# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 883
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17645 "2018-03-09T17:28:41Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Well, this is annoying. Let’s face facts: when Trump goes to Korea, anything short of actually crapping on the conference table will be hailed – mostly by Trump himself – as a diplomatic triumph. And rightly so, I guess. (It’s a sign of how fucked up this year is, that a reduction in the chance of nuclear Armageddon pisses me off). > > But then I remembered that Nixon actually achieved a legitimate diplomatic breakthrough with China…and it didn’t save his sorry ass. Whatever Trump achieves with North Korea won’t begin to undo the damage he’s created elsewhere. The chickens will eventually come home to roost. These things take time. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17646 "2018-03-09T18:59:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Well, he’s president for life, OK? And he was able to do that. And that’s great. Maybe we’ll give it a shot someday.” oh hell no! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17647 "2018-03-09T19:01:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, ‘I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.’ You didn’t say _which_ Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17648 "2018-03-09T19:07:02Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > You didn’t say _which_ Tuesday. Hey, that’s _my_ dodge! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17649 "2018-03-09T19:13:30Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > And throw him a parade. Oh my god, imagine the extravaganza Kim could mount if he really goes all out. North Korea is the master of mass card stunts. We’ll see lots of pictures of Trump made out of card stock, with thousands of dancing girls. And no, not the kinds of dancing girls Trump is familiar with. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17650 "2018-03-09T19:18:59Z")
Is the Shitgibbon actually talking about going to Pyongyang himself? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17651 "2018-03-09T19:50:36Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > You didn’t say _which_ Tuesday. Second Tuesday of next week. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17652 "2018-03-09T19:57:10Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Is the Shitgibbon actually talking about going to Pyongyang himself? Yup! In the flesh! (But not likely to be Pyongyang. The location is TBD.) Although in today’s briefing SHS is talking about concrete and verifiable pre-conditions…so let the weaseling begin. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17653 "2018-03-09T20:09:51Z")
Remember all the crap some folks flung at Obama just for talking to Iran? Neither do they. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17654 "2018-03-09T20:10:43Z")
Let the backpedaling begin. "The president will not have the meeting without seeing concrete steps and concrete actions take place by North Korea.” > ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17655 "2018-03-09T20:20:20Z")
Yeah, Sarah Huckabuck stated the North Koreans have already pledged to denuclearize the Korean peninsula. When asked to clarify, she doubled down on the belief that Kim is going to denuclearize with no preconditions. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17656 "2018-03-09T20:37:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Yeah, Sarah Huckabuck stated the North Koreans have already pledged to denuclearize the Korean peninsula. When asked to clarify, she doubled down on the belief that Kim is going to denuclearize with no preconditions. Kim’s nuclear capabilities are at least 50% of the reason why he’s agreed to hold talks in the first place; the international sanctions, China’s growing frustration with Kim, and other factors are probably a considerable portion of that remaining 50%. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17657 "2018-03-09T20:52:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Yeah, Sarah Huckabuck stated the North Koreans have already pledged to denuclearize the Korean peninsula. When asked to clarify, she doubled down on the belief that Kim is going to denuclearize with no preconditions. If he’s going to denuclearize with no preconditions, then there’s no need for negotiations. What’s the point of the meeting then? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17658 "2018-03-09T21:27:03Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Yeah, Sarah Huckabuck stated the North Koreans have already pledged to denuclearize the Korean peninsula. When asked to clarify, she doubled down on the belief that Kim is going to denuclearize with no preconditions. Is there any way you could link to this that doesn’t involve me watching for very long? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17659 "2018-03-09T21:43:03Z")
The White House put out a montage of video games that cause mass murder, or … something. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0C_IBSuXIoo/maxresdefault.jpg "Violence in Video Games") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_IBSuXIoo) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17660 "2018-03-09T21:46:34Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Is there any way you could link to this that doesn’t involve me watching for very long? No links yet. It was today’s press briefing. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17661 "2018-03-09T21:52:00Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > Are you new here? It’s what he does. Trump built a political career selling opinion as fact. It’s particularly disturbing when people I mostly agree with do it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17662 "2018-03-09T22:30:57Z")
North Korea’s official news agency tweeted, "Donald Trump humbles himself by seeking talks with Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un. Request under consideration." > I think it’s satire. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17663 "2018-03-09T23:01:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The White House put out a montage of video games that cause mass murder, or … something. > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C\_IBSuXIoo&sns=tw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_IBSuXIoo&sns=tw) What the…? That was just disgusting, couldn’t watch it through. And people really play these ? For fun ? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17664 "2018-03-09T23:25:45Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > What the…? That was just disgusting, couldn’t watch it through. And people really play these ? For fun ? :eek: Aw, now I feel like I’m missing out, with not being in a great position to watch videos. Though honestly I’m probably just the sort of gamer you’re grossed out by - I play games where you attack people and they fall into pieces. Like arms and legs and heads falling all over. I have one where you do this as Batman - the only game so violent that it has _Batman_ casually killing people. Travelers Tales Lego Games [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=882) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=884)