# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17785 "2018-03-13T16:14:23Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Russia Investigation Summary.](https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_russia_investigation_one_page_summary.pdf)
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> After a year they find nothing but a bunch of bullshit - mostly relating to Intel and operational failures of the previous administration. Maybe it will be remembered as the most expensive, time-consuming bit of non-revelatory nonsense ever purchased by the American taxpayer.
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> And appropriately, let’s see if we can push this thread right along with it to a new record here. It’s up well over 17k - have at it, fuckasses!

They have a looooong way to go to surpass the record set by the Benghazi/Email investigations. It may be generations before we see that level of congressional time /money waste again…if we’re lucky.

And has been stated repeatedly: it’s easy to not find anything if you’re not really looking.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17786 "2018-03-13T16:16:38Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Russia Investigation Summary.](https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_russia_investigation_one_page_summary.pdf)
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> After a year they find nothing but a bunch of bullshit - mostly relating to Intel and operational failures of the previous administration. Maybe it will be remembered as the most expensive, time-consuming bit of non-revelatory nonsense ever purchased by the American taxpayer.

I’ll hazard a wild guess that the various Benghazi investigations still “win” on that front.

As for this thread, If you’d like to see it slowed or stopped, do your part and call any Republican who represents your city, county, district or state and demand they not be stupid.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17787 "2018-03-13T16:18:10Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> So let me see if I got this straight; The President is planning to take the unprecedented step of meeting with the leader of North Korea in a couple of months without an Ambassador to South Korea in place and several of the top experts in the field retiring or leaving shortly, and this is the time to fire your Secretary of State?
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> Clusterfuck in the making, indeed.

Just to second your opinion:  
Trump wants an important, even critical, meeting with Kim Jong-un and he now has no Secretary of State and no ambassador to South Korea.

What a clusterfuck.

Trump has just about kicked out 50% of his high level staff and appointments in just 14 months. It’s incomprehensible. One begins to wonder how in the heck Trump can dress himself and brush is own teeth.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17788 "2018-03-13T16:19:14Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Russia Investigation Summary.](https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_russia_investigation_one_page_summary.pdf)
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> After a year they find nothing but a bunch of bullshit - mostly relating to Intel and operational failures of the previous administration. Maybe it will be remembered as the most expensive, time-consuming bit of non-revelatory nonsense ever purchased by the American taxpayer.
> 
> And appropriately, let’s see if we can push this thread right along with it to a new record here. It’s up well over 17k - have at it, fuckasses!

If, by some miracle, Trump is not actually guilty of sucking up to the Russians, he would still be the most fucked up, incompetent, unqualified, disgusting person to every hold high office in this formally great nation.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17789 "2018-03-13T16:21:07Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Russia Investigation Summary.](https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_russia_investigation_one_page_summary.pdf)

Ignoring BeenJammin himself, I find this statement rather curious, “How anti-Trump research made its way from Russian sources to the Clinton campaign.”

I’m somewhat doubtful that they were able to track down Steele’s sources - though, if they have, I’d like to read about them - so I suspect that this is a rather misleadingly worded way of saying, “We confirmed that Steele has an ongoing arrangement with Russian sources in return for information, with a general hit-rate of about 80% in accuracy, as previously reported in all of the media.”

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17790 "2018-03-13T16:22:42Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Russia Investigation Summary.](https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_russia_investigation_one_page_summary.pdf)
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> After a year they find nothing but a bunch of bullshit - mostly relating to Intel and operational failures of the previous administration. Maybe it will be remembered as the most expensive, time-consuming bit of non-revelatory nonsense ever purchased by the American taxpayer.
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> And appropriately, let’s see if we can push this thread right along with it to a new record here. It’s up well over 17k - have at it, fuckasses!

Obvious troll is obvious

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**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17791 "2018-03-13T16:23:44Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Trump has just about kicked out 50% of his high level staff and appointments in just 14 months. It’s incomprehensible.

