# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19485 "2018-04-23T19:38:50Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> More grownup behavior:
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> [Thank Trump, or You’ll Be Sorry](https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAwd3rV?m=en-us)  
> (My italics.) In a rare moment of graciousness, I’ll ignore the fact that the misplaced quotation marks in that tweet screw up what he intends to say. Should be Not surprising, as punctuation is very hard. All those little squiggles–what do they mean anyway? The article continues:Like his one-way loyalty. Well, when he’s good at something, he’s really good at it. :dubious:

He can take his “gratitude” and shove it up his fat ass.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19486 "2018-04-23T19:49:13Z")

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Meanwhile, in real life, the French President comes calling: [Trump To Host France's Emmanuel Macron For First State Visit : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2018/04/23/604672538/a-close-personal-relationship-under-pressure-as-trump-hosts-macron)

Apparently after the initial handshake battle ([Macron and Trump's two tense handshake battles – video | Donald Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/25/macron-trump-handshake-battle-video)) the two are now chums (Macron is where Trump got the idea for a military parade, after all), but there could be some interesting discussions testing that relationship:

> [@](#):
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> Macron is expected to press Trump for concessions on matters where the United States and France have not been aligned, including the U.S. military strategy in Syria, the Iran nuclear deal, and trade.

Of course, President Trump will be supported by his Secretary of State…oh wait…

Interesting times…

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19487 "2018-04-23T20:14:07Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Or your money back, folks.

At least TRY to be realistic. Trump has never refunded money to ANYONE.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19488 "2018-04-23T21:33:09Z")

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Maybe soon. Just read about how his $25 million settlement for Trump University has been “finalized”, so he’s supposed to cough it up.

Anybody else wondering if he actually \*has \*that much money, this billionaire?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19489 "2018-04-23T21:42:59Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Meanwhile, in real life, the French President comes calling: [Trump To Host France's Emmanuel Macron For First State Visit : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2018/04/23/604672538/a-close-personal-relationship-under-pressure-as-trump-hosts-macron)
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> Apparently after the initial handshake battle ([Macron and Trump's two tense handshake battles – video | Donald Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/25/macron-trump-handshake-battle-video)) the two are now chums (Macron is where Trump got the idea for a military parade, after all), but there could be some interesting discussions testing that relationship:
> 
> Of course, President Trump will be supported by his Secretary of State…oh wait…
> 
> Interesting times…

Watch him get rolled by the French.

“The check bounced for the Louisiana Purchase? And you want it back? Putin says you are a good guy, so there you are! It’s yours!”

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19490 "2018-04-24T05:05:25Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Meanwhile, in real life, the French President comes calling: [Trump To Host France's Emmanuel Macron For First State Visit : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2018/04/23/604672538/a-close-personal-relationship-under-pressure-as-trump-hosts-macron)
> 
> Apparently after the initial handshake battle ([Macron and Trump's two tense handshake battles – video | Donald Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/25/macron-trump-handshake-battle-video)) the two are now chums (Macron is where Trump got the idea for a military parade, after all), but there could be some interesting discussions testing that relationship:
> 
> Of course, President Trump will be supported by his Secretary of State…oh wait…
> 
> Interesting times…

I’ll be a fine mahogany nickel Macron will suavely bamboozle President Diseased Tennis Ass into reconsidering this whole “I never knew it would be this difficult” Iran thingie whatever.  
Looks like the news is finally getting to Lisa Desjardins - before she launches into the crazy-ass shenanigans involved in getting Pompeo _just barely_ voted into his new position, she gives a little shake of her head (not a very PBS-y thing to do!) and then at the end of her piece, she gives _another_ little shake of her head. With all the crap she has to deal with, right up close, I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s into, like, Tae Bo, or popping bubble wrap. Man she can fucking dish the goods, though. I’m trying to imagine a Brietbarter watching her and just, getting, this, sinking, feeling.

> **[On tonight's PBS NewsHour: Lisa Desjardins provides an update on Mike...](https://www.facebook.com/newshour/videos/10156418296963675)**
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> On tonight's PBS NewsHour: Lisa Desjardins provides an update on Mike Pompeo's nomination before the Senate. Then, Amy Walter of the Cook Political...

ETA - Heh - goofy that Rand would change his vote at the last minute thanks to a  
“reasurance” call from Dat Guy that MP’ll make a greeeeaat diplomat.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19491 "2018-04-24T05:11:16Z")

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And now the Ronny Jackson for VA Head nomination is in trouble.  
Official sources are not saying what the problems might be, but Jackson’s nomination is on hold. Steve Dorsey of CBS news said, “allegations against Ronny Jackson which include a hostile work environment, excessive drinking on the job and improperly dispensing meds.”

> <https://twitter.com/steve_dorsey/status/988588759997452288>

> **[Senate postpones confirmation hearing for Ronny Jackson, Trump’s pick for VA...](https://www.vox.com/2018/4/23/17273622/ronny-jackson-veterans-affairs-secretary-nominee)**
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> Vague allegations have added to senators’ concerns about his management qualifications.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19492 "2018-04-24T05:14:30Z")

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(and yeah I really wish I was a fine, _fine_ mahogany nickel)

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19493 "2018-04-24T05:38:58Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I don’t know how big a star Twain is anymore, and from my dim recollection of her in the 90s she struck me as more pop than country. But, still, a country singer having to distance herself from a Republican president due to fan backlash is pretty surprising.

