# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19125 "2018-04-14T01:24:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> An HHS communications official is suspended after her past social media posts were made public. Among the posts were Pizzagate tweets, calling Islam a cult, saying African Americans are way more racist than white people, and saying that the Founding Fathers would have hung Clinton and Obama for treason.  
> [https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/04/09/hhs-official-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist-who-said-african-americans-are-way-more-racist-whites-and/219888](https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/04/09/hhs-official-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist-who-said-african-americans-are-way-more-racist-whites-and/219888)

Well, to be fair, they probably would have hung Obama. Just not for “treason” as such.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19126 "2018-04-14T01:35:48Z")

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I wonder if David Rees will revive [Get Your War](http://www.mnftiu.cc/category/gywo/war81/)on?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19127 "2018-04-14T01:41:08Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The first thing I do every morning is to grab my phone to see if we’ve gone to war.

Tomorrow might be your day. The trumpanzee just sent something in, along with the UK and France.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19128 "2018-04-14T01:50:48Z")

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The US [attack Syria](https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/us-trump-syria).

Remember when repubs said that Clinton only lobbed cruise missiles at Bin Laden to take focus off of the Whitewater investigation?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19129 "2018-04-14T02:30:48Z")

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So, I knew when Trump said he wouldn’t get us into any stupid wars, it was only a matter of time until he did just that.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19130 "2018-04-14T02:35:48Z")

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Hell, remember _last week_ when Loser Donald said we were getting out of Syria?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19131 "2018-04-14T03:12:16Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Hell, remember _last week_ when Loser Donald said we were getting out of Syria?

It is rumored that he is arguing for ground troops to follow up on tonight’s attack. The Joint Chiefs disagree.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19132 "2018-04-14T03:16:03Z")

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Don’t get distracted by those missiles in Syria. The evidence for collusion is growing.

The developing story is Mueller has proof that Michael Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of the Steele dossier. The dossier claimed Cohen met Russians and Eastern European hackers in Prague and discussed “how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers in Europe who had worked under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign.”

Fortunately, the FBI has seized all of Cohen’s computers. So they probably have the evidence even if Mueller is fired.

> **[Sources: Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of...](https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article208870264.html)**
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> EDITOR’S NOTE: Robert Mueller’s report to the attorney general states that Mr. Cohen was not in Prague. It is silent on whether the investigation received evidence that Mr. Cohen’s phone pinged in or near Prague, as McClatchy reported.

> **[Special counsel has evidence Michael Cohen traveled to Prague: McClatchy](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-prague/special-counsel-has-evidence-michael-cohen-traveled-to-prague-mcclatchy-idUSKBN1HL00J)**
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> The U.S. special counsel in the Russia probe has evidence that President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague in 2016, refuting Cohen's claim that he never visited the Czech capital and bolstering an intelligence dossier...

> **[Mueller has evidence Trump attorney Michael Cohen was in Prague in 2016,...](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/mueller-proof-michael-cohen-prague-confirming-dossier-article-1.3932945)**
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> Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized with a powerful Kremlin figure.

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19133 "2018-04-14T04:31:42Z")

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Once again, with Trump, it’s impossible to tell what’s the scandal, and what’s the distraction.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19134 "2018-04-14T04:34:00Z")

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Anyone have any thoughts on [Elliot Broidy’s dealings with Malaysian captains of fraud](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/03/1mdb-trump-ally-elliot-broidy-tries-to-get-75-million-to-end-us-probe.html)? Is it just GSOP?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19135 "2018-04-14T04:46:39Z")

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There’s always a tweet  
Donald Trump in 2013:  
“What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.”

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373146637184401408>

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19136 "2018-04-14T05:16:51Z")

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I would say, “Piss on Trump and all his supporters,” but it’s obvious now that he would enjoy that, as would his supporters no doubt.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19137 "2018-04-14T05:37:39Z")

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Syria claims the places the US and its allies bombed were already evacuated days ago on Russia’s warning. I wonder how Russia knew which places would be attacked?

> **[Pro-Assad official says targeted bases were evacuated on Russian warning](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1HL07R)**
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> The Syrian government and its allies have absorbed a U.S.-led attack on Saturday and the targeted sites were evacuated days ago thanks to a warning from Russia, a senior official in a regional alliance that backs Damascus said.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19138 "2018-04-14T05:57:47Z")

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Syria is just a war. Prague is like double the extremity as Cohen’s office getting raided.

Shit got real last Monday. This Monday could be the day that the party gives Trump “the talk” and Mueller tries to issue a no fly rule against the President of the United States.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19139 "2018-04-14T06:01:04Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Syria claims the places the US and its allies bombed were already evacuated days ago on Russia’s warning. I wonder how Russia knew which places would be attacked?  
> [https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HL07R](https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HL07R)

Chump probably had to ask permission from Putin.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19140 "2018-04-14T06:45:34Z")

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I wonder if Putin gave the okay about how far Chump could go in insulting him.  
Or maybe not. If Putin gets really pissed, this would be an excellent time for the video to leak.

Pardon the expression.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19141 "2018-04-14T07:11:17Z")

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Don’t piss me off like that…

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19142 "2018-04-14T07:18:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Syria claims the places the US and its allies bombed were already evacuated days ago on Russia’s warning. I wonder how Russia knew which places would be attacked?  
> [https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HL07R](https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HL07R)

> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Chump probably had to ask permission from Putin.

[From the AP:](https://apnews.com/a607ede3a8db4aad8660f65ae1a510a6/Trump:-US,-allied-strikes-aimed-at-Syria's-chemical-weapons)

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> Dunford said the U.S. did not coordinate targets with or notify the Russian government of the strikes, beyond normal airspace “de-confliction” communications. But the description from an ally described things differently.  
> French Defense Minister Florence Parly said that “with our allies, we ensured that the Russians were warned ahead of time.”

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19143 "2018-04-14T10:58:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Survived, but not unscathed. As we learned with Hillary, the constant pounding takes its toll, and if he isn’t gone by 2020, he will be so damaged that he will be unelectable, and he will take down anyone dumb enough to associate with him.

And yet…his approval rating is as high as it has been in about a year. Ironically, his drop in approval began right around the time he fired Comey and was compounded by his handling of Charlottesville. It has taken him about a year to recover. The fundamentals that would enable a president to get a second term are still present, though. The economy is strong and the US isn’t as yet on the losing end of an international political, military, or economic conflict Americans right now are still somewhat optimistic, which works in the president’s favor.

That being said, this is also why his trade war gambit is risky: sowing confusion and doubts in the markets is a big roll of the dice, and it could backfire. Hiring John Bolton, someone who is going to reinforce rather than challenge the president’s worst instincts and impulses, is also another potentially fatal mistake. And when economics and politics go south, then suddenly people begin paying a lot more attention to the background noise, like his relationships with strippers and nebulous business dealings.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19144 "2018-04-14T11:20:34Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I would say, “Piss on Trump and all his supporters,” but it’s obvious now that he would enjoy that, as would his supporters no doubt.

Tell them it’s liberal tears. They’ll beg for more.

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