# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 895
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17885 "2018-03-14T19:23:36Z")
He’s getting too old for this shit. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17886 "2018-03-14T19:27:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > So, it seems that Trump is pressuring Jeff Sessions to fire Andrew McCabe, 5 days prior to McCabe’s retirement, as to deny McCabe his 21-year pension: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/973970697490960386?s=19) I haven’t done further research iinto it, but according to the CNN story i saw on this an hour ago, the recommendation to fire McCabe is actually coming from the FBI’s own internal procedures and investigations. Trump hates McCabe, and i’m sure he’ll lean on Sessions, but this isn’t coming from Trump, according to the CNN reporter. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17887 "2018-03-14T19:41:59Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I haven’t done further research iinto it, but according to the CNN story i saw on this an hour ago, the recommendation to fire McCabe is actually coming from the FBI’s own internal procedures and investigations. Trump hates McCabe, and i’m sure he’ll lean on Sessions, but this isn’t coming from Trump, according to the CNN reporter. I saw that as well. It may be true, but you would think the time for addressing the internal recommendation is long past. It now looks like sheer political pettiness – but then, this administration has shown that they are completely indifferent to optics. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17888 "2018-03-14T19:44:15Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I haven’t done further research iinto it, but according to the CNN story i saw on this an hour ago, the recommendation to fire McCabe is actually coming from the FBI’s own internal procedures and investigations. Trump hates McCabe, and i’m sure he’ll lean on Sessions, but this isn’t coming from Trump, according to the CNN reporter. Lol. CNN guy needs to read Dotard’s Twitter feed: > “FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is racing the clock to retire with full benefits. 90 days to go?!!!” ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17889 "2018-03-14T22:08:17Z")
This has been posted a zillion times, but let me repost again: > [@](#): > > That suspicion was accelerated by the president’s words to the White House press corps before stepping aboard Marine One: > > “As soon as we get the facts straight, if we agree with them, we will condemn Russia or whoever it may be.” > > That is not support for Britain. It is the direct opposite. > > Britain and the United States share intelligence information fully, freely, and seamlessly. It’s inconceivable that the U.S. government has not already seen all the information that Theresa May saw before she rose in the House of Commons to accuse Russia. … the now-fired secretary of state and the U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom both endorsed May’s words. … Trump is rejecting the consensus view of the U.K. and U.S. intelligence communities about an act of Russian aggression—and, if his past behavior is any indication, preparing the way for his own determination to do nothing. > > It echoes the approach he took toward Russian intervention in the U.S. election to help elect him in 2016: Feign uncertainty about what is not uncertain in order to justify inaction. I’m at a loss. Can anyone name any historical regnant in either American continent, as repulsive as Trump or who rivals Trump for an entire list of detestable faults? And the Republicans adore him — voters, the top pundits and preachers, fervent “Christians.” All brought to us by liars and idiots who write “(D)” when an R does something they don’t like, who use Stephen Hawking as the go-to example of why U.S. healthcare is better than Britain’s. :smack: In GQ, we’re allowed to call mosquitoes malaria vectors, no? We’re allowed to condemn the Nazi Party, hurricanes, Wells Fargo Bank and the Boston Strangler. I _do_ understood the need for political correctness. Still, it stifles free discourse if we must pretend that Republicans are humanoid or have any whit of decency. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17890 "2018-03-14T22:31:58Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m at a loss. Can anyone name any historical regnant in either American continent, as repulsive as Trump or who rivals Trump for an entire list of detestable faults? Does that Augusto dude come kind of close? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17891 "2018-03-14T22:54:41Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m at a loss. Can anyone name any historical regnant in either American continent, as repulsive as Trump or who rivals Trump for an entire list of detestable faults? Baby Doc Duvalier comes to mind. (Papa Doc was a lot smarter than Trump.) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17892 "2018-03-14T23:08:01Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Does that Augusto dude come kind of close? Pinochet still has the lead. He had tens of thousands of people tortured and thousands killed. But Trump just appointed a torturer to lead the CIA, so Trump is clearly gunning for the title. Interestingly, Wiki informs me that one of the favorite tactics of Pinochet’s torturers was waterboarding. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17893 "2018-03-14T23:53:28Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > This has been posted a zillion times, but let me repost again: > I’m at a loss. Can anyone name any historical regnant in either American continent, as repulsive as Trump or who rivals Trump for an entire list of detestable faults? > > And the Republicans adore him — voters, the top pundits and preachers, fervent “Christians.” All brought to us by liars and idiots who write “(D)” when an R does something they don’t like, who use Stephen Hawking as the go-to example of why U.S. healthcare is better than Britain’s. :smack: > > In GQ, we’re allowed to call mosquitoes malaria vectors, no? We’re allowed to condemn the Nazi Party, hurricanes, Wells Fargo Bank and the Boston Strangler. I _do_ understood the need for political correctness. Still, it stifles free discourse if we must pretend that Republicans are humanoid or have any whit of decency. Every conservative “value” and “principle” has been laid bare. Evangelicals now stand for sexual abuse and “financially responsible” republicans embrace deficit spending. All along, sane people called bullshit. Now, the hypocrites are standing naked before the nation in all their simpering, cowardly glory. Behold the liars exposed. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17894 "2018-03-15T00:04:09Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > So, it seems that Trump is pressuring Jeff Sessions to fire Andrew McCabe, 5 days prior to McCabe’s retirement, as to deny McCabe his 21-year pension: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/973970697490960386?s=19) A pundit on CNN theorized Trump is hoping Sessions **won’t** fire McCabe so he has an excuse to fire Sessions. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17895 "2018-03-15T00:18:22Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > … Evangelicals now stand for sexual abuse … No, no, no, it is not “sexual abuse”. Women need to learn their place. After that Eve slut caused the downfall of all humankind, no harpy deserves any kind of respect. If a man is to trespass upon a woman’s person, she shall appeal to her husband for redress to her dignity, should he be so inclined to defend her. Should she not have a husband, it is to her shame to have failed to find a man willing to let her honor him. This whole “sexual abuse” nonsense is heathen drivelings. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17896 "2018-03-15T00:22:14Z")
Fair and balanced Fox News is reporting a possible cabinet “bloodbath” by Friday. McMaster is a goner for sure but Trump may want to cull the herd in one fell swoop. [McMaster, Shulkin and Kelly could be next to go in White House ‘bloodbath,’ sources say](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/mcmaster-shulkin-and-kelly-could-be-next-to-go-in-white-house-bloodbath-sources-say.html) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17897 "2018-03-15T00:32:49Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Unfortunately, this is not just another offhand, stupid thing Trump made up as he went along. It appears to be his next move in response to Russia trying to flip-the-script with Reagan’s whole “Strategic Defense Initiative” (Star Wars) and [all the weapons “concepts” they announced](https://www.polygraph.info/a/putin-new-missile-nuclear-florida-us/29081265.html) and [have supposedly been testing](https://www.polygraph.info/a/putin-says-russia-can-develop-nuclear-powered-missile/29081273.html). **It would seem both nations want to instigate the other into a military spending war.** > … You can’t be a war profiteer without a war. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17898 "2018-03-15T00:38:27Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Fair and balanced Fox News is reporting a possible cabinet “bloodbath” by Friday. McMaster is a goner for sure but Trump may want to cull the herd in one fell swoop. > > [McMaster, Shulkin and Kelly could be next to go in White House ‘bloodbath,’ sources say](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/mcmaster-shulkin-and-kelly-could-be-next-to-go-in-white-house-bloodbath-sources-say.html) Trump has referred to the Cabinet meeting room as ‘the studio.’ [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368311-trump-welcomes-media-to-cabinet-meeting-welcome-back-to-the-studio](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368311-trump-welcomes-media-to-cabinet-meeting-welcome-back-to-the-studio) What he’s picturing is a group of good-looking, smiling people who all treat him with great deference, and consistently provide telegenic Cabinet meetings full of praise for Trump. What he’s tired of is a bunch of bozos who grab headlines with their dining-set-ordering and private-jet-traveling and posing-with-new-currency-sheets and all the other shenanigans that take away attention from HIM. Those losers fail to understand that the purpose of the Cabinet is to make him look good and feel good. The new Cabinet will be a lot better. A _lot_. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17899 "2018-03-15T00:58:44Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > What he’s picturing is a group of good-looking, smiling people who all treat him with great deference, and consistently provide telegenic Cabinet meetings full of praise for Trump. I know what you’re saying although McMaster’s likely replacement, [John Bolton](https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/12/17091772/john-bolton-trump-national-security-adviser-war-iran-north-korea), is not exactly a Brad Pitt lookalike. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17900 "2018-03-15T00:59:29Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Every conservative “value” and “principle” has been laid bare. Evangelicals now stand for sexual abuse They’ve always stood for sexual abuse. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17901 "2018-03-15T01:14:20Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > They’ve always stood for sexual abuse. Frequently, they have to do so “widely.” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17902 "2018-03-15T01:26:17Z")
Sometimes lying down. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17903 "2018-03-15T01:42:58Z")
Emails confirm the esteemed Doctor HUD did, in fact, pick out his $30,000 office dining set…with the gracious help of his wife. > **[Carson was involved in $31,000 furniture purchase, emails show](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/14/carson-involved-expensive-furniture-purchase-417326?lo=ap_d1)** > > A cache of emails obtained by the advocacy group American Oversight show a HUD employee referring to “print outs of the furniture Secretary and Mrs. Carson picked out.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17904 "2018-03-15T03:12:51Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Fair and balanced Fox News is reporting a possible cabinet “bloodbath” by Friday. McMaster is a goner for sure but Trump may want to cull the herd in one fell swoop. > > [McMaster, Shulkin and Kelly could be next to go in White House ‘bloodbath,’ sources say](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/mcmaster-shulkin-and-kelly-could-be-next-to-go-in-white-house-bloodbath-sources-say.html) Trump may have reached the point where his new paradigm is “I’m the M-Fing President of the United States and I don’t have to listen to SHIT! Even you, Vladimir! Hear me? None of it, so fuck all of y’all!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=894) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=896)