On the contrary - it makes perfect sense. What group of high-level politicians or politico-wannabes is not salted with nefarious cocksuckers at every turn? Take any such bunch of insensitive pricks with the party label of your choice and start an investigation. See if you don’t turn up some bank fraud or or other white-collar crime.

Idiots, the lot. At least Trump keeps weeding them out.

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**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17792 "2018-03-13T16:26:29Z")

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> [@Greathouse](#):
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> Obvious troll is obvious

You got that right! :smack:

You must be smaaaaaart. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17793 "2018-03-13T16:32:25Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Nice!

Got it from some Twitter wag, so he (?) deserves the compliments.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17794 "2018-03-13T16:36:09Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> You got that right! :smack:
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> You must be smaaaaaart. :rolleyes:

Admitting your problem is the first step to overcoming your problem.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17795 "2018-03-13T16:49:14Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> On the contrary - it makes perfect sense. What group of high-level politicians or politico-wannabes is not salted with nefarious cocksuckers at every turn? Take any such bunch of insensitive pricks with the party label of your choice and start an investigation. See if you don’t turn up some bank fraud or or other white-collar crime.
> 
> Idiots, the lot. At least Trump keeps weeding them out.

HE’S THE ONE THAT APPOINTED THEM ALL IN THE FIRST PLACE!

How do you get credit for firing everyone that you hired yourself? I thought he said he would bring in the “best people”. When is that going to start then? All of his people so far are absolute shit.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17796 "2018-03-13T16:55:01Z")

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You’re gonna get tired of all that winning, folks.

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**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17797 "2018-03-13T16:56:35Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> How do you get credit for firing everyone that you hired yourself?

I guess it’s pretty stupid, if you actually believe he had any significant role in those appointments, apart from perfunctory briefings and paper-signings.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17798 "2018-03-13T16:58:35Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Ex-Exxon exec, Texan Rex, next ex-Sec!

Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Stealing this; thanks! 😛

ETA: On second thought, it’s even funnier if I give you credit!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17799 "2018-03-13T16:59:40Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> I guess it’s pretty stupid, if you actually believe he had any significant role in those appointments, apart from perfunctory briefings and paper-signings.

True, Trump is probably just doing what his handlers are telling him to do.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17800 "2018-03-13T17:02:09Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> I guess it’s pretty stupid, if you actually believe he had any significant role in those appointments, apart from perfunctory briefings and paper-signings.

So the president now has zero control over his own cabinet, advisors, press secretary, etc? Did the deep state hire all of his people for him?:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17801 "2018-03-13T17:04:48Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> So the president now has zero control over his own cabinet, advisors, press secretary, etc? Did the deep state hire all of his people for him?:rolleyes:

With Putin’s input.

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**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17802 "2018-03-13T17:06:45Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> > [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> > So let me see if I got this straight; The President is planning to take the unprecedented step of meeting with the leader of North Korea in a couple of months without an Ambassador to South Korea in place and several of the top experts in the field retiring or leaving shortly, and this is the time to fire your Secretary of State?
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> > Clusterfuck in the making, indeed.
> 
> And install a SoS who has been vocal about needing regime change in North Korea.

You know, we’ve talked about what happens if the leader of North Korea tries to kidnap the Leader of America during this meeting.

Have we considered the opposite yet? What if this is just a ploy by the Trumpites to force regime change the old fashioned way?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17803 "2018-03-13T17:09:17Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Just to second your opinion:  
> Trump wants an important, even critical, meeting with Kim Jong-un and he now has no Secretary of State and no ambassador to South Korea.

Doesn’t need 'em. As he has repeatedly pointed out Trump is the best negotiator in the universe of all time, they would have just gotten in the way.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17804 "2018-03-13T17:10:09Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> When you gouge out your eyeballs, break your eardrums with icepicks, and put boxing gloves on your hands you won’t find anything, either.

Feel free to prove us wrong on this.

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