# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18205 "2018-03-21T00:49:42Z")

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The stench has gotten too deep for others as well. The only statewide electable Republican here in Hawaii called it quits.

In an editorial published early Monday in Honolulu Civil Beat, former Congressman Charles Djou said he will “abandon my party because I am unwilling to abandon my principles” and “can no longer stand with a Republican Party that is led by a man I firmly believe is taking the party of Lincoln in a direction I fundamentally disagree with, and a party that is unwilling to stand up to him.” [Djou, longtime 'loyalist,' stuns with decision to leave Republican party](http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37758242/i-abandon-my-party-djou-explains-in-editorial-why-hes-leaving-the-gop)

This follows the departure of the ousted Republican house minority leader, Beth Fukumoto. “Often cited as a rising star within the Republican Party, Fukumoto told NBC News previously that she felt attacked by her caucus because of her vocal stance against Trump and the extreme rhetoric coming from many Republican leaders.”[The Republican Party] seems to be punishing dissent, and when you have a political party, you need dialogue," Fukumoto said in an interview with NBC News in February."

“This election, I saw members of my party marginalizing and condemning minorities, ethnic or otherwise, and making demeaning comments towards women, …”

> **[Hawaii Republican leader Rep. Beth Fukumoto officially resigns from GOP](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/hawaii-republican-leader-rep-beth-fukumoto-officially-resigns-gop-n737341)**
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> Often cited as a rising star within the Republican Party, Rep. Beth Fukumoto says she will now seek membership in the Democratic Party.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18206 "2018-03-21T01:00:24Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Peters was as enthusiastic an Obama-basher](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7t2Z7x6EQM) as Fox ever saw. Even O’Reilly had to rein him in.
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> Was he ashamed then?

Could this be a case of the rats deserting a sinking ship? We can only hope.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18207 "2018-03-21T02:09:38Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Peters was as enthusiastic an Obama-basher](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7t2Z7x6EQM) as Fox ever saw. Even O’Reilly had to rein him in.
> 
> Was he ashamed then?

At some point, bullshitter gotta call bullshit.

FWIW, I actually found the “total pussy” comment entertaining. I actually loved (even kinda had a begrudging respect for) Ralph Peters. I could at least understand where he was coming from. If you had fought your nuts off in Nam or Fallujah, okay, I get it, Barack the fag Democrat might not be your guy (I’ve got a different set of opinions, but I get it, okay?!?!?!).

I love Ralphie Ralph – for being real. Unlike John “I sold my soul to the Devil” McLame from Arizona.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18208 "2018-03-21T02:32:07Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> At some point, bullshitter gotta call bullshit.
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> FWIW, I actually found the “total pussy” comment entertaining. I actually loved (even kinda had a begrudging respect for) Ralph Peters. I could at least understand where he was coming from. If you had fought your nuts off in Nam or Fallujah, okay, I get it, Barack the fag Democrat might not be your guy (I’ve got a different set of opinions, but I get it, okay?!?!?!).
> 
> I love Ralphie Ralph – for being real. Unlike John “I sold my soul to the Devil” McLame from Arizona.

God there’s a lot of dumb in that post

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18209 "2018-03-21T02:43:25Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Peters was as enthusiastic an Obama-basher](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7t2Z7x6EQM) as Fox ever saw. Even O’Reilly had to rein him in.
> 
> Was he ashamed then?

Probably not. Note that he characterizes his side of the aisle as “conservative,” when it’s clear that they’ve been increasingly radicalized reactionaries since the first Clinton administration (and arguably, beyond).

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18210 "2018-03-21T02:46:04Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> The stench has gotten too deep for others as well. The only statewide electable Republican here in Hawaii called it quits.

Yeah but Hawaii is a fag state – it’s not Nebraska, or Utah, or Alabama. A Republican in Hawaii is like a Democrat in Texas or Oklahoma. Like who cares?!

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18211 "2018-03-21T02:47:33Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> God there’s a lot of dumb in that post

Yeah well guess what, tard? I’ve called it, and you haven’t. I knew we were going to this low, shit-stain level when everyone else was calling me a chicken little. I don’t hear chicken little anymore. I hear crickets now.

Shut the fuck up. I’m the smartest poster on SDMB.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18212 "2018-03-21T02:57:17Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Yeah well guess what, tard? I’ve called it, and you haven’t. I knew we were going to this low, shit-stain level when everyone else was calling me a chicken little. I don’t hear chicken little anymore. I hear crickets now.
> 
> Shut the fuck up. I’m the smartest poster on SDMB.

