# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 866
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17305 "2018-03-01T17:08:38Z")
If only we could take the Presidency away from obviously mentally ill people and worry about due process later. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17306 "2018-03-01T18:09:13Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Seconded. First point on which clarification would be helpful is: _“What the hell is CPM?”_ Trump and Hillary buy ads on, say, NBC Nightly News. They know they are going to get 500k eyeballs watching and, because of campaign finance laws, have to spend the same amount of money… let’s just say $10k for 30-seconds. This comes to 50 eyeballs for every dollar, or 200 dollars for a thousand eyeballs or… 200/CPM. On Facebook, campaign laws don’t matter. So, using the above numbers, while Hillary was still being charged $200/CPM for those 1,000 eyeballs Parscale said FB was charging Trump $2/CPM or even $1/CPM. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17307 "2018-03-01T18:14:38Z")
Not to be confused with CP/CMS used to control the whole damn system. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17308 "2018-03-01T18:33:50Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Obama never said to take the guns without regulation. Everyone believed he did. To be clear, Trump didn’t say he was going to take people’s guns away _without regulation_, he said that he advocates taking guns away from certain individuals without having a judge go through due process. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17309 "2018-03-01T19:16:36Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > If only we could take the Presidency away from obviously mentally ill people and worry about due process later. I’m stealing this. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17310 "2018-03-01T19:26:49Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > “Take the Guns First, Go Through Due Process Second” > > Imagine for one second Obama saying this. Or… Clinton Pelosi Harris Boxer Feinstein or ANYone But Dump will most likely flip flop again, and then excoriate his own flunkies. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17311 "2018-03-01T19:27:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Steve Mnuchin is heckled and booed at a public meeting at UCLA, and retracts permission for the university to release video of the meeting. > [https://www.wsj.com/articles/mnuchin-dogged-by-protesters-doesnt-want-video-posted-1519849427](https://www.wsj.com/articles/mnuchin-dogged-by-protesters-doesnt-want-video-posted-1519849427) Why the fuck would they need permission??? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17312 "2018-03-01T19:29:16Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/jared-kushner-apollo-citigroup-loans.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/jared-kushner-apollo-citigroup-loans.html) > > After White House meetings, “Apollo, the private equity firm, and Citigroup made large loans last year to the family real estate business of Jared Kushner, President Trump’s senior adviser.” … to the tune of $500M. That’s half a BILLION. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17313 "2018-03-01T19:33:56Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > … to the tune of $500M. > > That’s half a BILLION. What happens if he defaults? Between him and Manafort, they amassed amazing amounts of debt and had to be bailed out by some very unsavory characters. Normally you might put your kneecaps up for collateral, but in his case his SS protection may not allow that kind of thing. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17314 "2018-03-01T19:46:16Z")
In case anyone is looking for a Christmas gift for Clothy, I know what is at the top of his list: > **[Trumpy Bear Official Website](https://gettrumpybear.com/)** > > Show your patriotism with the new Trumpy Bear! That makes me fucking proud to be an American. MAGA!!! ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17315 "2018-03-01T19:58:00Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump and Hillary buy ads on, say, NBC Nightly News. They know they are going to get 500k eyeballs watching and, because of campaign finance laws, have to spend the same amount of money… let’s just say $10k for 30-seconds. This comes to 50 eyeballs for every dollar, or 200 dollars for a thousand eyeballs or… 200/CPM. > > On Facebook, campaign laws don’t matter. So, using the above numbers, while Hillary was still being charged $200/CPM for those 1,000 eyeballs Parscale said FB was charging Trump $2/CPM or even $1/CPM. I think it was actually the other way around: > **[Facebook Says Donald Trump Paid More for Online Ads Than Hillary Clinton](https://fortune.com/2018/02/27/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-facebook-ads/)** > > Attempts to refute claims by Trump's new campaign manager. "Donald Trump’s presidential campaign paid slightly more for ads on Facebook than Hillary Clinton, the social network said, refuting claims that it had tacitly helped get the Republican elected. Facebook executive Andrew Bosworth said Tuesday on Twitter that Trump’s campaign “paid slightly higher CPM prices on most days rather than lower as has been reported,” using industry jargon for cost per thousand impressions, the metric used to measure online ad rates." ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17316 "2018-03-01T20:11:12Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Why the fuck would they need permission??? That would the official release by the university. It is, naturally, all over YT already. The k-y is out of the tube, just try putting it back now. Welcome to the present. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17317 "2018-03-01T20:20:14Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > That would the official release by the university. It is, naturally, all over YT already. The k-y is out of the tube,\*\* just try putting it back now\*\*. Welcome to the present. Isn’t that what K-Y is for? :d&r: ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17318 "2018-03-01T20:45:24Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > In case anyone is looking for a Christmas gift for Clothy, I know what is at the top of his list: > > [http://gettrumpybear.com/](http://gettrumpybear.com/) > > That makes me fucking proud to be an American. MAGA!!! I’ve given [one of these dolls](https://theofficialworldsgreatesttroll.com) to half a dozen friends & family already; reaction has been overwhelmingly positive. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17319 "2018-03-01T20:46:33Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > I think it was actually the other way around: > [Donald Trump Paid More for Facebook Ads Than Hillary Clinton, Facebook Says | Fortune](http://fortune.com/2018/02/27/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-facebook-ads/) > > "Donald Trump’s presidential campaign paid slightly more for ads on Facebook than Hillary Clinton, the social network said, refuting claims that it had tacitly helped get the Republican elected. > > Facebook executive Andrew Bosworth said Tuesday on Twitter that Trump’s campaign “paid slightly higher CPM prices on most days rather than lower as has been reported,” using industry jargon for cost per thousand impressions, the metric used to measure online ad rates." I’m merely quoting the guy who bought the ads and is now Trump’s 2020 campaign manager. What can I say? I stand by my source. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17320 "2018-03-01T20:48:37Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > In case anyone is looking for a Christmas gift for Clothy, I know what is at the top of his list: > > [http://gettrumpybear.com/](http://gettrumpybear.com/) > > That makes me fucking proud to be an American. MAGA!!! Og help me, I can’t tell if that’s serious or a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17321 "2018-03-01T20:52:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Steve Mnuchin is heckled and booed at a public meeting at UCLA, and retracts permission for the university to release video of the meeting. > [https://www.wsj.com/articles/mnuchin-dogged-by-protesters-doesnt-want-video-posted-1519849427](https://www.wsj.com/articles/mnuchin-dogged-by-protesters-doesnt-want-video-posted-1519849427) > [@SteveG1](#): > > Why the fuck would they need permission??? I’m still not clear on being able to retract permission for the video to be released, but from what I’ve seen online, it’s obvious _why_ he wouldn’t want it released: he comes off like a douche and the cops look like hired goons. It doesn't look any better once out in the hall either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf8GIJFb6SA ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17322 "2018-03-01T20:54:06Z")
Ben Carson has canceled his $31,000 dining room. I now wonder if the whistle blower will get her job back. > **[Ben Carson says he wants to cancel $31,000 dining room furniture order | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics/carson-dining-room-canceled/index.html?CNNPolitics=Tw)** > > Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is requesting that the order for a $31,000 dining set be canceled ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17323 "2018-03-01T21:15:28Z")
[You won’t have Pufnstuf McMaster to kick around for much longer.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-preparing-mcmaster-exit-early-next-month-n852371?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17324 "2018-03-01T21:19:27Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [You won’t have Pufnstuf McMaster to kick around for much longer.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-preparing-mcmaster-exit-early-next-month-n852371?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma) > [@](#): > > third national security adviser is the auto industry executive Stephen Biegun [sarcasm] at least he’s qualified [/sarcasm] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=865) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=867)