# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 880
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17585 "2018-03-07T18:41:37Z")
OK. I thought (a) Pit, so (b) Rule of Funny, and © it was NOT intended to distort the meaning of the quote in a deliberately snide, misleading, and obnoxious way. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17586 "2018-03-07T19:46:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Is that the one with the gorgon? No, it is the one where Atlas and Shiva hold down Sun WuKong (the monkey king) so that Thor can destroy him with Mjolnir, then the three of them fight over his magic staff, but Klickitat sends the great firebird to steal it away from them. ---
**Author:** ![DirtyHippy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtyhippy/32/107_2.png) [@DirtyHippy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirtyHippy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17587 "2018-03-07T21:27:44Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Uh, you know those cites are from the Onion. While usually on point; the Onion is satirical. > > Related: Why can’t the idiots resign. Perry - head of some agency he can’t remember. Calron - unqualified in every respect except for racial cover. Betsy - inadvertantly gave herself a failing grade in education. I’m fully aware of what the Onion is. But you’re right, they are often on point. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17588 "2018-03-07T21:49:12Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > It may have sunk in that he had better decide to put his Russian creditors in the “going to pay” column so that he can keep his diet confined to the upper rows of the periodic table, hence his need to scramble more desperately than usual to come up with the cash. The Russians are definitely in the “I can’t fuck these guys” column… Because they play for keeps. Sergei Skripa and Daughter Attacked With Nerve Agent in Salisbury, England The head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Mark Rowley, has announced that the Russian double-agent and his daugher were attacked with a “nerve agent” on Sunday. They are currently in critical condition in hospital. They were found slumped on a bench in the cathedral town of Salisbury in western England. A policeman who was first on the scene is also in hospital in a serious condition… [INDENT]Mr Rowley would not confirm the exact substance identified. He said: “Having established that a nerve agent is the cause of the symptoms leading us to treat this as attempted murder, I can also confirm that we believe that the two people who became unwell were targeted specifically.” … The use of a nerve agent rather than polonium suggests that the origin of the poison was being muddied, giving Putin a degree of “deniability”. Skripa’s son died in unclear circumstances in Russia. The attack on him has also led to the opposition calling for an inquiry into 14 other suspicious deaths in the UK. Russia has denied any involvement, but the case has put renewed scrutiny on a string of deaths in the UK in the past two decades. The chair of the home affairs select committee, Yvette Cooper MP, wrote to Home Secretary Amber Rudd on Tuesday calling for a review of 14 other cases. Those cases were variously found to have been heart attacks, suicides, accidents, and deaths by natural causes, but some allege that they amount to a pattern of state-sponsored murder on British streets. …[/indent] ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17589 "2018-03-07T21:51:03Z")
Stoneman Douglas students are not happy with Betsy DeVos’s visit today. [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377181-devos-visit-draws-criticism-from-parkland-students](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377181-devos-visit-draws-criticism-from-parkland-students)’ ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17590 "2018-03-07T22:03:27Z")
[How does this White House get things done, ever?](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-staffers-terminated-reassigned-security-clearance-issues/story?id=53584931) I’m beginning to think this country doesn’t need a President. Here we are, still living our lives like normal while the Executive branch runs around like a chicken with its head chopped off. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17591 "2018-03-07T22:05:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Stoneman Douglas students are not happy with Betsy DeVos’s visit today. > [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377181-devos-visit-draws-criticism-from-parkland-students](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377181-devos-visit-draws-criticism-from-parkland-students)’ _“Let’s be clear. I think to say ‘arming teachers’ is an oversimplification and a mischaracterization, really,” DeVos told reporters. “The concept is for those schools and those communities that opt to do this … is to have people who are expert in being able to defend, and having lots and lots of training in order to do so.”_ Hmm. Remind me again who her brother is. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17592 "2018-03-07T22:10:48Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > _“Let’s be clear. I think to say ‘arming teachers’ is an oversimplification and a mischaracterization, really,” DeVos told reporters. “The concept is for those schools and those communities that opt to do this … is to have people who are expert in being able to defend, and having lots and lots of training in order to do so.”_ > > Hmm. Remind me again who her brother is. Exactly. If these uppity kids don’t shut up, he’ll have them taken out. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17593 "2018-03-07T22:46:40Z")
