# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17845 "2018-03-13T22:51:09Z")

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It’s a sign of what a complete dumpster fire this administration is that [this](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/trump-floats-the-idea-of-creating-a-space-force-to-fight-wars-in-space.html) is only like the fifth-nuttiest thing that’s happened today;

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> “Space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea,” Trump told a an audience of service members at the Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. “We may even have a Space Force, develop another one, Space Force. We have the Air Force, we’ll have the Space Force.”  
> The president described how he’d originally coined the term as a joke, while discussing U.S. government spending and private investment in space. “I said, ‘maybe we need a new force, we’ll call it the Space Force,’ and I was not really serious. Then I said, ‘what a great idea,’ maybe we’ll have to do that,” Trump told the crowd of Marines.
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> “So think of that, Space Force,” Trump continued, “because we are spending a lot and we have a lot of private money coming in, tremendous. You saw what happened the other day, and tremendous success. From the very beginning, many of our astronauts have been soldiers and air men, coast guard men and marines. And our service members will be vital to ensuring America continues to lead the way into the stars.”

Someone tell Loser Donald that bone spurs aren’t a problem in zero gravity.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17846 "2018-03-13T22:58:22Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> Maybe they plan to switch places (a la “Parent Trap”) and see if anyone notices… or if the level of crazy from both sides stays relatively the same so everyone just thinks it’s business as usual (for certain definitions of “usual”)?

This 1:23-minute cold-open to last night’s _Late Show with Stephen Colbert_ is rather relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YnP4VNv41GE?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLiZxWe0ejyv-ZENGWVZ7yDFh8AUuWUAEL

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17847 "2018-03-13T23:25:14Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump attack dog Seb Gorka says Obama should give his Nobel to Trump.
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> [https://mobile.twitter.com/sebgorka/status/971950420263350272](https://mobile.twitter.com/sebgorka/status/971950420263350272)

The funniest thing about that tweet is the photo -Gorka apparently thinks that is a GOOD picture of Trump and a BAD one of Obama. :smack::smack:

The Obama picture is “angry Obama”, but it’s an OK “angry Obama” photo. He certainly doesn’t look wimpy. Trump looks like he’s wetting his pants. And enjoying it.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17848 "2018-03-14T00:22:55Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I guess I didn’t imagine it.  
> Reuters: [Trump considers Rick Perry for veterans affairs secretary: NYT](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-energy/trump-considers-rick-perry-for-veterans-affairs-secretary-nyt-idUSKCN1GP33W)

That saying about rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic just won’t stop running through my mind.

Bad thing is, the ship still sinks. And we’re all on it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17849 "2018-03-14T00:28:00Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Ex-Exxon exec, Texan Rex, next ex-Sec!

That’s pretty good. Add it to your portfolio when you interview for that headline-writing position at _Variety_.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17850 "2018-03-14T00:29:30Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Shulkin has been getting bad press for a while now, for corrupt practices. Trump won’t stand for graft if he’s not getting a cut, and apparently Shulkin hasn’t been sharing.

What happened to all the indignant screaming that Obama wasn’t doing enough to fix long wait times at VA hospitals, because he just hated Our Troops etc.? Then who did Trump put in charge but Obama’s #2 guy.

At least that shut \*\*adaher \*\*up about something.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17851 "2018-03-14T00:51:39Z")

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What’s the final body count today?

Tillerson  
John McEntee  
James Schwab (actually quit in disgust on Friday, but news came out today)  
Steve Goldstein  
Robert M. Lightfoot Jr.(retiring without a successor)

Not exactly a slow news day.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17852 "2018-03-14T00:58:02Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> That saying about rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic just won’t stop running through my mind.

You need a band playing _Nearer My God to Thee_. I suggest the latest incarnation of Iron Maiden.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17853 "2018-03-14T01:06:28Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> What happened to all the indignant screaming that Obama wasn’t doing enough to fix long wait times at VA hospitals, because he just hated Our Troops etc.? Then who did Trump put in charge but Obama’s #2 guy.

Trump likes troops that weren’t hospitalized.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17854 "2018-03-14T01:09:59Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> That’s pretty good. Add it to your portfolio when you interview for that headline-writing position at _Variety_.

Love to, but I got it off some Twitter wag.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17855 "2018-03-14T01:45:48Z")

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Trump proposes a military “space force” but it is not clear if he is joking. You can’t make this stuff up.

> **[Trump floats idea of ‘space force’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/03/13/trump-floats-idea-of-space-force/)**
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> Trump said he first conceived the idea as a joke. It's not clear if he is still joking.

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> “My new national strategy for space recognizes that space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air and sea,” Trump told the crowd of Marines. “We have the Air Force. We’ll have the space force.”
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> Initially, Trump explained, he’d proposed the idea as a joke. “Then I said, ‘What a great idea, maybe we’ll have to do that.’”
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> He did not specify Tuesday whether he was still joking.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17856 "2018-03-14T01:53:41Z")

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As **Smapti** posted, up in #17841.

I think there is this thing called the [Outer Space Treaty](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty) that would take a dim view of that.

But, fuck treaties. We don’t need no stinking treaties.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17857 "2018-03-14T01:59:02Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> But, fuck treaties. We don’t need no stinking treaties.

We made terrible treaties especially our Outer Space Treaties. Trump will rip it up and negotiate directly with the Martians and Venusians. Make Earth Great Again!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17858 "2018-03-14T02:03:43Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> We made terrible treaties especially our Outer Space Treaties. Trump will rip it up and negotiate directly with the Martians and Venusians. Make Earth Great Again!

Illegal aliens.  
Make Earth Terran Again! #META!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17859 "2018-03-14T02:21:39Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Trump should have “I have no fucking idea what I’m doing!” tattooed on his forehead.

So should everyone who voted for him.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17860 "2018-03-14T02:33:38Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> As **Smapti** posted, up in #17841.
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> I think there is this thing called the [Outer Space Treaty](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty) that would take a dim view of that.
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> But, fuck treaties. We don’t need no stinking treaties.

So, the Outer Space Treaty actually has nothing to do with this idea… but it’s still a dumb idea.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17861 "2018-03-14T02:50:47Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> So, the Outer Space Treaty actually has nothing to do with this idea… but it’s still a dumb idea.

It does, though. It prohibits weapons testing and military maneuvers in space. That kind of makes any activities a “space force” might realistically engage in above 100km altitude and beyond a violation. The US is a party to the treaty.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17862 "2018-03-14T02:56:28Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Trump will rip it up and negotiate directly with the Martians and Venusians.

To nit pick, the proper term is Venerians.🙂

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17863 "2018-03-14T03:10:40Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> To nit pick, the proper term is Venerians.🙂

Trump’s lawyer negotiated a $130,000 treaty with the Venereal leader – Stormy Daniels.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17864 "2018-03-14T03:32:42Z")

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Now there’s a leader who probably could organize better clusterfucks…

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