# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17825 "2018-03-13T19:46:41Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Are you talking about the Tilleson firing? Don’t forget that T-Man was fired the day after he disputed Sarah Huckster, and accepted the British finding that the Russian spy in London was poisoned on orders from Russia.

I didn’t forget it, because I didn’t know it. Ignorance fought, thank you.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17826 "2018-03-13T19:49:53Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> Maybe they plan to switch places (a la “Parent Trap”) and see if anyone notices… or if the level of crazy from both sides stays relatively the same so everyone just thinks it’s business as usual (for certain definitions of “usual”)?

If you didn’t think of the two of them singing “Let’s Get Together,” I don’t want to know you.

I think Kim should be the one with the guitar: [The Parent Trap Dancing GIF](https://gph.is/22qaGXO)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17827 "2018-03-13T19:53:13Z")

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Is anyone watching this idiot at the CA border site?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17828 "2018-03-13T19:53:44Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> Supposedly a significant reason for his election was that he was a (great) businessman, not a politician, thus he’d shake things up, do things differently, and make everything better simply because he was a Washington outsider. Maybe, _maybe_, this might have moved things in an overall positive direction, if we had actually elected a ‘true’ and truly successful businessman. Hasn’t Trump always ever headed up family-run businesses, not having to temper his decisions and behavior to answer to a board of directors, unlike (I’m assuming here) the vast majority of CEOs?

When I read **Bryan Ekers’** post that you quoted I was wondering for how long the well might now be poisoned for “businessman” candidates. “Remember the last time we elected someone without experience in managing government? We got Trump.” Said in the same tone as “Remember the last time you went running in the cold rain without a shirt? You got pneumonia.”

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17829 "2018-03-13T19:59:38Z")

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> [@Greathouse](#):
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> Obvious troll is obvious

> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> You got that right! :smack:
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> You must be smaaaaaart. :rolleyes:

Wai-wai-wait… you’re proud of being a troll? Or you just think everyone here is dense for not calling you on it before now.

Rereading the last few pages, it looks like the latter. If that’s so, please go somewhere else to practice your schtick.  
There are a lot of boards ‘n’ blogs ‘n’ youtube commenters who’d appreciate your act more than a board that claims to be fighting ignorance.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17830 "2018-03-13T20:05:18Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Is anyone watching this idiot at the CA border site?

Is he trying to bring fresh fruit across the line?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17831 "2018-03-13T20:11:08Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Is anyone watching this idiot at the CA border site?

CA= Canada? Or do you mean California? What idiot? _(Link, Lancelot…_)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17832 "2018-03-13T20:14:37Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Is he trying to bring fresh fruit across the line?

Those are his calves.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17833 "2018-03-13T20:19:00Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> CA= Canada? Or do you mean California? What idiot? _(Link, Lancelot…_)

Ahhh… finally [found the idiot.](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-arrives-california-border-wall-prototypes)

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17834 "2018-03-13T20:26:52Z")

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Maybe with the whole KJU thing, trump is hoping for his own Nobel peace prize. (After all, Obama has one.)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17835 "2018-03-13T20:40:16Z")

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linked already, but this, about the ICE spokesman that resigned, shows that it is the ones that one would call “top men” that do recognize the soul crushing administration they are working for and resigning.

> **[ICE spokesman resigns, citing fabrications by agency chief, Sessions about...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/13/ice-spokesman-resigns-over-false-statements-by-top-officials-about-calif-immigrant-arrests/?utm_term=.e4b8485002f5)**
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> "While we disagree with Mr. Schwab on this issue, we appreciate his service and wish him well,” ICE said in a statement after James Schwab resigned.

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> A spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has resigned over what he described as “false” and “misleading” statements made by Attorney General Jeff Sessions and ICE acting director Thomas D. Homan.
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> James Schwab worked out of the agency’s San Francisco office until he abruptly quit last week. He said he had been told to “deflect” questions about the Oakland, Calif., mayor’s interference with an ICE raid last month and to refer reporters to statements from Sessions and Homan that suggested that hundreds of “criminals” (“criminal aliens,” Homan called them) escaped capture in Northern California because the mayor tipped them off.
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> “I quit because I didn’t want to perpetuate misleading facts,” Schwab told the San Francisco Chronicle. “I asked them to change the information. I told them that the information was wrong, they asked me to deflect, and I didn’t agree with that. Then I took some time, and I quit.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17836 "2018-03-13T21:25:17Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Maybe with the whole KJU thing, trump is hoping for his own Nobel peace prize. (After all, Obama has one.)

I think you are exactly right.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17837 "2018-03-13T21:29:53Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Maybe with the whole KJU thing, trump is hoping for his own Nobel peace prize. (After all, Obama has one.)

Trump attack dog Seb Gorka says Obama should give his Nobel to Trump.

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/sebgorka/status/971950420263350272>

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17838 "2018-03-13T21:30:44Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Heck of a shitstorm today. Worse than the Nor’easter.

and… the Acting Administrator of NASA “Lightfoot” is out too. he announced his “retirement”. The replacement (Bridenstine) being considered by Trump is highly “qualified”, by being a climate denier and hater of LGBT (which is relevant to the position … how???)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17839 "2018-03-13T21:32:58Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Well, at least he finally stood up to Russia.

You mean Tillerson???

That is why he is gone. He sided with the British Prime Minister against Russia. Trump doesn’t like that.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17840 "2018-03-13T21:38:31Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> and… the Acting Administrator of NASA “Lightfoot” is out too. he announced his “retirement”. The replacement (Bridenstine) being considered by Trump is highly “qualified”, by being a climate denier and hater of LGBT (which is relevant to the position … how???)

Holy shit! This idiot of a clusterfuck just keeps getting worse. I wish Trump would just go to North Korea or Russia and not come back! And take all these idiots with him. YUCK!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17841 "2018-03-13T21:39:51Z")

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Just saw a newscrawl that said thump is moving Rick Perry over to Veteran’s Affairs. Couldn’t hear the sound. Anyone else see this?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17842 "2018-03-13T22:00:15Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Maybe with the whole KJU thing, trump is hoping for his own Nobel peace prize. (After all, Obama has one.)

He heard wrong though. He thinks it is the Nobel Piece Prize, and that he should be allowed to grab it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17843 "2018-03-13T22:43:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Just saw a newscrawl that said thump is moving Rick Perry over to Veteran’s Affairs. Couldn’t hear the sound. Anyone else see this?

I guess I didn’t imagine it.  
Reuters: [Trump considers Rick Perry for veterans affairs secretary: NYT](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-energy/trump-considers-rick-perry-for-veterans-affairs-secretary-nyt-idUSKCN1GP33W)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17844 "2018-03-13T22:49:24Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I guess I didn’t imagine it.  
> Reuters: [Trump considers Rick Perry for veterans affairs secretary: NYT](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-energy/trump-considers-rick-perry-for-veterans-affairs-secretary-nyt-idUSKCN1GP33W)

I was just about to link to that same 11-minutes-ago story. Nothing confirmed yet, but several news outlets are saying the same thing --that Perry is probably going to be subbed in for veterans affairs secretary David Shulkin.

Shulkin has been getting bad press for a while now, for corrupt practices. Trump won’t stand for graft if he’s not getting a cut, and apparently Shulkin hasn’t been sharing.

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