# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17905 "2018-03-15T03:26:31Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump may have reached the point where his new paradigm is “I’m the M-Fing President of the United States and I don’t have to listen to SHIT! Even you, Vladimir! Hear me? None of it, so fuck all of y’all!”

Let’s not get crazy. Trump has been and always will be Putin’s puppet. Since Trump had no qualms about banging Stormy Daniels and propositioning other porn stars, there is no reason to believe that he refused the Russian hookers that were offered for his Moscow hotel room. Putin has the whole hotel room episode on hi-def video ready to be released if Trump steps out of line.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17906 "2018-03-15T03:34:05Z")

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^Yep. Just the other day, I saw one of those Internet slideshows titled _Putin’s most expensive possessions_. Since it required “click to see next page” and took forever to load here, I didn’t bother to go through it. I still wonder, though, where Trump appeared on that list.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17907 "2018-03-15T03:46:39Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Let’s not get crazy. Trump has been and always will be Putin’s puppet. Since Trump had no qualms about banging Stormy Daniels and propositioning other porn stars, there is no reason to believe that he refused the Russian hookers that were offered for his Moscow hotel room. Putin has the whole hotel room episode on hi-def video ready to be released if Trump steps out of line.

Trump: “Eh, they know I banged Stormy and I’m still President. Bring it on, Vlad! They really don’t care!”

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17908 "2018-03-15T03:57:19Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Let’s not get crazy. Trump has been and always will be Putin’s puppet. Since Trump had no qualms about banging Stormy Daniels and propositioning other porn stars, there is no reason to believe that he refused the Russian hookers that were offered for his Moscow hotel room. Putin has the whole hotel room episode on hi-def video ready to be released if Trump steps out of line.

“Donald! Putin’s on the line… he says that he’s in favor of strict US gun control. No, he says he doesn’t know the NRA’s phone number.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17909 "2018-03-15T04:10:19Z")

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But, seriously… what happens when Dotard thinks Putin is no longer his loyal friend? What happens when the hold, if it exists, Putin has on Donald wanes?

That might be the real impact this Stormy news will have on DJT: “I’ve survived another sex scandal, what do I care about the piss tape?”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17910 "2018-03-15T04:50:37Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> But, seriously… what happens when Dotard thinks Putin is no longer his loyal friend? What happens when the hold, if it exists, Putin has on Donald wanes?
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> That might be the real impact this Stormy news will have on DJT: “I’ve survived another sex scandal, what do I care about the piss tape?”

Yes, there’s a problem with threatening to trash Trump’s reputation; it’s already pretty low.

However I don’t think Putin’s goal was to control the American government. Let’s face it, Trump is too incompetent to make a good tool. What Putin wanted was a weak and confused American government that isn’t capable of effectively countering Russia. Trump’s delivered that. And if it ever looks like Trump is pulling his act together and might stand up to Russia, Putin can release the tapes and shut down the Trump administration with a major sex scandal.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17911 "2018-03-15T05:06:18Z")

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_ **May** _?

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17912 "2018-03-15T05:15:35Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Let’s not get crazy. Trump has been and always will be Putin’s puppet. Since Trump had no qualms about banging Stormy Daniels and propositioning other porn stars, there is no reason to believe that he refused the Russian hookers that were offered for his Moscow hotel room. Putin has the whole hotel room episode on hi-def video ready to be released if Trump steps out of line.

I’m betting that if Putin has this “loaded gun” he’s already realized that it is loaded with blanks. What use is blackmail material if neither Trump nor his supporters care at all?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17913 "2018-03-15T05:57:23Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> And the Republicans adore him — voters, the top pundits and preachers, fervent “Christians.” All brought to us by liars and idiots who write “(D)” when an R does something they don’t like, who use Stephen Hawking as the go-to example of why U.S. healthcare is better than Britain’s. :smack:

Speaking of Hawking - Rep. Briscoe Cain (R-TX), [come on down!](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/texas-republican-mocks-stephen-hawking-death-gets-obliterated-colleagues/)

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> “Stephen Hawking now knows the truth about how the universe was actually made,” Rep. Briscoe Cain tweeted.
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> “While many see him as one of the greatest public intellectuals of the last century, and no one disputes that he was brilliant, the fact remains that God exists,” Rep. Cain claimed. “My tweet was to show the gravity of the Gospel and what happens when we die, namely, that we all will one day meet the Creator of the universe face to face.”
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> “Stephen Hawking was a vocal atheist, who advocated against and openly mocked God,” he argued.

Man, he must be a _blast_ at funerals.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17914 "2018-03-15T08:13:54Z")

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> [@Fugazi](#):
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> I’m betting that if Putin has this “loaded gun” he’s already realized that it is loaded with blanks. What use is blackmail material if neither Trump nor his supporters care at all?

