# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 962
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19225 "2018-04-16T10:14:48Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Okay… Let’s all take a breath and not bring ourselves down to their level. > > It’s entirely possible that this was a situation room briefing on Syria leading up to the eventual decision to strike. It was taken days before, obviously, when Pence was in attendance. > > SHS may not be lying. About this specific thing. This one time. Let’s roll the tape, er, the tweet… > [@Hucky Boo Boo](#): > > **Last night** the President put our adversaries on notice: when he draws a red line he enforces it. (Inside the Situation Room as President is briefed on Syria - Official WH photos by Shealah Craighead) > (photo including the magically teleported Pence) > 6:31 PM - **14 Apr 2018** Sarah Sarah Pants on Fiah! One might argue that this is a mere trivial error of no significance. I cut them as much slack as they cut Obama for the “57 states” syllabobble (i.e. none). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19226 "2018-04-16T10:25:10Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Why not? It works for them and nobody gives a damn. Why keep taking the “high road” only to see it do no good? Insisting on taking the high road no matter what is the _reason_ the other side can take the low road with impunity. I recall Spider Robinson illustrating this point by citing the fight between Butch Cassidy and Harvey Logan in _Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid_. Butch asks Harvey to clarify the ground rules. Harvey says “no rules”. Butch immediately kicks him in the balls. This sort of thing is why people set limits defining acceptable and unacceptable attacks. The problem is that it doesn’t work when nobody is willing to punish violations of the rules by making the violator feel the consequences of throwing out the rulebook. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19227 "2018-04-16T11:16:48Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Okay… Let’s all take a breath and not bring ourselves down to their level. Please. :rolleyes: She was deceitful and she needs to be called to the carpet for being deceitful. She is a tough gal. She can handle us holding her accountable. We need to call these people out for what they are. Trump doesn’t misspeak. He lies. SHS doesn’t goof. She lies. They are liars. Benefit of the doubt must be earned, and they don’t deserve it. She knew what she was intimating by posting that photo. Fortunately for us, she wasn’t smart enough to pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19228 "2018-04-16T11:38:20Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > The dossier claimed Cohen met Russians and Eastern European hackers in Prague and discussed “how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers in Europe who had worked under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign.” I originally read “hackers” as “hookers”. The disturbing thing is that that might be true too. > [@SteveG1](#): > > Fuck Alex Jones, with a barb wire wrapped cactus. > [@NotFromOne](#): > > I’d pay a dollar to see that. Ah ha! Now who’s obsessed with sexual imagery? Liberal hypocrisy! > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > May did it because of domestic politics. She’s so badly stained by Brexit she has to look resolute. It’s not just Brexit; between that, her Foreign Secretary’s increasingly bizarre behavior and her having sold what soul she had to the DUP she’s desperate to do something that makes it look like she’s in control. Ironically, the big reason Obama didn’t intervene in Syria after the “red-line” issue was that he was planning a similar multilateral approach and then-PM David Cameron promised him that the UK would join the US. But the UK Parliament (still remembering the fiasco that was Iraq) said “Nuh-uh”, Cameron was forced to take back his promise and Obama was left overextended without the support he had planned on. Theresa May avoided this issue simply by not asking Parliament at all… which is already coming back to bite her on the backside. No idea what Macron’s reason was. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19229 "2018-04-16T12:32:10Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Let’s roll the tape, er, the tweet… > > Sarah Sarah Pants on Fiah! > > One might argue that this is a mere trivial error of no significance. I cut them as much slack as they cut Obama for the “57 states” syllabobble (i.e. none). In any other administration - I would see those 2 sentences being slightly unlrelated - sentence 1 being about ‘last nite’ - the aside (picture) being just that - a picture to show them discussing what was going to happen ‘last nite’ -she doesn’t specifically put a timeline on the picture itself. However, since this administration from before the election to now has zero regard for honesty - has below zero marks for credibility - every ‘spokersperson’ finds a way to argue and use ‘alternative facts to counter fake news’ - well - I’m not going to cut her any slack here - the way you fix this is to be ‘more precise’ - not less - in your comments. In fact - I wouldn’t doubt that it was intentionally done so that they could have yet another argument about how the ‘MSM’ are so unfair to them. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19230 "2018-04-16T13:02:20Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I originally read “hackers” as “hookers”. The disturbing thing is that that might be true too. Understandable since hackers and hookers are both important service providers in this administration. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19231 "2018-04-16T13:06:06Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > … > She was deceitful and she needs to be called to the carpet for being deceitful. She is a tough gal. She can handle us holding her accountable. > > We need to call these people out for what they are. Trump doesn’t misspeak. He lies. SHS doesn’t goof. She lies. They are liars. Benefit of the doubt must be earned, and they don’t deserve it. She knew what she was intimating by posting that photo. Fortunately for us, she wasn’t smart enough to pull it off. Calling everyone’s attention to blatant lying IS taking the high road. I hate that some people are still using euphemisms. Call it what it is: LYING. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19232 "2018-04-16T13:34:11Z")
