# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 924
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18465 "2018-03-25T21:34:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > No, no. This is just one of those whimsical detours that the thread takes every now and then to preserve the sanity of the participants. I thought it was a political allegory. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18466 "2018-03-25T22:13:32Z")
Meanwhile, on Twitter; > [@Loser Donald](#): > > Many lawyers and top law firms want to represent me in the Russia case…don’t believe the Fake News narrative that it is hard to find a lawyer who wants to take this on. Fame & fortune will NEVER be turned down by a lawyer, though some are conflicted. Problem is that a new… lawyer or law firm will take months to get up to speed (if for no other reason than they can bill more), which is unfair to our great country - and I am very happy with my existing team. Besides, there was NO COLLUSION with Russia, except by Crooked Hillary and the Dems! In other words, everyone wants to represent them, except the ones that don’t, but it’s unfair that they expect to get paid, and he’s happy with the lawyers he has which is why they keep quitting, and also Crooked Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Dorabella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@Dorabella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorabella)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18467 "2018-03-25T22:32:30Z")
S[eth Abramson’s Twitter post](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson): Trump effectively has no lawyers: (1) McGahn is a witness against him. (2) He no longer trusts Cobb and discusses firing him. (3) Dowd resigned. (4) DiGenova and Toensing chose not to join the team. (5) Sekulow is more activist than lawyer. (6) Cohen is mired in scandal. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18468 "2018-03-25T23:03:42Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > No lawyer wants to represent an antagonistic client that refuses to listen. I’m reminded of how his earlier lawyers would [meet with him in pairs](https://www.salon.com/2016/10/07/even-donald-trumps-lawyers-think-hes-a-habitual-liar/) for safety’s sake. > [@](#): > > According to a deposition from Trump’s 1992 bankruptcy hearing, his lawyers said that they would always meet with the real estate mogul in pairs, so he couldn’t backtrack on them. > > “We tried to do it with Donald always if we could because Donald says certain things and then has a lack of memory,” attorney Patrick McGahn said during the deposition in transcripts obtained by BuzzFeed. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18469 "2018-03-25T23:29:43Z")
[The transcript of the Stormy Daniels interview is out.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stormy-daniels-describes-her-alleged-affair-with-donald-trump-60-minutes-interview/) ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18470 "2018-03-25T23:41:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Meanwhile, on Twitter; > In other words, everyone wants to represent them, except the ones that don’t, but it’s unfair that they expect to get paid, and he’s happy with the lawyers he has which is why they keep quitting, and also Crooked Hillary. He could play to his base by hiring Matlock. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18471 "2018-03-26T00:48:58Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > He could play to his base by hiring Matlock. Matlock wouldn’t work for the bad guy! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18472 "2018-03-26T01:32:05Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [The transcript of the Stormy Daniels interview is out.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stormy-daniels-describes-her-alleged-affair-with-donald-trump-60-minutes-interview/) I think it’s very gutsy of her to do this publicly. I don’t care if she got paid or didn’t, or if she signed anything or didn’t, or if she gives any money back or doesn’t. Men with a lot less to lose than she (and who haven’t been threatened) have shown they don’t have the guts to say one negative thing about thump. So brava, Stephanie! (Watch out for Russians and umbrellas.) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18473 "2018-03-26T03:44:13Z")
The man has no memory? No, Mr. Douchebag attorneys, he just doesn’t fucking care. No contract with him is worth the words used to negotiate it. He doesn’t pay people, he’s been sued well over 3,000 times, he doesn’t keep his word. He considers any written contract as a beginning for future negotiations for him to do what he promised, but if you even give him a dirty look, he’ll sue the fuck out of YOU for breach of contract. Why doesn’t he care? He’s been taught that he doesn’t have to. There are no consequences, only benefits. He’s the fucking President of the United States, fucked both a playboy model and a porn star while married, and the rubes eat his shit like it is the finest gourmet food. The Religious Right has literally sacrificed any claim to moral high ground by supporting him in the face of all of this. Their hypocrisy is blindingly obvious. Their credibility is in ashes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18474 "2018-03-26T03:44:19Z")
[Shulkin prolly out at the VA this week](https://apnews.com/1e805ce49e5b46c6b34f7e66d05d4055/AP-sources:-Trump-plans-to-oust-Shulkin-as-VA-secretary). Amused observers are hoping that Trump picks former Special Forces officer and Vietnam veteran John Rambo to replace Shulkin. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18475 "2018-03-26T04:13:52Z")
