# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19685 "2018-04-28T17:06:27Z")

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Look what God did to Herod, and think getting flash fried by a thunderbolt is merciful.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19686 "2018-04-28T17:10:50Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> That only proves he has bad aim.

Reminds me of the priest and the atheist bowling together. The atheist keeps on making splits, and missing them, and yells “God damn it, I missed one” after each ball.  
The priest warns him that God will be angry at his outbursts.  
The priest is right. A bolt of lightning comes down - and hits the priest.  
A godly voice yells “Damn it, I missed one!”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19687 "2018-04-28T18:07:33Z")

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British fans are trying to get Green Day’s “American Idiot” number one on the charts for Trump’s UK visit.  
[https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/green\_day\_fans\_american\_idiot\_number\_1\_trump\_uk\_visit](https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/green_day_fans_american_idiot_number_1_trump_uk_visit)

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19688 "2018-04-28T19:52:08Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> British fans are trying to get Green Day’s “American Idiot” number one on the charts for Trump’s UK visit.  
> [404](https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/green_day_fans_american_idiot_number_1_trump_uk_visit)

Prediction: преЦАРдент Trump will wuss out again on a Brit visit, for Rodney Dangerfield reasons.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19689 "2018-04-28T20:24:57Z")

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Trump [shows his famous sensitivity to the disabled](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paralympic-games-organizers-respond-insensitive-trump-remarks-article-1.3960678) in his remarks to visiting Paralympic Games athletes:

> [@](#):
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> “And I watched — it’s a little tough to watch too much, but I watched as much as I could,” Trump said from the White House.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19690 "2018-04-28T21:40:50Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Prediction: преЦАРдент Trump will wuss out again on a Brit visit, for Rodney Dangerfield reasons.

Word is he would face massive crowds of non-fans, if he went. So I’d guess you’re right about the wuss-out.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19691 "2018-04-28T21:42:52Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Trump [shows his famous sensitivity to the disabled](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paralympic-games-organizers-respond-insensitive-trump-remarks-article-1.3960678) in his remarks to visiting Paralympic Games athletes:  
> :smack:

Just gratuitous ugliness.

Shame on his defenders. Shame on them.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19692 "2018-04-28T21:53:07Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Remember when we all thought Sarah Palin was a joke? At least she had the good grace to be stinking drunk half the time. What’s Trump’s excuse?

Back in 2016, after Spanky had won the nomination, the Chicago Tribune (which typically skews a little to the right) ran an editorial by a member of their board (who typically skews more than a little to the right). In it he said (quote not exact – I’m going from memory):

“The Republicans sold their souls to the devil with Sarah Palin. Now, with Donald Trump, he’s here to collect.”

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19693 "2018-04-28T21:55:45Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Next time, he’ll claim to be a Trump supporter named John Barron.

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but it struck me for the first time just the other day. Spanky pretended to be his own PR person and named himself John Barron. Then he had a son and named hin Barron. Am I the only one who finds that kinda creepy?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19694 "2018-04-28T22:09:41Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> I’m sure this has been discussed before, but it struck me for the first time just the other day. Spanky pretended to be his own PR person and named himself John Barron. Then he had a son and named hin Barron. Am I the only one who finds that kinda creepy?

Creepy went off the rails some time ago. Regarding his “hot” daughter and how he could see himself dating her if that was not the case.:eek:

> **[All Donald Trump's creepiest comments about his daughter Ivanka](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html)**
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> 'If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her'

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19695 "2018-04-28T22:13:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> They’re probably NOT that much fun to watch, but maybe if we can talk the America-hating fuckstick to take Amtrak over to Old Blighty, this could be the exception.
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> We could even give it one of those coal-burning steam locomotives and let him believe he’s supporting the miners…

Is that the Amtrak run they call “Flying Dutchman”?

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19696 "2018-04-29T21:54:47Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Is that the Amtrak run they call “Flying Dutchman”?

Nah, he won’t take the train that goes to the land of those dope-smoking commies in Dutchland. (Think he knows the Dutch live in The Netherlands?)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19697 "2018-04-29T21:58:46Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> … (Think he knows the Dutch live in The Netherlands?)

He probably thinks they live in the Nether Regions.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19698 "2018-04-29T22:33:58Z")

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Novelist Brad Thor says he will run in the Republican primaries against Trump if another conservative doesn’t jump in.

> **[Best-selling author says he will challenge Trump in 2020](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/385362-bestselling-author-says-he-will-challenge-trump-in-2020/?__twitter_impression=true)**
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> Brad Thor, a best-selling author, said last week that he plans to challenge President Trump in 2020, “if no conservative steps up.”Thor, a conservative who has voiced criticis…

I might even have to vote for President Thor.  
😃

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19699 "2018-04-29T23:11:49Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Just gratuitous ugliness.
> 
> Shame on his defenders. Shame on them.

They can’t be shamed. They revel in shit. The worse the better. They finally have a ‘leader’ that does the same.

