# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17605 "2018-03-08T11:30:02Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> I wonder what President David Dennison has planned for today?

I wish some reporter would shout out a question to him, prefaced by “Mister Dennison!”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17606 "2018-03-08T13:17:28Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> And what is [del]Blackwater[/del] I mean [del]Xe[/del] goddamit, what is that company called? Should be a great one for school security with a name like that.

Funny you should say that. It’s now [Academi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi).

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17607 "2018-03-08T14:04:21Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Thing about Eric Prince that always got me: he’s got one shitty haircut considering his wealth.

His barber calls it the “H.R. Haldeman Special.”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17608 "2018-03-08T17:33:44Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> “And I don’t need anything. Except this ashtray. And that’s all I need…”

“…and my [del]dog Shithead[/del] son-in-law Jared…”

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17609 "2018-03-08T19:06:58Z")

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[Trump partied with Russian oligarchs at Vegas nightclub shut down over ‘lewd’ acts involving women and urine](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/trump-partied-russian-oligarchs-vegas-nightclub-shut-lewd-acts-involving-women-urine-report/):

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> A bombshell new report suggests Donald Trump consummated a deal to hold his Miss Universe pageant in Moscow while hobnobbing with Russian oligarchs at a Las Vegas nightclub later shut down over lewd performances involving women and urine.
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> The future president invited himself to dinner June 15, 2013, with Aras and Emin Agalarov and British publicist Rob Goldstone while presiding over the Miss USA contest his company owned at the time, reported Michael Isikoff and David Corn.

You think you won’t be surprised at the depths any more…

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17610 "2018-03-08T19:11:15Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> And what is [del]Blackwater[/del] I mean [del]Xe[/del] goddamit, what is that company called? Should be a great one for school security with a name like that.

It’s now Academi.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17611 "2018-03-08T19:16:13Z")

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Trump is reportedly pissed at Sarah Huckster for tacitly admitting that there was a hush money deal with Stormy Daniels.

> **[Trump Mad at Sanders Over Stormy Daniels: Report](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-stormy-daniels-836472)**
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> Sarah Huckabee Sanders may have fueled the flames over the president's alleged affair with a porn star.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17612 "2018-03-08T19:22:14Z")

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“You’re my press secretary! You’re not supposed to tell them stuff!”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17613 "2018-03-08T19:45:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump is reportedly pissed at Sarah Huckster for tacitly admitting that there was a hush money deal with Stormy Daniels.  
> [Trump 'Very Unhappy' With Sarah Huckabee Sanders for Revealing Stormy Daniels Involvement: Report - Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-stormy-daniels-836472)

Well, tomorrow is [del]Firingday[/del] Friday.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17614 "2018-03-08T21:34:30Z")

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> [@Max\_Torque](#):
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> [Trump partied with Russian oligarchs at Vegas nightclub shut down over ‘lewd’ acts involving women and urine](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/trump-partied-russian-oligarchs-vegas-nightclub-shut-lewd-acts-involving-women-urine-report/):
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> You think you won’t be surprised at the depths any more…

I’m currently listening to the Embedded podcast that talks about Trump’s involvement with the Agalarovs (2/15/18).

I strongly recommend this podcast series to anyone wanting to learn very interesting details and background on Trump, Kushner and Bannon. It is very eye opening.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17615 "2018-03-09T01:20:32Z")

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Anyone care to argue against the notion that tonight’s announcement of (maybe by May or so) talks between North Korea and the US is much of anything other than an attempt to seize the narrative away from the Mueller investigation, White House staff turnover and Stormygate?

I’ll hang up and listen.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17616 "2018-03-09T01:25:49Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Anyone care to argue against the notion that tonight’s announcement of (maybe by May or so) talks between North Korea and the US is much of anything other than an attempt to seize the narrative away from the Mueller investigation, White House staff turnover and Stormygate?
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> I’ll hang up and listen.

Not me.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17617 "2018-03-09T01:56:33Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Anyone care to argue against the notion that tonight’s announcement of (maybe by May or so) talks between North Korea and the US is much of anything other than an attempt to seize the narrative away from the Mueller investigation, White House staff turnover and Stormygate?
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> I’ll hang up and listen.