She started country, did pop versions of the same songs which got very wide play (when The Bestest Boyfriend discovered her in the “alternative rock” station I laughed my ass off), hasn’t worked for years due to very serious throat problems. She also happens to be Canadian.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19494 "2018-04-24T05:41:28Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Maybe soon. Just read about how his $25 million settlement for Trump University has been “finalized”, so he’s supposed to cough it up.
> 
> Anybody else wondering if he actually \*has \*that much money, this billionaire?

Even money that he refuses to pay it or drags it out for several years. He’ll keep trying to bleed the opposition of money in his loss.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19495 "2018-04-24T06:15:00Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> …
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> ETA - Heh - goofy that Rand would change his vote at the last minute thanks to a  
> “reasurance” call from Dat Guy that MP’ll make a greeeeaat diplomat.

Good old Rand Paul, Mr. Principled; standing firm without regard to [del]bribes[/del] [del]background deals[/del] - shit, does he even have a spine?

McCain, Flake, Paul - loud and out front making the high-minded, virtuous stance. Toady collapse when the vote comes due.:mad:

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19496 "2018-04-24T06:40:43Z")

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I knew about the flag thing, but I wasn’t aware to the full extent what a useless, almost tweaked out, smug assclownface Robert Zenke was until seeing this [John Oliver](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HXNLGCTv60) segment.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19497 "2018-04-24T07:33:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And now the Ronny Jackson for VA Head nomination is in trouble.  
> Official sources are not saying what the problems might be, but Jackson’s nomination is on hold. Steve Dorsey of CBS news said, “allegations against Ronny Jackson which include a hostile work environment, excessive drinking on the job and improperly dispensing meds.”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/steve_dorsey/status/988588759997452288)  
> [Ronny Jackson: Senate delays hearing for Trump’s VA secretary nominee - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2018/4/23/17273622/ronny-jackson-veterans-affairs-secretary-nominee)

Shiiiiiiit…  
I’m never gonna work again if that’s all it takes to get a feller into trouble…

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19498 "2018-04-24T09:54:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And now the Ronny Jackson for VA Head nomination is in trouble.  
> Official sources are not saying what the problems might be, but Jackson’s nomination is on hold. Steve Dorsey of CBS news said, “allegations against Ronny Jackson which include a hostile work environment, excessive drinking on the job and improperly dispensing meds.”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/steve_dorsey/status/988588759997452288)  
> [Ronny Jackson: Senate delays hearing for Trump’s VA secretary nominee - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2018/4/23/17273622/ronny-jackson-veterans-affairs-secretary-nominee)

Only the best people, folks.

Only the best.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19499 "2018-04-24T09:57:01Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Maybe soon. Just read about how his $25 million settlement for Trump University has been “finalized”, so he’s supposed to cough it up.
> 
> Anybody else wondering if he actually \*has \*that much money, this billionaire?

But he’s a billionaire!

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19500 "2018-04-24T09:59:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And now the Ronny Jackson for VA Head nomination is in trouble.  
> Official sources are not saying what the problems might be, but Jackson’s nomination is on hold. Steve Dorsey of CBS news said, “allegations against Ronny Jackson which include a hostile work environment, excessive drinking on the job and improperly dispensing meds.”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/steve_dorsey/status/988588759997452288)  
> [Ronny Jackson: Senate delays hearing for Trump’s VA secretary nominee - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2018/4/23/17273622/ronny-jackson-veterans-affairs-secretary-nominee)

Perhaps that explains why the dipshit cannot take an accurate weight. How does one get to be an admiral while having all these issues?

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19501 "2018-04-24T11:38:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And now the Ronny Jackson for VA Head nomination is in trouble.  
> Official sources are not saying what the problems might be, but Jackson’s nomination is on hold. Steve Dorsey of CBS news said, “allegations against Ronny Jackson which include a hostile work environment, excessive drinking on the job and improperly dispensing meds.”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/steve_dorsey/status/988588759997452288)  
> [Ronny Jackson: Senate delays hearing for Trump’s VA secretary nominee - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2018/4/23/17273622/ronny-jackson-veterans-affairs-secretary-nominee)

Wow, it’s like Trump has some kind of psychic power that lets him locate sleazy people so he can recruit them.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19502 "2018-04-24T11:40:35Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Official sources are not saying what the problems might be, but Jackson’s nomination is on hold. Steve Dorsey of CBS news said, “allegations against Ronny Jackson which include a hostile work environment, excessive drinking on the job and improperly dispensing meds.”

What line of work do I need to get into where there’s an _unexcessive_ amount of drinking on the job?

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19503 "2018-04-24T12:17:32Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> I knew about the flag thing, but I wasn’t aware to the full extent what a useless, almost tweaked out, smug assclownface Robert Zenke was until seeing this [John Oliver](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HXNLGCTv60) segment.

Hey now, I bet you can’t throw the Vice President’s wife around like an unbleached bag of flour half as dashingly as Mr Zinke.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19504 "2018-04-24T12:21:48Z")

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My word, I knew Bolton was foul but this …

He was, until his appointment as NatSec Advisor, the chairman of the Gatestone Institute, an anti-Muslim think tank.

Some of their headlines:

“Emmanuel Macron, Useful Idiot of Islamism”  
“Europe’s Childless Leaders Sleepwalking Us to Disaster”  
“Macron: President of the Elites and the Islamists”  
“Germany: Infectious Diseases Spreading as Migrants Settle In”  
“Is the United Kingdom an Islamist Colony?”  
“Europe: The Great White Death”

That’s … this man should not be holding any public office, ever, anywhere

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