# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19625 "2018-04-26T13:41:51Z")

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This is pretty funny (from the interview): “I don’t watch them at all!” Trump replied, before going into detail about a CNN show that he watched on Wednesday night.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19626 "2018-04-26T14:21:16Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Donald’s favorite drunk-driving pill-pushing physical-falsifying doctor dropped out of the VA cabinet nomination. About time.

I’m not defending the alleged bad behavior of the guy, but I really do have a problem with the media insisting on referring to him as “Ronny”. The guy is a Rear Admiral who served honorably in the past tending to injured war casualties. It’s disrespectful to refer to him as anything other than doctor or by his rank. It sounds like he was a nightmare to work for, but that doesn’t take away from his accomplishments or service.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19627 "2018-04-26T14:28:12Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Fox and Friends interview is a must listen. Grandpa Ranty is [starting to sound crazy](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-stayed-overnight-in-moscow-russia-steele-dossier-2018-4). Among the highlights, his proof that Comey is lying is that Comey claims that Trump didn’t stay the night in Russia, but that’s a lie, because obviously he spent the night in Russia. Leaving out the part that Comey is making no such claim. Comey’s claim is that Trump says he never spent the night in Russia.

The mind boggles at the brazenness of this liar.

And, like a mob leader who grins when asked if he’s criminal since everyone knows it anyway, he is proud that his lawyer “won’t flip.”

But Trump is a nobody. You can watch any Fox “News” show and see people with politics just as ugly as Trump’s, go to any penitentiary and find people just as criminal, go to any insane asylum or GOP convention and find liars just as compulsive. What really boggles is that even now, after all of this, _Trump would be re-elected in a landslide if only whites were allowed to vote._

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19628 "2018-04-26T14:35:59Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Trump [also has a non-existent phony cloud over his head](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/trump-just-gave-batsht-crazy-fox-news-interview-6-bonkers-moments/).

Maybe it’s a braincloud. I hear jumping into a live volcano is good for that sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19629 "2018-04-26T14:43:41Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> It’s disrespectful to refer to him as anything other than doctor or by his rank.

If it’s his name, it’s his name. Nothing wrong with using it.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19630 "2018-04-26T14:43:54Z")

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Don’t listen to the interview. Watch it. You can see on their faces that even the Fox and Friends crew realize that they’ve created a monster that they can no longer control. They actually cut off the interview at the end. Can you imagine a news organization stopping a president who is willing to speak that freely about important issues?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19631 "2018-04-26T14:46:38Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m not defending the alleged bad behavior of the guy, but I really do have a problem with the media insisting on referring to him as “Ronny”.

Trump was on Fox and Friends this morning and said Jackson was known as “Doc Ronny” around the White House.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19632 "2018-04-26T14:48:44Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> What was slightly more surprising to me than the lying was the apparent belief that Islam is a country.

Just like Africa, right?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19633 "2018-04-26T14:49:05Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m not defending the alleged bad behavior of the guy, but I really do have a problem with the media insisting on referring to him as “Ronny”. The guy is a Rear Admiral who served honorably in the past tending to injured war casualties. It’s disrespectful to refer to him as anything other than doctor or by his rank. It sounds like he was a nightmare to work for, but that doesn’t take away from his accomplishments or service.

I can see where you’re coming from but I don’t share that view. Maybe he treated wounded servicemen and did so honorably. All fine and good, but he’s been thrust into a situation where neither his military service nor his degree are relevant. He was going to head a huge department, not provide medical services to it. The position he was vying for is a civilian one, not a military one. The way I see it, when you’re looking to take a job with neither military nor medical roles, then it isn’t disrespectful to omit the titles. Similarly, it’s Ben Carson in charge of HUD, not Dr. Carson.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19634 "2018-04-26T14:53:04Z")

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It’s always ok to omit titles unless you’re describing a job function.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19635 "2018-04-26T14:54:49Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Don’t listen to the interview. Watch it. You can see on their faces that even the Fox and Friends crew realize that they’ve created a monster that they can no longer control. They actually cut off the interview at the end. Can you imagine a news organization stopping a president who is willing to speak that freely about important issues?

Yep. When he started ranting about “fake news CNN feeding questions to Hillary”, you could tell they weren’t happy and said something like “don’t worry about them”.

He is like that old farmer sitting at the bar that’s been over-served and won’t shut the fuck up. Unfortunately, I live in an area with too many of these dumbshits and the idiot that called into fox&friends would fit in perfectly at that bar.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19636 "2018-04-26T15:03:13Z")

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> [@Ruken](#):
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> It’s always ok to omit titles unless you’re describing a job function.

His present job function is as head of White House medical staff. He also wears his uniform to work.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19637 "2018-04-26T15:06:46Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Yep. When he started ranting about “fake news CNN feeding questions to Hillary”, you could tell they weren’t happy and said something like “don’t worry about them”.
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> He is like that old farmer sitting at the bar that’s been over-served and won’t shut the fuck up. Unfortunately, I live in an area with too many of these dumbshits and the idiot that called into fox&friends would fit in perfectly at that bar.

Around here, it’s the old farmers sitting around McDonalds through breakfast and lunchtime (since this small town doesn’t have anyplace else for them to go). It’s worse when you realize that no, they haven’t been drinking, that’s their 24-hour a day voice.

That’s who I hear when Trump speaks as he did during the Fox “interview”; a rambling old fart, spouting half-truth rants about whatever pops in his head next.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19638 "2018-04-26T15:08:26Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> His present job function is as head of White House medical staff. He also wears his uniform to work.

It’s still OK to refer to the Pres as Donny though, right? 😃

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19639 "2018-04-26T15:14:31Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> His present job function is as head of White House medical staff. He also wears his uniform to work.

And since we know that, no further disambiguation is required.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19640 "2018-04-26T15:15:33Z")

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E.g. we have PA Sean and Engineer Sean in my office.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19641 "2018-04-26T15:45:33Z")

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“_I have attorneys, I’m sorry to say, I have lots of attorneys, I have so many attorneys, you wouldn’t believe it._”

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19642 "2018-04-26T15:46:55Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Donald’s favorite drunk-driving pill-pushing physical-falsifying doctor dropped out of the VA cabinet nomination. About time.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m not defending the alleged bad behavior of the guy, but I really do have a problem with the media insisting on referring to him as “Ronny”. The guy is a Rear Admiral who served honorably in the past tending to injured war casualties. It’s disrespectful to refer to him as anything other than doctor or by his rank. It sounds like he was a nightmare to work for, but that doesn’t take away from his accomplishments or service.

Well, I think you have a point, but it is like saying that the bitter, jealous, turncoat, backstabber, betrayer, Brutus, double-crosser, Judas of a traitor Benedict Arnold should be referred to as a Major General who served honorably until that little detail… (And I had to look at what rank he had; when mentioned, that is not what many do remember about that guy).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19643 "2018-04-26T16:09:25Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> It’s still OK to refer to the Pres as Donny though, right? 😃

He certainly is out of his element. Shutting the fuck up is still a problem, though.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19644 "2018-04-26T16:10:59Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “_I have attorneys, I’m sorry to say, I have lots of attorneys, I have so many attorneys, you wouldn’t believe it._”

Soon to be [“I have the worst fucking attorneys.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75iv3RKQUAM)

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