Michael Cohen’s lawyer is demanding that Stormy Daniels retract the claim that he sent a thug to threaten her. A claim she never made. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18476 "2018-03-26T04:57:39Z")
Mike Pompeo’s wife uses CIA facilities and staff as one of his most trusted advisers. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington have filed a FOIA request asking for information about her activities. [https://www.citizensforethics.org/foia/foia-request-central-intelligence-agency-pompeo-communications/](https://www.citizensforethics.org/foia/foia-request-central-intelligence-agency-pompeo-communications/) ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18477 "2018-03-26T05:20:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I think it’s very gutsy of her to do this publicly. I don’t care if she got paid or didn’t, or if she signed anything or didn’t, or if she gives any money back or doesn’t. Men with a lot less to lose than she (and who haven’t been threatened) have shown they don’t have the guts to say one negative thing about thump. So brava, Stephanie! (Watch out for Russians and umbrellas.) She said that Anderson didn’t even buy her breakfast. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18478 "2018-03-26T05:21:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Michael Cohen’s lawyer is demanding that Stormy Daniels retract the claim that he sent a thug to threaten her. A claim she never made. But she did claim a thug threatened her - so this is like one of those cheap mysteries where the bad guy gives it away by referencing events he was not supposed to know. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18479 "2018-03-26T07:51:07Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > But she did claim a thug threatened her - so this is like one of those cheap mysteries where the bad guy gives it away by referencing events he was not supposed to know. He did the same stupid when he accused her of violating the non-disclosure agreement 20 times over the years. Uhhh - what NDA? There was an NDA? Guess there was one:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18480 "2018-03-26T08:55:34Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > The Religious Right has literally sacrificed any claim to moral high ground by supporting him in the face of all of this. Their hypocrisy is blindingly obvious. Their credibility is in ashes. I don’t want to sound like a whiner, but I’ve been hoisting that banner since November 2016. Supporting this guy just on what they knew \*then \*disqualifies them from ever talking about immoral politicians again. ---
**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18481 "2018-03-26T09:14:19Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Meanwhile, on Twitter; > In other words, everyone wants to represent them, except the ones that don’t, but it’s unfair that they expect to get paid, and he’s happy with the lawyers he has which is why they keep quitting, and also Crooked Hillary. Hilary was a lawyer wasn’t she? She is between jobs right now and frankly, being crooked might be an asset defending Trump. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18482 "2018-03-26T09:16:24Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I don’t want to sound like a whiner, but I’ve been hoisting that banner since November 2016. Supporting this guy just on what they knew \*then \*disqualifies them from ever talking about immoral politicians again. It’s deeper than just having the right to talk about moral high ground - they never had it to begin with. What their support of Trump makes obvious is the fact that they don’t care about Christian morality and I refuse to think of evangelicals as even remotely Christian - a lot of evangelicals (and WASPs generally) simply aren’t Christian at all. They’re adherents to a cult-like form of “Christianity” that they invented for themselves to justify controlling other people’s behavior. That’s what these “Christians” want and it’s why they voted for Trump, to control the behavior and lives of others. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18483 "2018-03-26T09:27:25Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s deeper than just having the right to talk about moral high ground - they never had it to begin with. What their support of Trump makes obvious is the fact that they don’t care about Christian morality and I refuse to think of evangelicals as even remotely Christian - a lot of evangelicals (and WASPs generally) simply aren’t Christian at all. They’re adherents to a cult-like form of “Christianity” that they invented for themselves to justify controlling other people’s behavior. That’s what these “Christians” want and it’s why they voted for Trump, to control the behavior and lives of others. Agreed. I just don’t see how \*now \*is the tipping point where we get to point out their hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18484 "2018-03-26T09:32:42Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Agreed. I just don’t see how \*now \*is the tipping point where we get to point out their hypocrisy. It isn’t. The tipping point will be when the average person - Christian or not - is living with the consequences of their voting behavior. Unfortunately, the rest of us will also be living with those same consequences. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=923) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=925)