It’s one thing to hear Trump is cheating on his wife, it’s another to see a humiliating video played on an endless loop on CNN. Stormy said he likes to be spanked so maybe he likes to be pissed on too. Imagine a naked, fat, bald (hair messed up) Trump with tiny hands and tiny other thing on full display getting spanked and pissed on. Once you see it, you won’t be able to unsee it. It would damage his brand and repetition as low as they are already.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17915 "2018-03-15T10:04:58Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Imagine a naked, fat, bald (hair messed up) Trump with tiny hands and tiny other thing on full display getting spanked and pissed on.

Shame on you for planting that mental image.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17916 "2018-03-15T12:11:09Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Man, he must be a _blast_ at funerals.

Not all, but a large contingent of American Christian fundies are gleeful at the thought that not only will they be in heaven while the Godless heathens are not, they’ll get ringside seats to point and laugh at the latters’ eternal torture.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17917 "2018-03-15T12:32:41Z")

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As an Assistant (to the) Minister, I’d just like to point one thing out to those “Fundies”:

That is seriously fucked up. Your politics and your faith are making you bend your brain in ways no human should.  
Get therapy, in this life. Maybe from an Atheist.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17918 "2018-03-15T12:34:17Z")

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> [@Fugazi](#):
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> I’m betting that if Putin has this “loaded gun” he’s already realized that it is loaded with blanks. What use is blackmail material if neither Trump nor his supporters care at all?

I fully believe the Russians have a video. I have heard that some American intelligence agents have seen it - but they couldn’t make a positive identification of the man involved.

Is the video real? Maybe. Maybe not. The Russians did set up a circumstance that makes the theory that they have a video plausible. Trump stayed in that hotel. Someone allegedly offered to send up 5 women -via Schiller- and Schiller claims he refused. Maybe that’s true. Maybe not. Maybe Trump got tweaked that Schiller spoke for him and overrode his request. Maybe not. Maybe 5 full-bladdered hookers showed up at his suite despite the refusal. Maybe not.

But this is Trump and Putin. The truth doesn’t matter. Because Russia has set up this entire scenario to make the idea that this tape exists possible. If they have a video that may be faked but maybe not, it is still compromising material.

Russia has done this before. By this, I mean “released a clandestinely filmed sex tape that the star participant claimed was a fake. And Russia’s response was “Maybe it’s him. Maybe not. It kind of looks like him, though.”

So I think they’ll leak 😃 the tape at some point. And this is why the Trump Administration is being stupid and short-sighted by ignoring the continuing Russia threat to our political system. Because these Stupid Watergate players are too dumb to see that Russia didn’t get their money’s worth when they decided to promote Trump. So they might start playing for the other team. By dropping a pee tape in October, possibly.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17919 "2018-03-15T12:44:18Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And if it ever looks like Trump is pulling his act together and might stand up to Russia, Putin can release the tapes and shut down the Trump administration with a major sex scandal.

Why do you think another sex scandal would shut down this administration?

The GOP and his base are literally standing by the guy through TREASON. They’ve ignored sex scandals about Trump before and are ignoring the current one.  
Why would another matter?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17920 "2018-03-15T12:47:48Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Emails confirm the esteemed Doctor HUD did, in fact, pick out his $30,000 office dining set…with the gracious help of his wife.
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> [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/14/carson-involved-expensive-furniture-purchase-417326?lo=ap\_d1](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/14/carson-involved-expensive-furniture-purchase-417326?lo=ap_d1)

The sheer pettiness of these people is almost amusing.

Gaddafi used his control of puny Libya to amass a fortune fifty times larger than Trump’s. Even the Duvalier family of impoverished Haiti was about as rich as the Trumps. Stalin, Mao, the man with the moustache — they all succeeded in having profound effects. Even GWB-Cheney made many billions for their partners at Carlyle Group or Halliburton.

But the Trump Administration — “greatest bestest ever” — is content to steal plane rides or dining sets from taxpayers. Trump seems happy just that he can jack up prices at Mar-a-Lago and have top White House aides go on TV to pimp Ivanka’s made-in-Bangladesh shoes.

I’m sure many American billionaires will become _many_ billions richer due to Trump’s policies, but the Orange Buffoon himself seems content to overcharge the Secret Service and prowl around Korea hoping Kim Jung-un will lend him a teenager to rape. So pathetic.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17921 "2018-03-15T13:05:47Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Speaking of Hawking - Rep. Briscoe Cain (R-TX), [come on down!](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/texas-republican-mocks-stephen-hawking-death-gets-obliterated-colleagues/)
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> Man, he must be a _blast_ at funerals.

My God.  
Any deity worth worshipping would not hold my lack of belief against me in the balance of what good I may have done during my life.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17922 "2018-03-15T13:08:14Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> So they might start playing for the other team.

But not _too_ much. In this case a grainy inconclusive video would be excellent for their strategy since it would cause even more discord than a clear one.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17923 "2018-03-15T13:31:27Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> It’s one thing to hear Trump is cheating on his wife, it’s another to see a …

Jesus. Do you need help with how to use SPOILER tag?

😃

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17924 "2018-03-15T13:48:47Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Jesus. Do you need help with how to use SPOILER tag?
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> 😃

Sorry, I was trying to illustrate how a sex tape could be a big deal but didn’t realize my verbal description needed an NC-17 rating. 🙂

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