# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18225 "2018-03-21T15:28:57Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Peters was as enthusiastic an Obama-basher](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7t2Z7x6EQM) as Fox ever saw. Even O’Reilly had to rein him in.
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> Was he ashamed then?

Exactly. It took him ten years to realize Faux was propaganda? How often in that time did that network mislabel a criminal R as a D? It was SOP for them. I recall them labeling Michelle Obama, Barack’s “baby mama” back in either 2007 or early 2008. How bad did they have to be before this guy saw the light?

I suppose better late than never, but holy cow! In this case attacking the FBI and US intelligence agencies was the trigger. Certainly not Faux’s continuous propaganda.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18226 "2018-03-21T15:43:24Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Instead of instructing him in all caps: “DO NOT CONGRATULATE PUTIN”, why oh why didn’t they tell him “DO NOT PLAY WITH HAIR DRYER IN BATHTUB”?

I’m going to steal this.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18227 "2018-03-21T18:00:30Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Exactly. It took him ten years to realize Faux was propaganda? How often in that time did that network mislabel a criminal R as a D? It was SOP for them. **I recall them labeling Michelle Obama, Barack’s “baby mama” back in either 2007 or early 2008**. How bad did they have to be before this guy saw the light?
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> I suppose better late than never, but holy cow! In this case attacking the FBI and US intelligence agencies was the trigger. Certainly not Faux’s continuous propaganda.

(bolding mine)

[In case anyone doubts](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/11/fox-news-calls-michelle-o_n_106655.html).

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18228 "2018-03-21T18:15:49Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> I’m going to steal this.

Go ahead, I stole it myself.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18229 "2018-03-21T18:49:07Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Yeah but Hawaii is a fag state

And its shit’s all retarded.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18230 "2018-03-21T20:42:53Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Go ahead, I stole it myself.

“If this is anyone but Steve Allen, you’re stealing my bit!”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18231 "2018-03-21T22:00:39Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> “If this is anyone but Steve Allen, you’re stealing my bit!”

Surely it will be a topic on the next episode of _A Meeting of Minds_

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18232 "2018-03-22T02:08:47Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Yeah, just like the subject of this thread is the greatest ever. Zillions of people follow him on twitter. And he hires the best people. Only the best.

His Twitter feed is better than a telenovela.

When do we change the title of this to “The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck From The Inauguration?”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18233 "2018-03-22T02:45:19Z")

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“Ex-Chief of C.I.A. Suggests Putin May Have Compromising Information on Trump”

> **[Ex-Chief of C.I.A. Suggests Putin May Have Compromising Information on Trump...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/us/politics/john-brennan-trump-putin.html)**
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> John O. Brennan said Russia may have compromising information on President Trump, setting off furious speculation about whether the former spy chief was basing that assertion on inside information.

Ya think?

> [@](#):
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> WASHINGTON — John O. Brennan, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, said Wednesday that he thought Russia may have some kind of compromising information on President Trump, setting off furious speculation about whether the former spy chief was basing that assertion on inside information.  
> …

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18234 "2018-03-22T03:02:23Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> “Ex-Chief of C.I.A. Suggests Putin May Have Compromising Information on Trump”

Objection! Presumes facts not in evidence. Would require Trump to have some sense of shame.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18235 "2018-03-22T03:11:57Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> Objection! Presumes facts not in evidence. Would require Trump to have some sense of shame.

Trump is absolutely desperate not to be shamed. It’s just that what would shame most people doesn’t with him. Sex with porn stars while your wife is nursing an infant? In Trump’s mind, that’s manly and virile.

But just look at his desperation that no one think he has small hands (penis), or that his inauguration crowd was much smaller than Obama’s, or that he got fewer votes than Hillary. Those things are all shameful to him.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18236 "2018-03-22T03:24:10Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> or that his inauguration crowd was much smaller than Obama’s,.

(Quoted post snipped)

I thought it was common knowledge that the black guy’s is always bigger than the white guy’s.

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18237 "2018-03-22T03:28:42Z")

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Not to mention how upset he acts whenever anyone dares to suggest he might not be an actual billionaire.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18238 "2018-03-22T03:36:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Sarah Huckabee says that the US government doesn’t get to decide how other countries operate.  
> [White House defends Trump's 'very good' Putin call](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-defends-trump-s-very-good-putin-call-n858381)  
> I guess Trump will stop talking about North Korea’s government any more.

I guess we never invaded Iraq then??? or Panama??? or "any other damn place you can think of at this point???