> [@zoid](#):
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> God there’s a lot of dumb in that post

And…doubled-down.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18213 "2018-03-21T03:07:58Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Yeah well guess what, tard? I’ve called it, and you haven’t. I knew we were going to this low, shit-stain level when everyone else was calling me a chicken little. I don’t hear chicken little anymore. I hear crickets now.
> 
> Shut the fuck up. I’m the smartest poster on SDMB.

You are awfully smart. But no more posting while drunk, ok?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18214 "2018-03-21T03:19:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Shut the fuck up. I’m the smartest poster on SDMB.

After **Fotheringay-Phipps**.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18215 "2018-03-21T03:22:24Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Shut the fuck up. I’m the smartest poster on SDMB.

Yeah, just like the subject of this thread is the greatest ever. Zillions of people follow him on twitter. And he hires the best people. Only the best.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18216 "2018-03-21T03:30:35Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> God there’s a lot of dumb in that post

And a great vacuum of thought in yours.

> [@asahi](#):
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> Shut the fuck up. I’m the smartest poster on SDMB.

"I’ll tell you something, you’re a smart fella.

Don’t get too smart. I’m pretty smart myself."

(If you’re that smart, you’ll know where this is from)

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18217 "2018-03-21T03:38:18Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> "I’ll tell you something, you’re a smart fella.
> 
> Don’t get too smart. I’m pretty smart myself."
> 
> (If you’re that smart, you’ll know where this is from)

Like Alexander faced with the Gordian Knot, I googled it.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18218 "2018-03-21T03:49:51Z")

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Oh, no one’s stopped with the chicken little stuff. You’re still chicken little. And it sounds like you’re going a bit batty.

honestly you post so much, asahi, it’s pretty easy to say “I called it!” I dare say you’ve probably gotten as much wrong, and will ultimately get as much wrong, as right. But seriously, who gives a shit.

Get over yourself. I hope for your sake you’re drunk and not just losing your shit.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18219 "2018-03-21T04:22:39Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> And a great vacuum of thought in yours.
> 
> "I’ll tell you something, you’re a smart fella.
> 
> Don’t get too smart. I’m pretty smart myself."
> 
> (If you’re that smart, you’ll know where this is from)

Heh. Didn’t need Google. I love that scene. “A LEAK?! You call what’s been goin’ on 'round here a LEAK?! Son, the last time we had a leak like this, Noah built hisself a BOAT!”

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18220 "2018-03-21T04:52:17Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> After **Fotheringay-Phipps**.

No, that would be after me, at least according to some guy at a Chidope some fifteen years ago. Don’t remember his name, which is good because he’d be embarrassed to be reminded of saying anything so nonsensical.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18221 "2018-03-21T06:47:55Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Yeah but Hawaii is a fag state – it’s not Nebraska, or Utah, or Alabama. A Republican in Hawaii is like a Democrat in Texas or Oklahoma. Like who cares?!

Hey! Hey! Hey! Take it to the Pit ----- //looks around// never mind.

We can be conservative. The religious types put, “marriage is between an man and a woman” in our state constitution. Of course when the Supremos pulled that plug we took it out because we are nice conservatives.

Start blacklisting countries for entry based on religion and we were first to cry out, that’s unconstitutional. Upholding the constitution is the very core of conservative thinking (viewing the constitution as an originalist or as a living document would fill volumes here on the Dope).

We here would dump our Democratic overlords in a second if the GOP hadn’t gone completely batshit insane (Did you not view the Republican debates between the 16/17 loons?)

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18222 "2018-03-21T12:43:28Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Yeah well guess what, tard? I’ve called it, and you haven’t.

When you say everything, something is bound to be right.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18223 "2018-03-21T13:23:05Z")

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Instead of instructing him in all caps: “DO NOT CONGRATULATE PUTIN”, why oh why didn’t they tell him “DO NOT PLAY WITH HAIR DRYER IN BATHTUB”?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18224 "2018-03-21T14:43:25Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Instead of instructing him in all caps: “DO NOT CONGRATULATE PUTIN”, why oh why didn’t they tell him “DO NOT PLAY WITH HAIR DRYER IN BATHTUB”?

In fact, since he doesn’t even read his own briefing materials, it would have made more sense to not include the fact that the election had even been held, until, say, June…😃

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