# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19005 "2018-04-11T18:41:04Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Where did you get the money to buy with at the local low?

From my disposable income? Is this a trick question?

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19006 "2018-04-11T19:10:53Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I just saw this. No way to know how true it is, of course, but very amusing.
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> Strangest part is how upset he seems to be about Nancy Pelosi “fucking up” the cafeteria.

Seems legit. The first thing the Republicans did when regaining control of the House was to get rid of the compostable silverware in the cafeteria. I swear to God.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19007 "2018-04-11T19:12:57Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> From my disposable income?

Your disposable income at which point in time?

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> Is this a trick question?

Yes, of course.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19008 "2018-04-11T21:12:25Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> Is this a trick question?

Well, he is an evil economist after all.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19009 "2018-04-11T22:04:33Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Your disposable income at which point in time?  
> Yes, of course.

From my most recent pay.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19010 "2018-04-11T22:20:04Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> From my most recent pay.

We have 4 time periods: t0, at which stock price is 10. t1, at which stock price is 20. t2, at which stock price is 15, and t3, at which stock price is 20. You make a 100 purchase at t0 and t2. when did you receive each of those income amounts?

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19011 "2018-04-12T01:00:53Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> The Handwriting is on the Wall (not the border wall)
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> [Speaker Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-election in November](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/paul-ryan-speaker.html)

And, for an amusing take on this news, there’s the Borowitz Report: [Furious Koch Brothers Sell Paul Ryan on eBay](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/furious-koch-brothers-sell-paul-ryan-on-ebay)

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> The Kochs, who reportedly had purchased Ryan for a sum estimated in the tens of millions, now seem likely to lose their entire investment.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19012 "2018-04-12T01:16:41Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> And, for an amusing take on this news, there’s the Borowitz Report: [Furious Koch Brothers Sell Paul Ryan on eBay](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/furious-koch-brothers-sell-paul-ryan-on-ebay)

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> The eBay listing suggested several possible uses for the former House Speaker, including as a Halloween ornament or garden gnome.

I’m holding out for the more suitable Jeff Sessions.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19013 "2018-04-12T04:05:47Z")

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Good article which explains what it’s like to work inside the Clusterfuck: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-chooses-impulse-over-strategy-as-crises-mount/2018/04/11/884e33c2-3d9d-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-chooses-impulse-over-strategy-as-crises-mount/2018/04/11/884e33c2-3d9d-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html)

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> “It’s just like everybody wakes up every morning and does whatever is right in front of them,” said one West Wing aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity to share a candid opinion. “Oh, my God, Trump Tower is on fire. Oh, my God, they raided Michael Cohen’s office. Oh, my God, we’re going to bomb Syria. Whatever is there is what people respond to, and there is no proactive strategic thinking.”  
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> "Senior U.S. officials describe a president who is operating largely on impulse, with little patience for the advice of his top aides. “A decision or statement is made by the president, and then the principals — Mattis or Pompeo or Kelly — come in and tell him we can’t do it,” said one senior administration official. “When that fails, we reverse-engineer a policy process to match whatever the president said.”

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19014 "2018-04-12T04:11:59Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> We have 4 time periods: t0, at which stock price is 10. t1, at which stock price is 20. t2, at which stock price is 15, and t3, at which stock price is 20. You make a 100 purchase at t0 and t2. when did you receive each of those income amounts?

I don’t know. The numbers are made up. All I can say if this, I buy regularly to take advantage of forced savings and dollar cost averaging, but I buy more when the market is going down from my budgeted disposable income. If that’s wrong, then please explain to me why?

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**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19015 "2018-04-12T15:34:38Z")

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…its wrong because it doesnt have screw el douchbag in the sentence?

cmon peoples I miss my morning clusterfuck!😃

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19016 "2018-04-12T15:54:39Z")

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This isn’t a very good medium for a Socratic teaching style.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19017 "2018-04-12T16:12:02Z")

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Wait, Turmp has a soaked attic because of method acting teachers?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19018 "2018-04-12T16:57:40Z")

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[Yeah! Let’s re-enter the TPP](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/trump-directs-top-economic-advisers-to-look-at-re-entering-tpp)

Fascinating.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19019 "2018-04-12T17:16:04Z")

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Dang.

