# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 919
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18365 "2018-03-23T15:46:04Z")
There is actually this comment on the tweet from someone - “Thank You! I knew you would come through! don’t pass this bill till the wall and the daca recipients are taken care of… #MAGA” I, I just don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18366 "2018-03-23T15:49:39Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > I think he’s just saying “I didn’t get what I want, and Dems didn’t get what they want either, so it’s a bad bill.” > > Obviously he’s just throwing a tantrum to get attention. He’ll sign it. **He doesn’t have the guts to shut down the government all by himself**. It may not be a matter of guts; it may be a matter of stupidity. He absolutely has the stupidity to shut down the government by himself, and he has the reptilian conscience to shamelessly blame it on everyone else but himself. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18367 "2018-03-23T15:50:21Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > And perhaps trying to bury some other news. Maybe all the bad press about his trade war. Or all the discussion about how bad John Bolton is. He distracts people from the horrible shit he does by doing something worse. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18368 "2018-03-23T15:53:33Z")
Vladimir says…impose tariffs. \>\>\>DEAL! Vladimir says…congratulate me on call \>\>\>OK Vladimir says…sleep with Russian hookers. \>\>\>WHERE? WHEN? HOW MUCH? Vladimir says Fire Mueller! \>\>\>DOIN IT NOW, VLAD! Veto omnibus bill! \>\>\>I’M ON IT Ah, ah…Vladimir didn’t say veto omnibus bill! ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18369 "2018-03-23T15:54:13Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > He distracts people from the horrible shit he does by doing something worse. Or to put it another way, he _does_ horrible things, and gets away with it by _saying_ worse things to distract the public. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18370 "2018-03-23T15:55:29Z")
You know, I’m actually inclined to go with the “he won’t sign it” side of the betting pool today. To me, in some weird way, it seems to make sense. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18371 "2018-03-23T15:55:30Z")
I know that this is the Trump Administration thread, but to be honest, the biggest story about this spending bill should really be the way that Republicans, who were so concerned by government spending during the Obama administration, are happy to spend like drunken sailors now that they can determine where that money goes. Discretionary spending under this budget will be, even after inflation is taken into account, higher than in any year during Obama’s second term. And this spending will all happen in an environment of significantly decreased revenues, resulting from the billionaire boondoggle tax cut. Some of the Republicans who were most outraged about all the spending happening on Obama’s watch are the same people who are actually in a position to do something about it now. Perhaps the biggest hypocrite is Paul Ryan. The title of this article says it all: [Please Enjoy These Videos of Paul Ryan Being Concerned About Debt and Overspending](https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/09/please-enjoy-these-videos-of-paul-ryan) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18372 "2018-03-23T16:03:57Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > “I am considering a VETO of the Omnibus Spending Bill based on the fact that the 800,000 plus DACA recipients have been totally abandoned by the Democrats” > > hahahahahaha! > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > This is either the most epic troll ever or… I don’t know what else it could be. > [@Slash1972](#): > > Yeah, I said the same exact thing. The President trolling the entire US of A. Classic. Remember, he’s proud of his ability to lie and thrives on creating conflict because conflict is entertaining to watch. What sort of person would lie to be entertained by the conflict he creates? A troll. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18373 "2018-03-23T16:09:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Vladimir says…impose tariffs. > > \>\>\>DEAL! > > Vladimir says…congratulate me on call > > \>\>\>OK > > Vladimir says…sleep with Russian hookers. > > \>\>\>WHERE? WHEN? HOW MUCH? > > Vladimir says Fire Mueller! > > \>\>\>DOIN IT NOW, VLAD! > > Veto omnibus bill! > > \>\>\>I’M ON IT > > Ah, ah…Vladimir didn’t say veto omnibus bill! Maybe [he did](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/politics/government-funding-russia-punishment/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18374 "2018-03-23T16:12:04Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Maybe [he did](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/politics/government-funding-russia-punishment/index.html) I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18375 "2018-03-23T16:12:36Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Remember, he’s proud of his ability to lie and thrives on creating conflict because conflict is entertaining to watch. What sort of person would lie to be entertained by the conflict he creates? > > A troll. And millions will keep slurping up his diarrhea milkshakes as long as they’re republican flavored. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18376 "2018-03-23T16:15:52Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > And millions will keep slurping up his diarrhea milkshakes as long as they’re republican flavored. While proclaiming that the “real” troll was [not](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20857406&postcount=54) elected. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18377 "2018-03-23T16:22:54Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Remember, he’s proud of his ability to lie and thrives on creating conflict because conflict is entertaining to watch. What sort of person would lie to be entertained by the conflict he creates? > > A troll. The goodwill of Congress and the donor class isn’t infinite. I really wonder when they’ll decide that he’s causing them more headaches than his unreliable pen is worth. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18378 "2018-03-23T16:24:01Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > … He’ll sign it. He doesn’t have the guts to shut down the government all by himself. What he lacks in guts he makes up for with incredible pig-headed stupidity. ETA: What asahi said, too. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18379 "2018-03-23T17:11:35Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > What he lacks in guts he makes up for with incredible pig-headed stupidity. > > ETA: What asahi said, too. CNN bulletin. He’s going to sign it. (Couldn’t link, but should be easy to find.) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18380 "2018-03-23T17:33:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > CNN bulletin. He’s going to sign it. (Couldn’t link, but should be easy to find.) Well, it’s a good thing I don’t make bets, then, it seems. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18381 "2018-03-23T17:39:11Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > CNN bulletin. He’s going to sign it. (Couldn’t link, but should be easy to find.) But he’s “never going to sign another bill like this again.” Main running list of updates: [Trump signs the spending bill: Live updates](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-congress-spending-bill/index.html) Specific update referenced: [Trump: "I will never sign another bill like this again"](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-congress-spending-bill/h_2a989f79a390048422ef5f8aba3a90ae) Could that because he knows he won’t be president long enough to do so? \ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18382 "2018-03-23T17:49:21Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > The goodwill of Congress and the donor class isn’t infinite. I really wonder when they’ll decide that he’s causing them more headaches than his unreliable pen is worth. I suspect some of the donor class - the Mercers, in particular - have already crossed the political (and possibly, legal) Rubicon. Now your Gary Cohns and Wall Street Republicans, on the other hand, are probably already getting sick of his shit. It’s just hard to call him out when what you see around you **looks** like a good economy. But again, these things take time. Obama was given an old beat up car, but he fixed up it fairly nice. Alas! Trump seems determined to drive it right over the cliff, Thelma and Louise style. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18383 "2018-03-23T17:51:05Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I suspect some of the donor class - the Mercers, in particular - have already crossed the political (and possibly, legal) Rubicon. > > Now your Gary Cohns and Wall Street Republicans, on the other hand, are probably already getting sick of his shit. It’s just hard to call him out when what you see around you **looks** like a good economy. But again, these things take time. > > Obama was given an old beat up car, but he fixed up it fairly nice. Alas! Trump seems determined to drive it right over the cliff, Thelma and Louise style. But look how fast it goes! We should put some rocket fuel in it, we’ll get to the cliff even faster. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18384 "2018-03-23T18:16:26Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > A) [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/22/gop-congress-spending-spree-440005](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/22/gop-congress-spending-spree-440005) > B) Trump s currently in the process of flipping every table in sight out of built up anger of having everyone rebuffing him and hemming him in for a year. So now the Legislature has been ignoring him and his wants while negotiating one of the most important bills in the year with the Democrats, and giving them most of everything they want. If he’s going to go to town on his cabinet and China, using this as a vehicle for throwing a tantrum in Congress’ direction seems like it would be pretty par for the course this month. > C) The Breitbart heads are announcing that the Tea Party has died with this bill. He can win pretty big with his base by dumping on the bill for a week. > D) Ultimately, the only reason that I could see that Trump doesn’t veto the thing is because he doesn’t realize what a great chance it is to call the Republicans in Congress to heel and jerk the chain. And while it is decently likely that he’ll not notice the opportunity, I think the odds are high enough that it’s worth making the prediction, for the bragging rights. Congress has gone on vacation for two weeks. If Trump vetoed it the government would shut down unless they came back and kowtowed to his demands. He also said “This is the last time I will sign a bill like this.” Ooohhh, booga booga. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=918) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=920)