# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 956
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19105 "2018-04-13T18:04:21Z")
[Shitgibbon issues the Scooter Libby pardon](http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/04/13/president-trump-full-pardon-scooter-libby/amp/) – is lawyer Libby stupid enough to accept it? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19106 "2018-04-13T18:49:54Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [Shitgibbon issues the Scooter Libby pardon](http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/04/13/president-trump-full-pardon-scooter-libby/amp/) – is lawyer Libby stupid enough to accept it? Why wouldn’t he? He and Cheney wanted W to issue it, he’s already accepted back into the bar and has his voting rights restored. I don’t see where the ‘admission of guilt’ thing affects him at all. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19107 "2018-04-13T19:03:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’d love nothing better than to feel I could go for a day without looking at the news. The first thing I do every morning is to grab my phone to see if we’ve gone to war. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19108 "2018-04-13T19:04:48Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [Shitgibbon issues the Scooter Libby pardon](http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/04/13/president-trump-full-pardon-scooter-libby/amp/) – is lawyer Libby stupid enough to accept it? He only likes leakers of classified documents when they leak material that supports a Republican worldview. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19109 "2018-04-13T19:11:37Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Why wouldn’t he? He and Cheney wanted W to issue it, he’s already accepted back into the bar and has his voting rights restored. I don’t see where the ‘admission of guilt’ thing affects him at all. Then why the hell does he need a pardon? There’s no point to this, except to send the message that anyone convicted of perjury for Trump can expect a nice shiny pardon for their trouble. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19110 "2018-04-13T19:12:26Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Why wouldn’t he? He and Cheney wanted W to issue it, he’s already accepted back into the bar and has his voting rights restored. I don’t see where the ‘admission of guilt’ thing affects him at all. But why **would** he? It is really of no value to him. He has to present it to a judge, so he could easily just stick it in a box and forget about it (or embarrass the Dotard by publicly rejecting it). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19111 "2018-04-13T19:18:35Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Then why the hell does he need a pardon? There’s no point to this, **except to send the message that anyone convicted of perjury for Trump can expect a nice shiny pardon for their trouble**. Exactly. It’s a signal to 3, maybe 4 people that if they shut their yaps, they’ll never serve any time. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19112 "2018-04-13T20:18:53Z")
Trump is reinventing the wheel, again. They tried this in various states and it ended up costing the states more money (for the drug testing kits and evaluations) than people caught and booted from the programs. [Drug testing plan considered for some food stamp recipients | AP News](https://apnews.com/6f5adff5efeb4f9a9075f76bf9cf5572) "The Trump administration is considering a plan that would allow states to require certain food stamp recipients to undergo drug testing, handing a win to conservatives who’ve long sought ways to curb the safety net program. The proposal under review would be narrowly targeted, applying mostly to people who are able-bodied, without dependents and applying for some specialized jobs, according to an administration official briefed on the plan. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said roughly 5 percent of participants in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program could be affected." ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19113 "2018-04-13T20:22:53Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > But why **would** he? It is really of no value to him. He has to present it to a judge, so he could easily just stick it in a box and forget about it (or embarrass the Dotard by publicly rejecting it). Well, right now it’s a limited edition bit of presidential memorabilia (one of three per my understanding). If he’s lucky, he can frame it nicely and sell it on Etsy before the market gets flooded. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19114 "2018-04-13T21:32:00Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Exactly. It’s a signal to 3, maybe 4 people that if they shut their yaps, they’ll never serve any time. That was my take on this as well. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19115 "2018-04-13T21:40:22Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Then why the hell does he need a pardon? There’s no point to this, except to send the message that anyone convicted of perjury for Trump can expect a nice shiny pardon for their trouble. That is exactly what it is. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19116 "2018-04-13T21:41:20Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Well, right now it’s a limited edition bit of presidential memorabilia (one of three per my understanding). If he’s lucky, he can frame it nicely and sell it on Etsy before the market gets flooded. I think that would be against the terms of service. He’d be better off trying to offload it on Backpage, but they shut that down. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19117 "2018-04-13T21:49:56Z")