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18239 "2018-03-22T03:37:27Z")

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Odd. Breitbannon has [a story](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/20/report-kushner-secret-meetings-with-saudi-crown-prince-unsettled-intelligence-officials/) on The Kush and his close ties with the Saudi crown prince.  
_… Though Kushner later said he met with bin Salman to “brainstorm” various strategies, intelligence officials were reportedly nevertheless “troubled by a lack of information about the topics discussed” between the two. Just days after Kushner’s visit, bin Salman put many of his political rivals and prominent business executives under house arrest at the Ritz.… (Kushner) was never able to obtain a permanent security clearance because of some of his clandestine meetings with foreign government officials and financiers. The Post previously [reported](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kushners-overseas-contacts-raise-concerns-as-foreign-officials-seek-leverage/2018/02/27/16bbc052-18c3-11e8-942d-16a950029788_story.html?utm_term=.4dc7d1c157c5) that officials from at least four countries—China, the United Arab Emirates, Israel, and Mexico—have discussed various ways they can manipulate Kushner “by taking advantage of his complex business arrangements, financial difficulties and lack of foreign policy experience.”_

I mean, it seems a little odd that that site would turn on the WH in such a bigly way. Makes it seem like the Shitgibbon is getting fuckeder and fuckeder.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18240 "2018-03-22T03:43:23Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> The stench has gotten too deep for others as well. The only statewide electable Republican here in Hawaii called it quits.
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> In an editorial published early Monday in Honolulu Civil Beat, former Congressman Charles Djou said he will “abandon my party because I am unwilling to abandon my principles” and “can no longer stand with a Republican Party that is led by a man I firmly believe is taking the party of Lincoln in a direction I fundamentally disagree with, and a party that is unwilling to stand up to him.” [Djou, longtime 'loyalist,' stuns with decision to leave Republican party](http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37758242/i-abandon-my-party-djou-explains-in-editorial-why-hes-leaving-the-gop)
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> This follows the departure of the ousted Republican house minority leader, Beth Fukumoto. “Often cited as a rising star within the Republican Party, Fukumoto told NBC News previously that she felt attacked by her caucus because of her vocal stance against Trump and the extreme rhetoric coming from many Republican leaders.”[The Republican Party] seems to be punishing dissent, and when you have a political party, you need dialogue," Fukumoto said in an interview with NBC News in February."
> 
> “This election, I saw members of my party marginalizing and condemning minorities, ethnic or otherwise, and making demeaning comments towards women, …”
> 
> [Hawaii Republican Leader Rep. Beth Fukumoto Officially Resigns From GOP](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/hawaii-republican-leader-rep-beth-fukumoto-officially-resigns-gop-n737341)

Meanwhile in Illinois…

> **[Neo-Nazi Arthur Jones wins Republican nomination for Illinois congressional seat](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/21/neo-nazi-wins-republican-nomination-for-illinois-congressional-seat-.html)**
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> The state GOP has denounced Jones, who will now seek to unseat Democrat Dan Lipinski in the suburban Chicago district.

> [@](#):
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> Neo-Nazi Arthur Jones has won the Republican nomination for one of Illinois’ congressional seats.  
> Jones, a Holocaust denier and self-described former leader of the American Nazi Party, won the nomination by running as the sole candidate in Tuesday’s GOP primary for the 3rd District outside Chicago. …
> 
> The party, which was not able to find anyone to run against Jones in the primary, says it will try to get an independent to run in the race.
> 
> “Arthur Jones is not a real Republican — he is a Nazi whose disgusting, bigoted views have no place in our nation’s discourse,” Illinois GOP Chairman Tim Schneider said in a statement.

Ironic, since we already have had Nazis in the White House administration- Miller, Gorka, Bannon, etc etc etc, and in Tennessee, Repubs refused to denounce Nazis

> **[Tennessee legislators decline to pass resolution denouncing neo-Nazism](https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/03/14/tennessee-legislature-refuse-condemn-neo-nazi-white-nationalist/425083002/)**
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> The resolution was scheduled to be heard just days after a white nationalist demonstration outside the Parthenon in Nashville.

> [@](#):
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> Tennessee legislators decline to pass resolution denouncing neo-Nazism

and Trump himself refused to denounce Nazis in Charlottesville

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18241 "2018-03-22T04:00:36Z")

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I hate Illinois nazis.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18242 "2018-03-22T04:04:42Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I hate Illinois nazis.

Was that Jake, or was it Elwood?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18243 "2018-03-22T04:08:57Z")

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Jake!

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18244 "2018-03-22T04:53:36Z")

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[Forget Mexico, Trump Can’t Get Even Get Congress To Pay For His Wall](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-congress-wall_us_5ab31622e4b008c9e5f3ffd6)

The new budget has **zero dollars** designated for a concrete wall. The budget does include 33 miles of “new fencing or levees” which is a continuation of what we were doing pre-Trump.

Maybe Fox News will run stories showing a CGI concrete wall and Trump can pretend it exists.

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