# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 950
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18985 "2018-04-11T13:53:57Z")
The Handwriting is on the Wall (not the border wall) [Speaker Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-election in November](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/paul-ryan-speaker.html) The usual “want to be with my family” explanation, but he saw he was facing a difficult road to re-election. Trump has done more to destroy the GOP than any anti-American liberal could hope to. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18986 "2018-04-11T13:57:08Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > What “current low prices”??? > > The market may have dropped a dozen times, but it has bounced back every time and is still hanging around 24,000. Exactly. There’s hardly a fire sale going on yet with the market. If there’s “low prices,” I don’t see them. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18987 "2018-04-11T14:18:18Z")
[A window](https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/a-congressman-s-profanity-laced-tirade-in-a-safeway-grocery-store-SeHI2l5bIECGQn4gmnzGaw/) into what Republican politicians really think of the Dotard-in-Chief: > [@](#): > > “If we’re going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherf\*\*ker,” said the congressman as we roamed the aisles of a Safeway grocery store together… > > “I read you writing about this, about wanting to say nice things when you can and criticize when you need to. He may be an idiot, but he’s still the President and leader of my party and he is capable of doing some things right,” he says before conceding it’s usually other people doing the right things in the President’s name. “But dammit he’s taking us all down with him. We are well and truly f\*\*ked in November. Kevin [McCarthy] is already circling like a green fly circling sh\*t trying to take Paul’s [Ryan] job because nobody thinks he’s sticking around for Nancy [Pelosi]…” > > "“It’s like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really f_cking stupid Forrest Gump. He can’t help himself. He’s just a f\*\*king idiot who thinks he’s winning when people are b_tching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention…” > > “I say a lot of shit on TV defending him, even over this. But honestly, I wish the motherf_cker would just go away. We’re going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn’t led. He wakes up in the morning, sh_ts all over Twitter, sh_ts all over us, sh_ts all over his staff, then hits golf balls. F\*ck him. Of course, I can’t say that in public or I’d get run out of town.”… ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18988 "2018-04-11T14:49:55Z")
Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18989 "2018-04-11T14:55:48Z")
I don’t want to sidetrack this too much, but buying at a local low will make you money regardless of the overall value of the market (assuming it goes back up). If I buy 10 shares @ $10 per share, and it climbs to $20. I could sell for $100. Suppose I do not sell. If it then drops to $15 and I buy 10 more shares, I now have 20 shares at an average of $12.50 a share. If it climbs back to $20 a share and I sell, I make $150 (invested $250, sold for $400). This is equivalent to 20 x $7.50, but also equivalent to 10 x $10 + 10 x $5. So buying at this local low makes sense, even if overall the market is up. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18990 "2018-04-11T15:05:46Z")
> [@](#): > > We’re going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn’t led. He wakes up in the morning, sh_ts all over Twitter, sh_ts all over us, sh_ts all over his staff, then hits golf balls. F_ck him. Of course, I can’t say that in public or I’d get run out of town. My schadenfreude bucket just overflowed. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18991 "2018-04-11T15:09:26Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The Handwriting is on the Wall (not the border wall) > > [Speaker Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-election in November](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/paul-ryan-speaker.html) > > The usual “want to be with my family” explanation, but he saw he was facing a difficult road to re-election. Trump has done more to destroy the GOP than any anti-American liberal could hope to. Well, it just hasn’t been as much fun for the GOP as it would have been with Hillary as president. There would have been dozens of investigations going on right now. (I don’t think they would have impeached her right off the bat - torturing her would have been more satisfying). So, like others before him, he’ll probably join Fox News, where at least he can pretend to torture her. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18992 "2018-04-11T15:24:41Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > How odd that a fella who has made being unfair to random schmoes a virtue and practically a life’s work, should bleat so often and loudly about unfairness. Ain’t that always the case, though? Those that do the worst to others can be quite the pathetic crybabies when the shit comes back at 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18993 "2018-04-11T15:26:46Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [A window](https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/a-congressman-s-profanity-laced-tirade-in-a-safeway-grocery-store-SeHI2l5bIECGQn4gmnzGaw/) into what Republican politicians really think of the Dotard-in-Chief: I am entirely unsympathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18994 "2018-04-11T15:56:14Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The Handwriting is on the Wall (not the border wall) > > [Speaker Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-election in November](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/paul-ryan-speaker.html) > > The usual “want to be with my family” explanation, but he saw he was facing a difficult road to re-election. Trump has done more to destroy the GOP than any anti-American liberal could hope to. My understanding is that he actually has a relatively smooth road to reelection. I suspect that it is two fold. 1. He succeeded in getting a massive tax cut for the rich which was his only real legislative priority, so he doesn’t have any real reason to keep going. 2. Even if he is reelected he’s probably not going to be in the majority which is never as fun. 3. When the shit really hits the fan any GOP remotely close to the source is going to be covered in it, so since he may eventually have presidential ambitions it is best to be as far away as possible from Washington when it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18995 "2018-04-11T16:02:09Z")
Any chance this is preliminary maneuvering to be a primary challenger in two years? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18996 "2018-04-11T16:12:20Z")
Just in, he’s doing it to spend more time with his family. And he has his eye on the future, as the huge economic boom that is sure to roll down from the wonderful tax cuts the people will remember him as the numbers guy, policy wonk, and intellectual powerhouse of the party. Gotta wonder, though, what happens if a bunch of other Pubbies misunderstand his sincere commitment to family values and see it as gittin’ gone while the gittin’ is good. What happens if ten…twenty…fifty?..of his colleagues take the Great Leap Overboard, in the tradition of rodents confronted with a nautical calamity? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18997 "2018-04-11T16:23:51Z")
Rumor is there’s a plummy job waiting for Ryan to head up the Heritage Foundation. A little ‘thank you’ from the Kochs. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18998 "2018-04-11T16:30:22Z")
I swear that place must be a revolving door as well, because I have vague recollections of any number of Republican politicians taking that spot in the past decade. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/18999 "2018-04-11T16:35:55Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [A window](https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/a-congressman-s-profanity-laced-tirade-in-a-safeway-grocery-store-SeHI2l5bIECGQn4gmnzGaw/) into what Republican politicians really think of the Dotard-in-Chief: I love this, thanks for posting the link 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19000 "2018-04-11T16:39:22Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I swear that place must be a revolving door as well, because I have vague recollections of any number of Republican politicians taking that spot in the past decade. So many lobbyist positions, so few retired Republican legislators to fill them… ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19001 "2018-04-11T16:58:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > What happens if ten…twenty…fifty?..of his colleagues take the Great Leap Overboard, in the tradition of rodents confronted with a nautical calamity? We are already there. According to Vox, we are already up to [twenty-eight](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/13/16624520/paul-ryan-retires-republicans-resigning). Seven more than during Watergate. Only nine Democrats will not run this year. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19002 "2018-04-11T18:08:57Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > I don’t want to sidetrack this too much, but buying at a local low will make you money regardless of the overall value of the market (assuming it goes back up). Where did you get the money to buy with at the local low? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19003 "2018-04-11T18:24:26Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [A window](https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/a-congressman-s-profanity-laced-tirade-in-a-safeway-grocery-store-SeHI2l5bIECGQn4gmnzGaw/) into what Republican politicians really think of the Dotard-in-Chief: I just saw this. No way to know how true it is, of course, but very amusing. Strangest part is how upset he seems to be about Nancy Pelosi “fucking up” the cafeteria. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19004 "2018-04-11T18:28:09Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I just saw this. No way to know how true it is, of course, but very amusing. > > Strangest part is how upset he seems to be about Nancy Pelosi “fucking up” the cafeteria. I regard all anonymous quotes as fabrications. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=949) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=951)