# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1921 "2017-03-08T11:59:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump is not going to do anything or promote any action that causes any large corporations to lose any money. 1. A Republican may not injure a corporation, or through inaction allow a corporation to come to harm. 2. A Republican must obey the orders of the deplorable voter base except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. A Republican must protect its own reelection as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1922 "2017-03-08T12:44:07Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > 1. A Republican may not injure a corporation, or through inaction allow a corporation to come to harm. > > 2. A Republican must obey the orders of the deplorable voter base except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. > > 3. A Republican must protect its own reelection as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws. Good one. I bet Asimov would have approved. [https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17190401\_10154447855606275\_4751552565104383719\_n.jpg?oh=d5dc788aab188706b698fdcb1c9ceaf6&oe=592E7BD2](https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17190401_10154447855606275_4751552565104383719_n.jpg?oh=d5dc788aab188706b698fdcb1c9ceaf6&oe=592E7BD2) ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1923 "2017-03-08T13:37:56Z")
I think 2 and 3 should be reversed. And you forgot the Zeroth Law: A Republican must take whichever course will garner the most money. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1924 "2017-03-08T14:37:32Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I think 2 and 3 should be reversed. I think my order fits better, partly to preserve the parody parallels and partly from the record of Republicans doubling down on nativist/Talibornagain/etc stupidity (Law 2) even when it’s painfully obvious that it’s a losing position politically (Law 3) (e.g. Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1925 "2017-03-08T20:39:10Z")
Here is an [entertaining article](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/us/politics/scott-pruitt-environmental-protection-agency.html?_r=0) regarding whatz coming down the road (like beginning next week) with the EPA. “One transition official has publicly praised the benefits of _increasing_ carbon dioxide.” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1926 "2017-03-08T20:41:37Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > “One transition official has publicly praised\* the benefits\* of increasing carbon dioxide.” :smack: “Our citizens will have the strongest lungs on the planet from having to work harder just to get enough oxygen! It’s like a 24/7 crossfit for your lungs!” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1927 "2017-03-08T20:53:21Z")
[CBP is considering a policy of separating parents from their children at the border “to deter mothers from migrating to the United States with their children”](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-mexico-border-department-of-homeland-security-women-children-a7612091.html) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1928 "2017-03-08T22:04:31Z")
Remember that lying sack-o-shit Monica Crowley? She now says she[was a victim after it was discovered she plagiarized thousands of words.](http://www.salon.com/2017/03/08/political-hit-job-monica-crowley-says-she-was-a-victim-after-it-was-discovered-she-plagiarized-thousands-of-words/) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1929 "2017-03-08T22:11:11Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > [http://www.salon.com/2017/03/08/political-hit-job-monica-crowley-says-she-was-a-victim-after-it-was-discovered-she-plagiarized-thousands-of-words](http://www.salon.com/2017/03/08/political-hit-job-monica-crowley-says-she-was-a-victim-after-it-was-discovered-she-plagiarized-thousands-of-words) “…Donald Trump is an alien organism…” :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1930 "2017-03-08T22:42:56Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > “…Donald Trump is an alien organism…” :eek: 😃 So she just **plagiarized** from the screenplay of the movie Alien! Christ!!! :smack: I guess she just can’t help it. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1931 "2017-03-09T00:07:24Z")
I think this might be the first time I’ve seen ‘pathogenic’ as a defense of someone. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1932 "2017-03-09T01:29:36Z")
This is ALL that matters to House Republicans. Nothing else about Trump, his so-called policies, his behavior, his tweets, his lies-- nothing matters except _“House Republicans set fundraising record in President Trump’s first full month”_ [http://wapo.st/2nciDAW](http://wapo.st/2nciDAW) > [@](#): > > President Trump has been very good for Republican congressional fundraising. > > The National Republican Congressional Committee said Wednesday that it raised a record $10.5 million in February — the first full month of solid GOP control in Washington, with Republicans running the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives. That is more than double the $5 million that the NRCC, the committee charged with electing Republicans to the House, raised in the last February of a non-election year. > > That haul follows another record month for the NRCC in January, in whichthe committee raised $10 million. That outpaced thecommittee’s counterparts at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who reported raising $7.8 million in January… Even if it’s a case of [_post hoc, ergo propter hoc_](http://skepdic.com/posthoc.html). Doesn’t matter. Right now he’s the gander that’s shitting golden eggs. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1933 "2017-03-09T02:24:49Z")
> [@skywatcher](#): > > “…donald trump is an alien organism…” :eek: :d they live!!! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1934 "2017-03-09T02:33:14Z")
If you were plotting how to weaken the USA from within, wouldn’t slashing the State Department (relations with other nations) and the Coast Guard (interdiction) be two top priorities? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1935 "2017-03-09T05:44:29Z")
