# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19585 "2018-04-25T20:20:36Z")

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Ben Carson wants to triple the rent on people on housing assistance.

> **[Carson proposes rent increases for Americans on housing assistance](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384845-carson-to-propose-rent-increases-for-americans-receiving-housing/)**
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> Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Ben Carson on Wednesday unveiled a plan that would triple the rent for Americans on housing assistance, as well as impose work requirements for th…

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19586 "2018-04-25T20:22:00Z")

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Sometimes I’d like to take the “Yea” justices on Citizens United and just rub their noses in the mess they made.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19587 "2018-04-25T20:35:01Z")

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Jeezus, there’s reports that Trump’s VA pick is a car wreck.

No, really, there’s an allegation that he crashed a government car while drunk.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19588 "2018-04-25T20:36:32Z")

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How the Border Patrol counts their incidents when they report on an increase in assaults on Border Patrol agents. Take one incident, in which six people threw three items each at seven Patrol officers, and count it as 126 assaults.

> **[How the Border Patrol Faked Statistics Showing a 73 Percent Rise in Assaults...](https://theintercept.com/2018/04/23/border-patrol-agents-assaulted-cbp-fbi/)**
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> Customs and Border Protection has grossly inflated its data on assaults against Border Patrol agents.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19589 "2018-04-25T21:05:07Z")

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I just learned that ALL of you are no more than a 50th cousin of the trumpanzee. You’re remotely related to that bastard.

I had to come to the pit to say that because some would consider it an insult.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19590 "2018-04-25T21:09:53Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Jeezus, there’s reports that Trump’s VA pick is a car wreck.
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> No, really, there’s an allegation that he crashed a government car while drunk.

I commented to a veteran friend that if Trump really cared about veterans, as he falsely claims he does, he should had worried a bit about vetting the people that will manage the VA.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19591 "2018-04-25T21:09:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And the voice of the turtle is heard in the land. Cow goes “Moo”, doggy goes “Bow-wow”, turtle goes “Oink!”.

Speaking of the turtle, why didn’t he go to the State Dinner?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19592 "2018-04-25T21:21:52Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> he would fit [in here](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/SpittingImage) without modification

Reminds me of that old “DC Follies” show.

> **[dc follies - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=dc%2Bfollies&prmd=vsin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwicqsDVrNbaAhVMgK0KHSWqANwQ_AUIFSgD&biw=360&bih=559)**

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19593 "2018-04-25T21:41:40Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Jeezus, there’s reports that Trump’s VA pick is a car wreck.
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> No, really, there’s an allegation that he crashed a government car while drunk.

The Democrats are somehow at fault, I’m sure.

Either the White House didn’t know all this about Ronny because they’re incompetent; or they knew and didn’t care because they’re grotesque and reprehensible.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19594 "2018-04-25T21:48:23Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Mick Mulvaney [talks about](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mick-mulvaney-lobbyists-who-pay_us_5adfed8ee4b061c0bfa2c06d) his approach to lobbyists… to a bunch of lobbyists.
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> ““We had a hierarchy in my office in Congress. If you’re a lobbyist who never gave us money, I didn’t talk to you. If you’re a lobbyist who gave us money, I might talk to you.”
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> As if his admission of a pay-to-play system in his former congressional office wasn’t enough for you, keep in mind the context: he was talking to the lobbying group, the American Bankers Association. He further described lobbying as one of the “fundamental underpinnings of our representative democracy. And you have to continue to do it.”
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> So, if you’re in the ABA audience, the message was:
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> 1. Lobbyist sans donations don’t get meetings.
> 2. Lobbyists with donations can get meetings.
> 3. You have to continue lobbying.
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> So… the Director of the Office of Management and Budget is telling you that you have to continue donating in order to do your job. That’s the only logical conclusion.
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> The ethics of this Administration are just beyond sickening.

and they feel safe in just saying it out loud, as in “I dare you to do anything about it”.

Fucking disgusting. They oughtta be in prison.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19595 "2018-04-25T21:50:24Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> One would \*like \*to think there was a time when lobbying including advocacy and education, not just bribery. And that there was a time when both lobbyists and lobbyees were not quite so open and proud of the latter part, or considered it the only part.

When you can’t even get the asshole to consider listening without some payola, it’s bribery.

The so called “Citizens United” needs to GO.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19596 "2018-04-25T21:50:29Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Speaking of the turtle, why didn’t he go to the State Dinner?

If his wife (Chao) was snubbed, he couldn’t really go even though he was invited; or at least it would have been awkward.

> [@](#):
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> Meanwhile, House Speaker Paul Ryan will be attending Tuesday night’s event, according to spokeswoman AshLee Strong. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was invited, according to spokesman David Popp, but will not be able to attend.

[https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/politics/congress-state-dinner-democrats/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/politics/congress-state-dinner-democrats/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19597 "2018-04-25T21:57:32Z")

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Trump’s Solicitor General, in his argument before the Supreme Court on defending the Muslim ban: “He has made crystal clear that Muslims in this country are great Americans and there are many, many Muslim countries who love this country and he has praised Islam as _ **one of the great countries of the world** _.”

> **[Trump lawyer: There’s no Muslim ban because Trump thinks Islam is ‘one of the...](https://thinkprogress.org/scotus-hearing-trump-lawyer-says-trump-praised-islam-one-of-the-greatest-countries-cd1ec5da4c17/)**
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> Well, that's a weird defense.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19598 "2018-04-25T21:59:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s Solicitor General, in his argument before the Supreme Court on defending the Muslim ban: “He has made crystal clear that Muslims in this country are great Americans and there are many, many Muslim countries who love this country and he has praised Islam as _ **one of the great countries of the world** _.”  
> [Trump lawyer: There’s no Muslim ban because Trump thinks Islam is ‘one of the greatest countries’ – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/scotus-hearing-trump-lawyer-says-trump-praised-islam-one-of-the-greatest-countries-cd1ec5da4c17/)

We all know this is just another damn lie. But it doesn’t matter.

That’s the hell of it.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19599 "2018-04-25T22:25:45Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> We all know this is just another damn lie.

What was slightly more surprising to me than the lying was the apparent belief that Islam is a country.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19600 "2018-04-25T22:28:08Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ben Carson wants to triple the rent on people on housing assistance.  
> [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384845-carson-to-propose-rent-increases-for-americans-receiving-housing](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384845-carson-to-propose-rent-increases-for-americans-receiving-housing)

To his credit, the new rules - rent increases are just the start - will greatly shorten the wait list.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19601 "2018-04-25T22:41:09Z")

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Islam is a country?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19602 "2018-04-25T22:56:11Z")

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Well, Islamabad is a city, so, uh …

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19603 "2018-04-25T23:02:27Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I just learned that ALL of you are no more than a 50th cousin of the trumpanzee. You’re remotely related to that bastard.
> 
> I had to come to the pit to say that because some would consider it an insult.

Some? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19604 "2018-04-26T00:03:27Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Jeezus, there’s reports that Trump’s VA pick is a car wreck.
> 
> No, really, there’s an allegation that he crashed a government car while drunk.

I heard today that on a trip he got drunk and started banging on the hotel door of a woman in the entourage.  
No doubt Trump said “see, I told you he was qualified for my administration.”

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