# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1841 "2017-03-05T01:12:08Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Has ANY Republican in Congress even commented on this or reacted to it?

Senator Grahm stated this morning he intents to get to the bottom of this. I don’t think he means he’ll prove the allegations.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1842 "2017-03-05T01:19:49Z")

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Speculation is this is some weird reaction to Sessions recusing himself from future Russian probes. They say Traitor Trump is livid about that. And CNN says Sessions is meeting with Trump in Florida at this very moment. Wish I could be a fly on that wall.

EDIT: And now CNN is saying this is an extremely uncomfortable weekend to be a top staffer. Word is this is the angriest anyone has ever seen Traitor Trump. It sounds like his head may really explode.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1843 "2017-03-05T01:44:09Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> The foreign steel was already acquired. No point in throwing away good foreign steel that’s already there.\* Going forward\*, pipeline steel can be U.S.-sourced, but for now, using existing steel is the right thing to do. Had Trump discarded perfectly good foreign steel just for the sake of “Buy American”, he’d be criticized as wasteful. This decision was the right call.

Yes, this is a totally reasonable position that can be fairly debated. It is also not what Trump said. He said flatly that the DAPL would NOT go forward unless it used American steel. Trump, who was supposed to be some construction and infrastructure expert, made a promise, just last week, that shows he has no fucking clue how big projects like this work. The guy approved the project and said it had to use American steel, apparently without even a cursory knowledge of the status of the project or indeed of how massive quantities of steel are sourced for major construction projects. Someone who’s fit to be the goddamned President of the United States would say what you said. Trump just spouts off whatever crap he thinks of, even when, as a self professed construction expert, he of all people should fucking know better.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1844 "2017-03-05T01:49:08Z")

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Wait, why is Mr. Trump worried about wiretapping? I thought he had one of those newfangled wireless phones.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1845 "2017-03-05T02:00:09Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Has ANY Republican in Congress even commented on this or reacted to it?

[Ben Sasse, he has.](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/05/senator-ben-sasse-trump-wiretap-claims-response-nr.cnn)

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1846 "2017-03-05T02:09:38Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> EDIT: And now CNN is saying this is an extremely uncomfortable weekend to be a top staffer. Word is this is the angriest anyone has ever seen Traitor Trump. It sounds like his head may really explode.

I’m crossing my fingers that this happens, and that if it does, the shrapnel will take out Pence and Ryan.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1847 "2017-03-05T02:11:13Z")

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Shall we start a pool? Apoplexy or aneurysm. Or are they the same thing?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1848 "2017-03-05T02:39:40Z")

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An El Paso city councilman has introduced a city ordinance preventing the city from issuing contracts to work with the city, to any company that works on Trump’s wall.

> **[Texas city: Work on Trump's wall and you won't work for us](https://www.sfgate.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Texas-city-Work-on-Trump-s-wall-and-you-won-t-10977434.php)**
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> A West Texas city is considering banning anyone working on Donald Trump's border wall...

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1849 "2017-03-05T02:49:03Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Speculation is this is some weird reaction to Sessions recusing himself from future Russian probes. They say Traitor Trump is livid about that. And CNN says Sessions is meeting with Trump in Florida at this very moment. Wish I could be a fly on that wall.
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> EDIT: And now CNN is saying this is an extremely uncomfortable weekend to be a top staffer. Word is this is the angriest anyone has ever seen Traitor Trump. It sounds like his head may really explode.

Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout to the point that [aides have been seen in tears in recent days…](Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout  
[http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html))

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1850 "2017-03-05T02:57:00Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> The foreign steel was already acquired. No point in throwing away good foreign steel that’s already there.\* Going forward\*, pipeline steel can be U.S.-sourced, but for now, using existing steel is the right thing to do. Had Trump discarded perfectly good foreign steel just for the sake of “Buy American”, he’d be criticized as wasteful. This decision was the right call.

Yes, it was the right call. Too bad Trump lied about it. The textbook (not really) definition of a pathological liar is someone who lies when the truth would do better.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1851 "2017-03-05T03:42:12Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout to the point that [aides have been seen in tears in recent days…](Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout  
> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html))

Link doesn’t work for me

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1852 "2017-03-05T03:49:09Z")

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> **[Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump is extremely frustrated with his senior staff and communications team for allowing the firestorm surrounding Attorney General Jeff Sessions to steal his thunder in the wake of his address to Congress, sources tell CNN.

Sorry!

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1853 "2017-03-05T04:30:38Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout to the point that [aides have been seen in tears in recent days…](Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout  
> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html))

Why should they be any different from the rest of us?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1854 "2017-03-05T19:57:06Z")

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Does Trump have the authority to go ahead and start building his Wall, without Congressional authority?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1855 "2017-03-05T20:01:53Z")

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Authority, yes. Money, no.

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1856 "2017-03-05T20:04:43Z")

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Oklahoma lawmaker asks Muslim constituents "[do you beat your wife ?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-lawmaker-asks-muslims-beat-wife-201328825--politics.html)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1857 "2017-03-05T20:04:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Authority, yes. Money, no.

He can order studies and stuff, with a deft touch on existing budgets. Kinda like Pharoah and the Pyramids, sending guys out to see if there’s enough sand. But build it? Picture a convoy of eighteen wheelers, hauling pallets of hundred dollar bills out to the Pit to be burned. Say, thirty or forty. Down payment. There may be cost overruns, of course. Some.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1858 "2017-03-05T20:44:14Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He can order studies and stuff, with a deft touch on existing budgets. Kinda like Pharoah and the Pyramids, sending guys out to see if there’s enough sand. But build it? Picture a convoy of eighteen wheelers, hauling pallets of hundred dollar bills out to the Pit to be burned. Say, thirty or forty. Down payment. There may be cost overruns, of course. Some.

Why doesn’t he just build gas ovens instead? Probably much more economical.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1859 "2017-03-05T20:52:13Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> Oklahoma lawmaker asks Muslim constituents "[do you beat your wife ?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-lawmaker-asks-muslims-beat-wife-201328825--politics.html)

Well, in all fairness though, whose wives _would_ they beat?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1860 "2017-03-05T22:06:36Z")

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Roger Stone admits to communicating with WikiLeaks.  
[Former Trump Adviser Roger Stone Admits Collusion With WikiLeaks, Then Deletes It | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roger-stone-donald-trump-julian-assange_us_58bc24cae4b0d2821b4ec16c)?  
I wonder if he deleted it because it was a political oops or because he decided calling a woman a stupid bitch wouldn’t be a good thing to do.

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