One of Trump’s Labor Department appointees, who doesn’t need Congressional approval, is a recent high school graduate. > **[Trump Department of Labor Appointee Apparently Graduated From High School in...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/03/trump-labor-department-appointee-is-recent-high-school-grad.html)** > > The investigative site ProPublica has a report out Wednesday on some 400 individuals whom the Trump administration has appointed to executive branch... ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1936 "2017-03-09T06:14:33Z")
It appears that you ultraliberal leftists still can’t get over the fact that President Trump is president, and he is indeed doing a great job with his conservative agenda, as well as carrying out everything he said he would do. So far, Trump has: \*Repealed an Obama-era coal stream rule that would have resulted in the loss of jobs for tens of thousands of coal workers, in addition to the thousands already out of work \*Signed an executive order reinstating the Mexico City Policy, which bans the funding of international health organizations that perform or promote the abortions of unborn children \*Nominated the excellent Neil Gorsuch, a solid conservative jurist who will uphold the Constitution’s original meaning as written, to replace the late, great Antonin Scalia. \*Presided over record-breaking stock market rallies, which have been coined the “Trump rallies”. \*Given the ICE free reign to crack down on illegal aliens, particularly the criminal ones. Specifically, he unleashed them and gave them more power to apprehend aliens who were given a free pass simply because they hadn’t committed any violent crimes yet. The results are showing. In mid-February, the ICE rounded up 700 illegal aliens alone, 75 percent of whom had criminal records (they’re not all warm and fuzzy, as the Left would have us believe). \*coordinating the investing of billions of dollars into the United States with companies such as General Motors, Softbank Lockheed, etc. which will create tens of thousands of jobs. \*Repealed a ridiculous last-day rule passed by the Obama administration which banned wildlife hunters from using lead bullets, despite the fact that it would cause thousands to stop hunting because of the high price of non-lead ammo, and the fact that scientific studies don’t show any real long-term harm to wildlife from using them when hunting. Last but not least, as was reported yesterday by Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, the number of illegal southern border crossings decreased by a whopping 40% in February—a stunning achievement. I confess: I am a conservative Republican, I voted for Trump, and I am absolutely satisfied by what I see so far, and I am overjoyed by what the next four years will bring. I can tell the majority of straightdope people are liberals, and I respect their beliefs, but not their distortions of Trump. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1937 "2017-03-09T06:31:42Z")
Indeed, those Conservative Republicans are [really enthused](https://www.axios.com/conservative-websites-go-to-war-against-trumpcare-2305126564.html) about Trumpcare. > [@](#): > > Influential right-wing websites are beating the daylights out of the Obamacare replacement plan developed by the House Republican leadership and the Trump administration. > > Why this matters: Trump, Ryan and co. were already going to have a hard time selling their plan to right flank of the House and Senate. The last thing they need is a conservative media war against them. You can bet that someone’s going to walk into the President’s office during the next 24 hours with a print out of the Breitbart stories. It’ll be interesting to see whether he stays the course against the backlash. > > Breitbart is taking the most aggressive stance against the Obamacare replacement bill, closely followed by the website Conservative Review — which is seen in conservative circles as being close to Ted Cruz. I seem to remember when Conservatives would have disapproved of a President with ties to a foreign government. One given to senile ravings. But Wm F Buckley is long gone… Leon Panetta, one of them “ultraliberal leftists”, appeared on the CBS Evening News tonight. In essence, he was asked if Trump was nuts. In essence, he said “yes.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1938 "2017-03-09T06:36:40Z")
Supporting science and opposing torture are ultraliberal leftist positions now, are they? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1939 "2017-03-09T06:39:17Z")
As you damn well know, Trump has said that the Obamacare Replacement bill is open to “review and negotiation.” As well it should be. I believe Paul Ryan really screwed the pooch on this one, although I have high respect for him. It’s bad because in its current form it keeps the Obamacare expansion, doesn’t allow selling of healthcare across state lines, etc. But the process isn’t done yet. The final product will be much better; the Freedom Caucus in the House and Rand Paul and Mike Lee in the Senate are very principled conservatives and won’t allow this Obamacare-Lite to pass. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1940 "2017-03-09T06:41:47Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Supporting science and opposing torture are ultraliberal leftist positions now, are they? I believe in climate change, and I believe the Bush administration’s torture programs (euphemistically called enhanced interrogation) were wrong. I just don’t think that we should pass high, burdensome taxes and regulations, to deal with climate change, regulations and taxes that will have a ruinous effect on the business community, particularly coal country and all its hardworkers. Despite what the Left would have you believe, conservative Republicans like myself do believe the climate is changing; we just don’t believe that to deal with it we should destroy the livelihoods of tens of thousands of hardworking coal workers to do it, workers who produce material that is so vital to everyday Americans’ lives. If a carbon tax was passed, thousands of jobs in the coal industry would fizzle, some coal plants would shut down, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=98)