> [@](#): > > “The concept is for those schools and those communities that opt to do this … is to have people who are expert in being able to defend, and having lots and lots of training in order to do so.” All while trying to break their union and keep them as underpaid as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17594 "2018-03-07T23:10:37Z")
Brilliant - Attorney General Beady-Eyed Little Fucker wants to sue California over how they’re handling immigration. > **[Trump's Justice Department sues California over immigration enforcement](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-s-justice-department-sues-california-over-immigration-enforcement-n854331)** > > The DOJ on Tuesday filed a lawsuit against California challenging three recently passed laws about immigration enforcement in that state. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17595 "2018-03-07T23:15:37Z")
Swedish appliance manufacturer has put on hold their plans to build a new plant in Tennessee following Trump’s tariff announcement. > **[Electrolux Halts Tennessee Project After Tariff Announcement](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2018-03-03/electrolux-halts-tennessee-project-after-tariff-announcement)** > > Electrolux says its plans for a $250 million plant expansion in Tennessee are on hold, and the Swedish appliance maker is citing President Donald Trump's tariff announcement as the reason. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17596 "2018-03-07T23:32:12Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Swedish appliance manufacturer has put on hold their plans to build a new plant in Tennessee following Trump’s tariff announcement. > [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2018-03-03/electrolux-halts-tennessee-project-after-tariff-announcement](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2018-03-03/electrolux-halts-tennessee-project-after-tariff-announcement) That is a hell of an imbroglio. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17597 "2018-03-08T03:30:07Z")
Electrolux plant? Wow, that sucks. (someone was going to do it) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17598 "2018-03-08T04:11:19Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Electrolux plant? Wow, that sucks. > (someone was going to do it) Seems appropriate, given the intellectual vacuum in which the current administration operates. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17599 "2018-03-08T05:09:58Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Hmm. Remind me again who her brother is. He is a guy who may have [‘misled’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-2016-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish-back-channel-to-kremlin/2018/03/07/b6a5fb8c-224b-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.d20a6360bbc6) congress. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17600 "2018-03-08T05:46:52Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > _“Let’s be clear. I think to say ‘arming teachers’ is an oversimplification and a mischaracterization, really,” DeVos told reporters. “The concept is for those schools and those communities that opt to do this … is to have people who are expert in being able to defend, and having lots and lots of training in order to do so.”_ > > Hmm. Remind me again who her brother is. It’s worth reading the [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince) page on Erik Prince. You’ll see a lot of familiar names, and the connections he’s established over his time start to fall in place with things that are happening now. I note he was an intern to Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and also provided private security for UAE. And of course, he founded Blackwater. ETA: Looks like he won’t be providing that private security force for Trump, either. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17601 "2018-03-08T05:58:47Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s worth reading the [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince) page on Erik Prince. You’ll see a lot of familiar names, and the connections he’s established over his time start to fall in place with things that are happening now. I note he was an intern to Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and also provided private security for UAE. > > And of course, he founded Blackwater. > > ETA: Looks like he won’t be providing that private security force for Trump, either. I recall Erik Prince and Blackwater being in the news during Dubyah’s administration. Small world, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17602 "2018-03-08T06:16:43Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I recall Erik Prince and Blackwater being in the news during Dubyah’s administration. Small world, isn’t it? Got into a fair amount of trouble with it, too, with the [Nisour Square Massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_Square_massacre). Small world, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17603 "2018-03-08T06:22:53Z")
And what is [del]Blackwater[/del] I mean [del]Xe[/del] goddamit, what is that company called? Should be a great one for school security with a name like that. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17604 "2018-03-08T07:07:31Z")
Thing about Eric Prince that always got me: he’s got one shitty haircut considering his wealth. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=879) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=881)