# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18265 "2018-03-22T16:08:38Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Only caught a few episodes of that show, but holy guacamole what a delightful discussion with real meat on the bones it provided!

Steve Allen was a national treasure.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18266 "2018-03-22T16:16:21Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> [Forget Mexico, Trump Can’t Get Even Get Congress To Pay For His Wall](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-congress-wall_us_5ab31622e4b008c9e5f3ffd6)
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> The new budget has **zero dollars** designated for a concrete wall. The budget does include 33 miles of “new fencing or levees” which is a continuation of what we were doing pre-Trump.
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> Maybe Fox News will run stories showing a CGI concrete wall and Trump can pretend it exists.

How 'bout we just string up wire like an eruv and call it a wall?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18267 "2018-03-22T17:11:17Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> How 'bout we just string up wire like an eruv and call it a wall?

Mexico still won’t pay for it.

It’s the principle of the thing

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18268 "2018-03-22T17:15:06Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> They believe far worse things than that. Which is why we’re all in this cluster fuck.

A Cluster Fuck by the Fluster Cluck.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18269 "2018-03-22T17:27:05Z")

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Given this environment, should be “Flustered Cuck”.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18270 "2018-03-22T17:29:44Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The next time Kelly wants to get Trump to listen to what he’s being told, he ought to try doing it [this way](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYxYeKiVMAAEg3l.jpg). 🙂

Dunno. That still seems like reading.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18271 "2018-03-22T17:35:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The next time Kelly wants to get Trump to listen to what he’s being told, he ought to try doing it [this way](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYxYeKiVMAAEg3l.jpg). 🙂

> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> Dunno. That still seems like reading.

Maybe if one of the Curvy Couch Potatoes read it really slowly, accompanied by a bouncing golf ball caption pointer.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18272 "2018-03-22T18:00:37Z")

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LOL! We’re on path for record deficits, during strong economy growth, and this moron decides it’s the perfect time for a trade war - with our biggest banker.

Smart, like Fredo Corleone.

There’s no way we escape this administration without a massive recession, and I would consider ourselves lucky if it just ended with a recession and not an all-out depression.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18273 "2018-03-22T19:09:17Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> Objection! Presumes facts not in evidence. Would require Trump to have some sense of shame.

I was about to comment that maybe one of those Russian hookers was a boy, but I don’t think the Republicans even care about that any more.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18274 "2018-03-22T19:33:33Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> LOL! We’re on path for record deficits, during strong economy growth, and this moron decides it’s the perfect time for a trade war - with our biggest banker.
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> Smart, like Fredo Corleone.
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> There’s no way we escape this administration without a massive recession, and I would consider ourselves lucky if it just ended with a recession and not an all-out depression.

If anyone doesn’t know what asahi is on about: [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/politics/trump-will-hit-china-with-trade-measures-as-white-house-exempts-allies-from-tariffs.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/politics/trump-will-hit-china-with-trade-measures-as-white-house-exempts-allies-from-tariffs.html)

First paragraph:

> [@](#):
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> President Trump said he would impose about $60 billion worth of annual tariffs on Chinese imports on Thursday as the White House moved to punish China for what it says is a pattern of co-opting American technology and trade secrets and robbing companies of jobs and billions of dollars in revenue.

And one more just to sweeten the pot:

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> But coupled with the administration’s decision to exempt the European Union, South Korea, Brazil, Canada, and Mexico from the tariffs on cheap metals, the action demonstrates how much Mr. Trump’s nationalist trade agenda is really targeted at a single country: China.

So we’re going to have a trade war with one of the primary buyers of our debt, just after a record tax cut and a 1.3 trillion budget on the horizon.

Yep, put sharp businessmen in charge and they’ll make America great again.

We shall see.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18275 "2018-03-22T20:00:03Z")

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> [@nytimes](#):
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> President Trump said he would impose about $60 billion worth of annual tariffs on Chinese imports on Thursday as the White House moved to punish China for what it says is a pattern of co-opting American technology and trade secrets and robbing companies of jobs and billions of dollars in revenue.

And how exactly will this keep China from “co-opting American technology and trade secrets and robbing companies of jobs”?

What ever happened to the steel and aluminum tariffs?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18276 "2018-03-22T20:01:31Z")

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Dow drops 700 points after the China tariff announcement.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18277 "2018-03-22T20:04:56Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I was about to comment that maybe one of those Russian hookers was a boy, but I don’t think the Republicans even care about that any more.

Maybe if that boy used to be a girl.

ETA: But then, they’d only care what bathroom he uses.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18278 "2018-03-22T20:13:50Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> LOL! We’re on path for record deficits, during strong economy growth, and this moron decides it’s the perfect time for a trade war - with our biggest banker.
> 
> Smart, like Fredo Corleone.
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> There’s no way we escape this administration without a massive recession, and I would consider ourselves lucky if it just ended with a recession and not an all-out depression.

The difference is nobody was ever dumb enough to put Fredo in charge of anything important.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18279 "2018-03-22T20:39:56Z")

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MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle is reporting that there were only three people with Trump when he congratulated Putin: Kelly, McMaster, and McMaster aide Nadia Schadlow. Kelly is reportedly furious about whoever leaked the story of the phone call, so either it was McMaster or his aide, or Kelly did it himself to try to get rid of McMaster.

> <https://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/976643108002762752>

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18280 "2018-03-22T20:46:22Z")

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Interesting. Trump mentions tariffs and the stock market takes a shit. Wonder how many trump family members figured out that knowing when the POTardUS is about to make statements that will tank the market and act accordingly.

Then buy before other statements of his boost the same market. Presidential insider trading courtesy of a moron with the power to manipulate the market.

What a great short story that would make. Fictional, of course.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18281 "2018-03-22T20:53:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle is reporting that there were only three people with Trump when he congratulated Putin: Kelly, McMaster, and McMaster aide Nadia Schadlow.

And Putin. At least, he would have known that the congratulations took place. Wouldn’t have known what was on Trump’s briefing cards (I hope).

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18282 "2018-03-22T20:59:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle is reporting that there were only three people with Trump when he congratulated Putin: Kelly, McMaster, and McMaster aide Nadia Schadlow. Kelly is reportedly furious about whoever leaked the story of the phone call, so either it was McMaster or his aide, or Kelly did it himself to try to get rid of McMaster.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/976643108002762752)

I may be wrong, but I think the leak that Kelly was furious about wasn’t that Trump congratulated Putin, but that he had received a briefing telling him not to congratulate in CAPITAL LETTERS which he ignored.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18283 "2018-03-22T21:02:05Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle is reporting that there were only three people with Trump when he congratulated Putin: Kelly, McMaster, and McMaster aide Nadia Schadlow. Kelly is reportedly furious about whoever leaked the story of the phone call, so either it was McMaster or his aide, or Kelly did it himself to try to get rid of McMaster.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/976643108002762752)

Or anyone those people mentioned it to, including big-mouth Trump. Or any intelligence service that was listening.

Especially humorous to think it might be an intelligence agency leaking it to sow discord among the participants.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18284 "2018-03-22T21:22:47Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha ha hee heee heee heeee hoooo… oh my god, this is beautiful. A giant middle-finger from Congress to the White House.

And to the taxpayers. Over a billion dollars for 33 miles of fencing? Some contractor is getting very rich.

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