This is also the Pit. I refuse to be diplomatic and polite in the fucking Pit. SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS IS A LYIN’ SACK OF SHIT. AND SO IS HER BOSS. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19233 "2018-04-16T13:55:30Z")
Don’t click [this link](https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/985728894828507137) unless you’ve got the brain bleach bucket handy. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19234 "2018-04-16T14:01:38Z")
The top of the Amazon Best Seller list: 1. A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership - James Comey 2. Fascism: A Warning - Madeleine Albright ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19235 "2018-04-16T14:08:18Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Don’t click [this link](https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/985728894828507137) unless you’ve got the brain bleach bucket handy. You are fucking kidding me? Did Melania tell him that, or did he grab his dad too? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19236 "2018-04-16T14:37:21Z")
"_Trump didn’t mean to expel 60 Russians President was furious and felt misled by aides, officials say"_ > **[The Washington Post - Breaking news and latest headlines, U.S. news, world...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/)** > > Breaking news, live coverage, investigations, analysis, video, photos and opinions from The Washington Post. Subscribe for the latest on U.S. and international news, politics, business, technology, climate change, health and wellness, sports,... > [@](#): > > President Trump seemed distracted in March as his aides briefed him at his Mar-a-Lago resort on the administration’s plan to expel 60 Russian diplomats and suspected spies. > > The United States, they explained, would be ousting roughly the same number of Russians as its European allies — part of a coordinated move to punish Moscow for the poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter on British soil. > > “We’ll match their numbers,” Trump instructed, according to a senior administration official. “We’re not taking the lead. We’re matching.” > > The next day, when the expulsions were announced publicly, Trump erupted, officials said. To his shock and dismay, France and Germany were each expelling only four Russian officials — far fewer than the 60 his administration had decided on. > > The president, who seemed to believe that other individual countries would largely equal the United States, was furious that his administration was being portrayed in the media as taking by far the toughest stance on Russia. > > His briefers tried to reassure him that the sum total of European expulsions was roughly the same as the U.S. number. > > “I don’t care about the total!” the administration official recalled Trump screaming. The official, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. > > Growing angrier, Trump insisted that his aides had misled him about the magnitude of the expulsions. “There were curse words,” the official said, “a lot of curse words.” > … The fourth word in this article tells all: _distracted_. When is the president NOT distracted? When is he capable of paying attention to and absorbing _anything_? And, as usual, blame someone else, _anyone else,_ when you can’t do your job. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19237 "2018-04-16T15:02:29Z")
> [@](#): > > the fourth word in this article tells all: Distracted. When is the president not distracted? squirrel! ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19238 "2018-04-16T15:20:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > "_Trump didn’t mean to expel 60 Russians > President was furious and felt misled by aides, officials say"_ > [https://wapo.st/2H2epu2I](https://wapo.st/2H2epu2I) > The fourth word in this article tells all: _distracted_. When is the president NOT distracted? When is he capable of paying attention to and absorbing _anything_? > > And, as usual, blame someone else, _anyone else,_ when you can’t do your job. I wondered what possible argument could have been made in order for Trump to do just one fucking thing right. Given the context, it makes perfect sense that he’d have to screw up in order to do the correct thing. What an incompetent asshole. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19239 "2018-04-16T15:22:13Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > This is also the Pit. I refuse to be diplomatic and polite in the fucking Pit. > > SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS IS A LYIN’ SACK OF SHIT. AND SO IS HER BOSS. Yeah, you’re right. I was feeling charitable this morning. Won’t happen again. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19240 "2018-04-16T16:13:54Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Don’t click [this link](https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/985728894828507137) unless you’ve got the brain bleach bucket handy. > [@Morgenstern](#): > > You are fucking kidding me? Did Melania tell him that, or did he grab his dad too? Of course I clicked. Did they measure? Why are they sharing this publicly? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19241 "2018-04-16T18:24:57Z")
Often, a dagger can perform a task better than a claymore. Depends on the skill of the, ah, swordsman. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19242 "2018-04-16T18:33:14Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > This is also the Pit. I refuse to be diplomatic and polite in the fucking Pit. > > SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS IS A LYIN’ SACK OF SHIT. AND SO IS HER BOSS. And the daughter of a preacher man too. She considered being a pusher but failed the ethics test. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19243 "2018-04-16T19:00:00Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > And the daughter of a preacher man too. Said preacher man is equally truth-challenged. Maybe it’s a family trait. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19244 "2018-04-16T19:03:54Z")
Can the clusterfuck get any more clusterfuckier? Sean Hannity is revealed to be Michael Cohen’s third actual bonafide client. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=961) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=963)