# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1741 "2017-02-28T23:31:47Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > Inorite? > You’d think they’d get along a LOT better with the Leninist in the WH. > You’d think they’d be more enamored of a PotUS who likes the Russians. > > What kind of Marxists are these guys anyway? What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state – Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1742 "2017-03-01T03:57:34Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > It’s cute how the Marxist Media and Thier useful idiots get worked up about a 50year old woman obviously getting her legs out of the way of people in a very crowded small room, while snapping a picture. > > Completely ignoring Bill Clinton’s sexual assaults and cigar probing of an intern while getting oral sex in that very room > > Well they have to do SOMETHING to distract everyone from the fact that trump met with HBCU leaders and they didn’t protest him, in fact they look like theyre having a great time. > > they might even get something accomplished. HORRORS!!! Wait, Bill Clinton is still sexually assaulting women in the oval office? Does Pres. Trump know about this? If you’re talking about stuff from a couple decades ago, as I suspect, well, what does any of that have to do with now? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1743 "2017-03-01T04:20:00Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Wait, Bill Clinton is still sexually assaulting women in the oval office? Does Pres. Trump know about this? > > If you’re talking about stuff from a couple decades ago, as I suspect, well, what does any of that have to do with now? “Heh heh heh, I made them reply to me. Fap fap fap fap fap fap.” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1744 "2017-03-01T05:09:55Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Frankly, this sounds like pretty trivial stuff, the same level of petty pissant complaints that were floating around during the Obama and Bush43 administrations. > > Further, the smaller picture in the article shows Conway leaning forward in her kneeling position to take a cellphone picture of the event, so I gather she chose the position for a good angle and her seeming earlier indifference to the gathering is her just setting her phone up to take pictures. > > I agree that she shouldn’t be wearing her shoes on the couch, but big deal - it’s a working government office, not a museum exhibit. Except for the President’s own desk, the furniture isn’t of historical or cultural significance. I can’t get too worked up about it either. I didn’t care when GW Bush put his feet up on the Resolute Desk. I didn’t care when Obama did the same thing. I don’t care if Conway put her shoes on the couch. I have about 11,000 more significant things to be worried about from this administration. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1745 "2017-03-01T06:03:41Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > … > I NEVER ignore those. > I think about those assaults daily… So, Horndog Bill invites Arafat into the Oval Office, gonna buddy him up some, get him relaxed. He opens his desk and take out a polished cigar humidor, opens it and offers him his pick. Yassir hesitates awkwardly and asks… “Do you have any of those cigars that come in a wrapper?” So, maybe next time, you laugh a little. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1746 "2017-03-01T15:26:11Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > What kind of Marxists are these guys anyway? Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo, Chico… ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1747 "2017-03-01T16:36:01Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I can’t get too worked up about it either. I didn’t care when GW Bush put his feet up on the Resolute Desk. I didn’t care when Obama did the same thing. I don’t care if Conway put her shoes on the couch. I have about 11,000 more significant things to be worried about from this administration. To me, the feet-on-the-couch thing was trivial. The more significant part was that she seemed to be checking Facebook while the room was full of dignitaries. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1748 "2017-03-01T16:51:10Z")
My problem with her (and this pic seals it) is that she is a 50 year old woman trying (and failing) to make everyone think she’s 23. And I say this confidently speaking as a 51 year old man who’s trying to make everyone think he’s still 35. ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1749 "2017-03-01T17:05:03Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > To me, the feet-on-the-couch thing was trivial. The more significant part was that she seemed to be checking Facebook while the room was full of dignitaries. She was likely just setting the camera function on her phone. What I take from this is that official photographer is another one of those positions that the Trump White House hasn’t been able to fill yet. I hear Pete Souza might be looking for work. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1750 "2017-03-01T17:32:17Z")