It seems to have been initiated on the North Korean side, which suggests that Little Rocket Man has concluded that the Dotard’s troubles make him even more susceptible than usual to being distracted by shiny objects and ego-massaged into making a deal favorable to the North Korean regime.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17618 "2018-03-09T02:02:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump is reportedly pissed at Sarah Huckster for tacitly admitting that there was a hush money deal with Stormy Daniels.  
> [Trump 'Very Unhappy' With Sarah Huckabee Sanders for Revealing Stormy Daniels Involvement: Report - Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-stormy-daniels-836472)

Oh Goodie !!! I wonder if he called her fat or made any other disparaging comments about her appearance. Because you know he’s thinking it.

But she’ll stay. Because there are very few jobs where the only skill set required is the amoral stamina required to lie constantly to the entire world about matters of life and death.

I wonder what kind of parent she is, and if she would excuse her children if they acted like Trump. Or if her son can dodge punishment by telling on his sister for something unrelated.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17619 "2018-03-09T02:07:17Z")

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Does North Korea still kidnap people? Like that South Korean film director who was abducted and forced to make films for Kim Jong-il.

A North Korean version of _The Apprentice_ may be our best way out of this mess…

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17620 "2018-03-09T02:17:20Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Anyone care to argue against the notion that tonight’s announcement of (maybe by May or so) talks between North Korea and the US is much of anything other than an attempt to seize the narrative away from the Mueller investigation, White House staff turnover and Stormygate?
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> I’ll hang up and listen.

It makes me think that Russia made a deal with North Korea. Kim Jong-un’s end of it is meeting with Trump and making concessions on his nuclear arsenal. Putin’s stooge in the White House is hailed as the Great Dealmaker and wins re-election.

I think I’m getting paranoid.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17621 "2018-03-09T02:23:35Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> It makes me think that Russia made a deal with North Korea. Kim Jong-un’s end of it is meeting with Trump and making concessions on his nuclear arsenal. Putin’s stooge in the White House is hailed as the Great Dealmaker and wins re-election.
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> I think I’m getting paranoid.

From last June:[As China pulls trade from North Korea, Russia gets cozy with Kim Jong In.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/05/russia-boosts-trade-north-korea-china-cuts/102389824/)

From last December:  
[Russia says North Korea is ready for direct nuclear talks with the US.](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/08/russia-says-north-korea-ready-direct-nuclear-talks-us/)

More links between Russia and North Korea contained in [this Twitter thread.](https://twitter.com/TheGlare_TM/status/971905512920027136)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17622 "2018-03-09T03:51:03Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Anyone care to argue against the notion that tonight’s announcement of (maybe by May or so) talks between North Korea and the US is much of anything other than an attempt to seize the narrative away from the Mueller investigation, White House staff turnover and Stormygate?
> 
> I’ll hang up and listen.

North Korea has been setting this up all along, beginning with the Olympics outreach to the South Korean president. Right now is a tough time for North Korea: they’re in their harvest period and they’ve been reduced to using human shit as fertilizer for the last few years, and international sanctions are having an impact. The increase in the frequency of North Korea army defectors is probably a telling sign of potential unrest in the agency that Kim actually cares about the most. So there’s no question that years of pressure - not just Trump but Obama’s too - are having a toll and Kim wants temporary relief.

But I suspect that the “offer” is not going to be something that the US finds favorable in the long run. I’d be surprised if North Korea were to go completely without nukes - at minimum, they’ll have the capacity to nuclearize in short order going forward. I think Kim Jung Un senses an opportunity to a) gain some respect by having direct talks with the US; b) wants security assurances in the form of a reduced US role in Asia (or at least South Korea).

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17623 "2018-03-09T03:52:23Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> It makes me think that Russia made a deal with North Korea. Kim Jong-un’s end of it is meeting with Trump and making concessions on his nuclear arsenal. Putin’s stooge in the White House is hailed as the Great Dealmaker and wins re-election.
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> I think I’m getting paranoid.

Russia didn’t make the deal with North Korea; North Korea wanted direct talks with Donald Trump because it a) buys time, and b) gets North Korea some measure of respect.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17624 "2018-03-09T04:30:15Z")

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Too bad I can’t find a video link anywhere, so I’m glad I caught on PBS tonight Paul Ryan holding forth in Atlanta on not being too crazy about tariffs. Onstage next to him is a large square of wood, passing for a podium, with a little Home Depot sign on it and a mic sticking out the top. Behind him is a beautiful gleaming stainless steel new barbeque set, and a pretty nice, skookum-looking tool case, almost as tall as Ryan. Unfortunately it was a close-up, so I was deprived of what other fine products there might have been onstage. Sure makes for one dandy screenshot on my tv, but admittedly the surroundings might’ve detracted somewhat from the gravity of the proceedings.

Terroriffs (terror + tariffs)

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