Flashed across my FB feed.

“Like if you think it doesn’t matter that Trump had sex with a porn star before becoming President”

With 6.6k likes, a few hundred loves and comments proclaiming him the greatest president ever.

\*\*Ok, I get it. Morality is for suckers and your enemies. Republicans don’t keep any for themselves.

Fucking people calling themselves Christians and screaming about morality don’t care that their leader is a serial adulterer.

The biblical commandments are apparently no longer in effect.\*\*

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19020 "2018-04-12T17:30:25Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Dang.
> 
> Flashed across my FB feed.
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> “Like if you think it doesn’t matter that Trump had sex with a porn star before becoming President”
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> With 6.6k likes, a few hundred loves and comments proclaiming him the greatest president ever.

I saw that too. Note that what they’re doing there is defining the narrative so that in pretending the Cohen raid was about the sex they can claim that Democrats are hypocrites for excusing Bill Clinton’s affairs. Never mind that the sex itself was never the issue from a legal standpoint and in fact if Trump had paid Daniels himself and signed the NDA this would have been much less of an issue, nor that aside from paying Daniels Cohen is also connected to Russia in about half a dozen ways nor that there are apparently other things including whatever is going on with the taxi medallions. No, it’s about the sex and THERE’S NO EVIDENCE ABOUT RUSSIA OR ANY ACTUAL CRIMES LA LA LA WE’RE NOT LISTENING

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19021 "2018-04-12T17:33:43Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Dang.
> 
> Flashed across my FB feed.
> 
> “Like if you think it doesn’t matter that Trump had sex with a porn star before becoming President”
> 
> With 6.6k likes, a few hundred loves and comments proclaiming him the greatest president ever.
> 
> \*\*Ok, I get it. Morality is for suckers and your enemies. Republicans don’t keep any for themselves.
> 
> Fucking people calling themselves Christians and screaming about morality don’t care that their leader is a serial adulterer.
> 
> The biblical commandments are apparently no longer in effect.\*\*

Funny thing… Trump sure seems to think they would mine. To the tune of $130,000.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19022 "2018-04-12T17:54:15Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> **Ok, I get it. Morality is for suckers and your enemies.**

[looks that way](https://www.apnews.com/amp/f37ecfc4710b468db6a103a245146172?__twitter_impression=true)

_Eight months before the company that owns the National Enquirer paid $150,000 to a former Playboy Playmate … the tabloid’s parent made a $30,000 payment to … a former doorman at one of (Shitgibbon’s) buildings.… (Dino) Sajudin got $30,000 in exchange for signing over the rights, “in perpetuity,” to a rumor he’d heard about Trump’s sex life — that the president had fathered a child with an employee at Trump World Tower … The contract subjected Sajudin to a $1 million penalty if he disclosed either the rumor or the terms of the deal to anyone._

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19023 "2018-04-12T18:28:07Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Dang.
> 
> Flashed across my FB feed.
> 
> “Like if you think it doesn’t matter that Trump had sex with a porn star before becoming President”
> 
> With 6.6k likes, a few hundred loves and comments proclaiming him the greatest president ever.
> 
> \*\*Ok, I get it. Morality is for suckers and your enemies. Republicans don’t keep any for themselves.
> 
> Fucking people calling themselves Christians and screaming about morality don’t care that their leader is a serial adulterer.
> 
> The biblical commandments are apparently no longer in effect.\*\*

I would “like” that post too. Even having sex with pornstars hasn’t made him a better president.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19024 "2018-04-12T18:31:38Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> … Never mind that … if Trump had paid Daniels himself and signed the NDA this would have been much less of an issue …

Having a craven criminal lead a major country isn’t so unusual — we’ve had a few such right here in the Land of Smiles — _but the U.S. should be embarrassed to have ended up with a craven criminal who’s so clearly stupid._

Trump could have fucked Ms. Daniels in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue and then shot her in the head and it wouldn’t have affected his supporters, many of whom are even stupider than Trump! Or pay her off — the craven cowardly thing to do. But instead the really really smart man who’s really really rich had to save 130 grand by trying to stiff his long-time lawyer, or pass it off as a campaign expense.

This would all be the greatest real-life comedy show ever, if it weren’t such an utter long-term calamity both for America and for the whole planet.

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