> [@Bookkeeper](#): > > She was likely just setting the camera function on her phone. What I take from this is that official photographer is another one of those positions that the Trump White House hasn’t been able to fill yet. I hear Pete Souza might be looking for work. Excellent point – a friendly photographer would never have released this picture, or even taken it. We might be seeing @rogueWHphotog at work. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1751 "2017-03-01T17:35:21Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > To me, the feet-on-the-couch thing was trivial. The more significant part was that she seemed to be checking Facebook while the room was full of dignitaries. She looks like she’s posting her status as something along the lines of: “Like, OMG, I’m stuck with all these, like, old boring egghead guys, and it like totally sucks…” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1752 "2017-03-01T18:41:37Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > And I say this confidently speaking as a 51 year old man who’s trying to make everyone think he’s still 35. In May, I will be 29. For the 15th straight year. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1753 "2017-03-01T18:50:58Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > In May, I will be 29. For the 15th straight year. > Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Gah! Sorry about the Tapatalk sig. I cleared my Tapatalk data to resolve some issues, and I forgot to go back and change the defaults. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1754 "2017-03-01T19:13:58Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > She looks like she’s posting her status as something along the lines of: “Like, OMG, I’m stuck with all these, like, old boring egghead guys, and it like totally sucks…” Someone reminded the administration that Black History Month was almost over. Last week, they sent Trump to the National Museum of African American History. He made the astounding discovery that slavery was “bad, very bad.” DeVos made her brainless remark about how black colleges reflected “school choice.” (She & the Prez are both proof that those expensive private schools aren’t perfect.) And little blondie surfed on her phone instead of pretending to care… ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1755 "2017-03-01T20:17:38Z")
For me it’s two-fold: she has her pointy heeled shoes wedged into the couch and she has her legs spread while wearing a dress. But those are minor etiquette blunders compared to all the other indiscretions and downright scary political things this team has and is pulling. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1756 "2017-03-01T20:49:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Dunno. Maybe, I guess, but really? Not a big hairy, but I don’t personally recall them being any better or any worse than anybody else. [This piece](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/03/the_white_house_press_corps_is_acting_like_domesticated_animals.html) touches on some of the issues related to White House secrecy under Obama: > [@](#): > > Yet the past eight years have witnessed a dramatic decrease in reporters’ ability to get executive branch employees to say anything, thanks in part to flacks fluttering over every conversation to make sure that nothing substantial gets said. Reporters long used to supporting themselves on the already thin gruel of regular press briefings found that even in these executive branch–sponsored pseudo-events, there was less and less real information to be had; even the identities of the speakers were no longer fair game. Based on my analysis of briefings listed on the State Department’s website, in the first few months of the Obama administration, fewer than 20 percent of all State Department briefings were “on background”—with the speakers’ names off limits. By 2014, more than 90 percent of those briefings were on background. > > At the same time, Obama relentlessly hunted down leaks to the press with an alacrity not seen in the capital since Nixon’s plumbers gooned their way into the Watergate. And it was truly Nixonian for the Obama administration to order a monthslong covert operation to gather phone records from AP offices. Obama seemed determined, at all costs, to prevent any stray, unapproved bit of information from falling into the hands of the press. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1757 "2017-03-02T04:56:43Z")
Nancy Pelosi calls for Jeff Sessions to resign for lying before Congress during his confirmation hearings, about his contacts with Russia. > **[Pelosi calls for Sessions’s resignation](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/321938-pelosi-calls-on-sessions-to-resign/)** > > House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to immediately resign following revelations that he spoke to the Russian ambassador to the United States durin… ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1758 "2017-03-02T05:20:49Z")
This doesn’t seem to belong anywhere else. And I know it’s very minor in the grand scheme of things. But, every time I see Sebastian Gorka, I think, “That guy has an enormous head.” Look at him! His head is two or three sizes too big for his body. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1759 "2017-03-02T05:27:56Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Nancy Pelosi calls for Jeff Sessions to resign for lying before Congress during his confirmation hearings, about his contacts with Russia. > [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/321938-pelosi-calls-on-sessions-to-resign](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/321938-pelosi-calls-on-sessions-to-resign) This is no biggie. Sessions is a Republican. And it’s pretty much a given now that the Republican leadership, from the president, to his advisors, to his cabinet are all working for the direct benefit of Russia’s interests. So it’s really just business as usual at this point. Republican voters seem just fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1760 "2017-03-02T05:44:32Z")
Further Russian revelations involving our Clown-in-Chief. This just drives home further what I’ve said all along: President Donald J. Trump is a traitor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=87) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=89)