# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1861 "2017-03-05T23:25:09Z")

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Kellyanne Conway says that her use of alternative facts is the same thing as the Oscars messing up the Best Picture winner.

> **[Conway compares ‘alternative facts’ comment to Oscars flub](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/322423-conway-compares-alternative-facts-comment-to-oscars-flub/)**
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> President Trump’s top aide Kellyanne Conway said everyone makes mistakes, appearing to compare her comments about “alternative facts” to the error made during this year’s Os…

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1862 "2017-03-05T23:33:00Z")

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The steel being imported for the Keystone XL pipeline comes from the Canadian subsidiary of a Russia company partly owned by a Russian billionaire who is a Putin crony.

> **[Steel Made by Russian Company Tied to Putin Used in Keystone XL and Dakota...](https://www.ecowatch.com/steel-russia-dakota-access-pipeline-2273940971.html)**
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> Evraz is owned in part by Roman Abramovich, a Russian multi-billionaire credited for bringing Russian President Putin into office in the late 1990s. Trump

> **[Trump Reverses Pledge To Mandate U.S. Steel For Keystone Pipeline. A Direct...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-reverses-pledge-to-mandate-us-steel-for-keystone_b_58bbae99e4b0fa65b844b451)**
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> Trump Reverses Pledge To Mandate U.S. Steel For Keystone Pipeline. A Direct Beneficiary Is A Russian Oligarch With Close Ties To Vladimir Putin

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1863 "2017-03-05T23:34:47Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> Oklahoma lawmaker asks Muslim constituents "[do you beat your wife ?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-lawmaker-asks-muslims-beat-wife-201328825--politics.html)

This would be my answer:

At Trivial Pursuit, yes. She’s the better bowler, however.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1864 "2017-03-06T05:21:45Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> [The Basic Formula For Every Shocking Russia/Trump Revelation | by Michael Tracey | The Young Turks | Medium](https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05#.e9k45hrgi)
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> Describes this shameful resurrected neo-McCarthyism perfectly.

Show of hands. Who else besides me thinks this is a sock for the banned **handsomeharry**?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1865 "2017-03-06T09:07:42Z")

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Well, I don’t have an opinion about that, but that reminds me of someone observing that there are multiple layers of irony in a conservative evoking McCarthy regarding anyone saying something bad about Trump.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1866 "2017-03-06T17:29:01Z")

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The Trump administration response to the judicial hold on the travel ban has gone from “SEE YOU IN COURT!” to “uh, we, uh, made a few changes and hope you like this one better…”

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1867 "2017-03-06T17:33:16Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The Trump administration response to the judicial hold on the travel ban has gone from “SEE YOU IN COURT!” to “uh, we, uh, made a few changes and hope you like this one better…”

Delayed implementation?! Oh no, all of the BAD HOMBRES are going to rush in! Sad!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1868 "2017-03-06T17:45:39Z")

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[This may be worth reading.](http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Mother-Jones-magazine-sees-a-surge-in-reader-10979054.php)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1869 "2017-03-06T17:47:54Z")

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[Nobody wants shitty Trump Tower in Toronto:](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/no-bidders-make-offers-to-buy-trump-tower-in-toronto/article34215006/)

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> The court-run sale of a downtown Toronto high-rise bearing the name of U.S. President Donald Trump received no initial bids and ownership will likely fall to its main debt holder, a letter from the receiver showed.

Why does nobody want it? Perhaps the Trump name is toxic. Perhaps it is just a shitty deal. Or maybe the Toronto real estate market is in a slump. Ha ha ha ha ha!

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> While the building in Toronto’s financial district has been beset by problems since it opened its doors in 2012, the broader Toronto hotel market has boomed.

I think it’s because few Canadians want to live in or stay anywhere with the Trump name attached.

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> Since its opening, less than half of its residential condos have been sold by Talon and the hotel’s occupancy rates have been lower than some investors in the rooms had hoped.

Here’s an idea; Change the building’s name to “Trump Is An Asshole Tower”. The valuation would skyrocket.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1870 "2017-03-06T18:07:54Z")

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Well, you just level the property and replace it with a cesspool.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1871 "2017-03-06T18:19:40Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout to the point that [aides have been seen in tears in recent days…](Trump angry and frustrated at staff over Sessions fallout  
> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-reince-priebus/index.html))

I have so many questions regarding “Aides in tears”. I assume that these are people that Trump brought with him into the White House? If so, didn’t they know what they were getting into? I mean, I can imagine tears of frustration because some syphilitic old bastard is yelling at you for things that were his fault, that you had no part of and can’t fix. But I thought these people were supposed to be the best. If having the President pitch a hissy fit causes you stress, how are you going to handle things when things really go to hell? Like, I dunno, the Russians start annexing adjacent countries and stuff like that?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1872 "2017-03-06T18:48:39Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> [This may be worth reading.](http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Mother-Jones-magazine-sees-a-surge-in-reader-10979054.php)

Can you give some hint as to where this goes and what it is about? Thx.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1873 "2017-03-06T18:51:36Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> …how are you going to handle things when things really go to hell? Like, I dunno, the Russians start annexing adjacent countries and stuff like that?

Simple.

Blame Obama.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1874 "2017-03-06T19:15:17Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Can you give some hint as to where this goes and what it is about? Thx.

It would have taken you less time to click on the link and read the headline than to ask this question.

Hell, you can see where it goes and what the main topic is just by hovering over the link and looking at the URL.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1875 "2017-03-06T19:27:38Z")

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::holding finger over tablet screen, waiting… ::

Doesn’t seem to work?

Anyway, article is about Mother Jones’s magazine subscription numbers (up).

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1876 "2017-03-06T19:28:34Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> It would have taken you less time to click on the link and read the headline than to ask this question.
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> Hell, you can see where it goes and what the main topic is just by hovering over the link and looking at the URL.

And it would have taken you less time to just post what you saw than to lecture her about it. Seems time isn’t the only relevant factor.

Mother Jones is seeing an uptick in readership and funding. They are a nonprofit and rely on 70% of their budget from subscriptions and donations, and the antics of the Trump administration have been good for them, allowing them to hire more editors and journalists, investigate more stories, and even fight off a million dollar politically motivated lawsuit.

The “fake news” scare has gotten people to desire to fund legitimate, independent news sources. And it may be that nonprofit news is the wave of the future.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1877 "2017-03-06T19:30:38Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> It would have taken you less time to click on the link and read the headline than to ask this question.
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> Hell, you can see where it goes and what the main topic is just by hovering over the link and looking at the URL.

Yeah, but aren’t we usually encouraged to give a little more info than “Check out this link!” when we post?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1878 "2017-03-06T19:30:53Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> It would have taken you less time to click on the link and read the headline than to ask this question.
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> Hell, you can see where it goes and what the main topic is just by hovering over the link and looking at the URL.

Was I addressing you? Didn’t think so.

Anyway, you have made some uninformed assumptions.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1879 "2017-03-06T19:54:09Z")

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Wow, **BigT** and **Czarcasm** agree on something. Will any of Donnie’s accomplishments ever top this?

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1880 "2017-03-06T19:55:27Z")

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Mika Brzezinski did not hold back on [Morning Joe today](http://theweek.com/speedreads/684151/morning-joes-mika-brzezinski-tearfully-addresses-trumps-wiretapping-accusations-presidency-fake-failed).

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> “I had hope and an open mind. I am losing hope, and my mind is closing,” Brzezinkski said. “This presidency is fake and failed.”

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