The DOJ Inspector General’s report is out regarding former Deputy AG Andew McCabe, and it finds that he misled investigators concerning what he did or didn’t say to the media. Which seems like pretty small potatoes compared to all the other crap that’s going on… but (especially with the timing, coinciding with Comey’s book) it just feeds into the parallel universes we’re living in. In one: the Trump/Fox News/Deplorables universe, the news is all about McCabe/Comey/corruption in the DOJ! corruption at the FBI! Fire Rosenstein! In the tank for the Clintons! Loretta Lynch! Deep State!!! In the other, the one with people who don’t wear tinfoil hats: it’s Cohen, Stormy Daniels, and wondering if Mueller will finish the job before he or his boss or both get fired. And there’s no overlap, no acknowledging of the common reality. I hate this shit. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19118 "2018-04-13T22:53:19Z")
Donald J. Trump: “DOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!” > Michael R. Bromwich, Andrew McCabe’s lawyer: “Thank you for providing even more material for the defamation suit we are actively considering filing against you and your colleagues. Stay tuned.” > > > Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19119 "2018-04-13T22:57:36Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > The NY Daily News has been hammering Trump since he announced his candidacy, yet he never bashes them like he does CNN, the NY Times and the Washington Post. Sure they’re a tabloid, but since when is Trump disciplined enough to avoid petty feuds? He’s not, but when someone has something on him, he’ll stay silent out of fear. This is why he’s still not hitting Putin\* or Stormy Daniels. They, along with the NY Daily News, have information (photos, tapes, video…) he still hopes will remain secret. \*other than that very mild April 8 tweet “Many dead, including women and children, in mindless CHEMICAL attack in Syria. Area of atrocity is in lockdown and encircled by Syrian Army, making it completely inaccessible to outside world. President Putin, Russia and Iran are responsible for backing Animal Assad. Big price… …to pay. Open area immediately for medical help and verification. Another humanitarian disaster for no reason whatsoever. SICK!” [https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/08/politics/donald-trump-syria-assad/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/08/politics/donald-trump-syria-assad/index.html) Compare that with the way he’s hit other world leaders, and it’s basically a lay-down-and-expose-his-throat move showing his deference to Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19120 "2018-04-13T23:02:34Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I was always skeptical of the pee tape just because I had trouble forming a cognitive narrative around it. > 5 hookers enter Trump’s hotel room. I’m going to assume that maybe they got naked and did sex stuff first — but at some point do they mention that Obama once slept in that same bed? And does Trump then say — “ since Obama once slept in this bed that **I’m going to have to sleep in tonight** , so why don’t you girls piss all over it and get it all wet and stinky,” It just didn’t make sense. > > But it’s such a perfect metaphor for what he’s done to the country that I sort of believe it. … He told Comey he _ **didn’t sleep there** _. From Comey’s new book: > [@](#): > > A week after the Trump Tower meeting, on Jan. 11, Comey writes that Trump called him and said he was concerned about the dossier being made public and was fixated on the prostitutes allegation. The president-elect argued that it could not be true because he had not stayed overnight in Moscow but had only used the hotel room to change his clothes. [https://www.spin.com/2018/04/trump-comey-book-pee-tape-schiller-testimony/](https://www.spin.com/2018/04/trump-comey-book-pee-tape-schiller-testimony/) ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19121 "2018-04-14T00:05:04Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Donald J. Trump: > “DOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!” > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984877999718895616) What’s a total disaster, in addition to this Presidency is the President’s lack of facility with the English language. The guy can’t even express what he is trying to say. The report is a total disaster? Wouldn’t he mean something more like “which is very damning.” Oh mean, Jesus F-ckin Christ, I put more intelligent thought into the phrasing of my tweets and I know they are probably only going to be seen by a handful of people, not millions. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19122 "2018-04-14T00:20:36Z")
An HHS communications official is suspended after her past social media posts were made public. Among the posts were Pizzagate tweets, calling Islam a cult, saying African Americans are way more racist than white people, and saying that the Founding Fathers would have hung Clinton and Obama for treason. > **[An HHS official is a Pizzagate conspiracy theorist with a history of...](https://www.mediamatters.org/pizzagate-conspiracy-theory/hhs-official-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist-who-said-african-americans)** > > Ximena Barreto has said “African-Americans are way more racist than” whites and Islam is a “fucking cult." ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19123 "2018-04-14T01:16:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The first thing I do every morning is to grab my phone to see if we’ve gone to war. Looks like you can abandon that habit. It’s on. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19124 "2018-04-14T01:18:17Z")
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