This is clear as day.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19700 "2018-04-29T23:20:14Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Trump [shows his famous sensitivity to the disabled](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paralympic-games-organizers-respond-insensitive-trump-remarks-article-1.3960678) in his remarks to visiting Paralympic Games athletes

It could mean he had more pressing things to do than watch TV, but all he does is watch TV.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19701 "2018-04-30T00:23:09Z")

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Of course it was hard for Trump to watch the Paralympics. It lasts for hours and they don’t mention his name once.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19702 "2018-04-30T01:01:49Z")

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…there has been a complete and utter over-reaction from the press today regarding Michelle Wolf’s routine at the White House Correspondents Dinner. Here is just a handful of the reactions:

> [@Maggie Haberman](#):
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> That @PressSec sat and absorbed intense criticism of her physical appearance, her job performance, and so forth, instead of walking out, on national television, was impressive.

> [@Chris Cillizza](#):
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> Being funny is one thing. Bullying people because you can is another. And Wolf’s treatment of Sanders was bullying.

> [@John Roberts](#):
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> Very disappointed in the #WHCA leadership. They complain about the President’s denigrating missives, then they hire someone to do the same thing. I thought - as an Association - that we were better than that.

> [@Greta Van Susteren](#):
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> Will #WHCA Pres @margarettalev of #Bloomberg publicly apologize tomorrow at the WH Press Briefing? She and all the other Board Members of #WHCA should resign and get new Board as they knew what they were doing when they hired that comedian …makes all journos look bad

> [@Andrea Mitchell](#):
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> Apology is owed to @PressSec and others grossly insulted ny Michelle Wolf at White House Correspondents Assoc dinner which started with uplifting heartfelt speech by @margarettalev - comedian was worst since Imus insulted Clinton’s

> [@White House Correspondents' Association president Margaret Talev](#):
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> “My goal in putting together last night’s dinner was to unify the room and the country around journalism and the First Amendment, and I shared what I believe about those subjects in my own remarks
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> …
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> “Some of them made me uncomfortable and did not embody the spirit of the night.

> [@Peter Baker](#):
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> Unfortunately, I don’t think we advanced the cause of journalism tonight.

> [@Mika Brzezinski](#):
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> Watching a wife and mother be humiliated on national television for her looks is deplorable. I have experienced insults about my appearance from the president. All women have a duty to unite when these attacks happen and the WHCA owes Sarah an apology.

And meanwhile…the President of the United States had this to say about the media:

> [@Trump](#):
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> These people, they hate your guts

> **['They hate your guts': Trump attacks media and Democrats at Michigan rally](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/29/donald-trump-michigan-rally)**
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> Trump staged the event on the same night comedian Michelle Wolf roasted the president’s administration at the media dinner in Washington

America: you guys are in fucking trouble. Just look at what how your media is complicit with this administration. Look at how they have framed this story. Look how normalised Trumps behaviour has become.

Kathy Griffin surprisingly had the best take of the day for me. You can read her entire tweet-storm here:

> <https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/990651595905028096>

But this resonated:

> [@Kathy Griffin](#):
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> F) Enough with holding everyone else but the President of the United States and his staff to higher standards. This does not mean i don’t recognize that investigative journalists at the NYT and WAPO etc are doing their part to expose this administration…what I’m concerned about.
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> …
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> G) Is that journalists often say they can’t use certain language about Trump because they have to be objective. Fine. But they’re willing to use words like “mean” about a comic’s act? How is it objective to offer subjective commentary about a comic’s joke’s about POTUS?
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> …
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> H) Trump chooses not to attend the #WHCD - instead the White House said Sarah Sanders was attending in his place. She sat on the dais where the President usually sits. So of course she was going to get some of the toughest jokes, she was Trump’s proxy.
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> N) So journalists are willing to demand that a comic hired to roast people apologize but they aren’t willing to demand that Trump or his staff apologize to people? Is that where we’re at now? Can someone explain the difference to me?
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> S) Stop acting like @michelleisawolf showed up at the playground and started making fun of Sarah Sanders in front of her children. Sarah was there representing Trump, on the dais, at an event with a professional comic who was hired to do a roast.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19703 "2018-04-30T03:19:37Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …there has been a complete and utter over-reaction from the press today regarding Michelle Wolf’s routine at the White House Correspondents Dinner.

I actually felt bad for SHS, it seemed like she was about to cry.  
In comparison Hannity was let waaay too easy.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19704 "2018-04-30T03:35:27Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> I actually felt bad for SHS, it seemed like she was about to cry.  
> In comparison Hannity was let waaay too easy.

…Sarah Huckabee Sanders is paid by the US government to spout propaganda to the American people. She was at the dinner last night in lieu of the President of the United States of America. If you were feeling bad for SHS then your feelings are completely misplaced. As bad as Hannity is, at least he’s upfront about being bad and he has jack-shit to do with any of this. Look at the journalists demanding apologies from a comedian. Who’s side do you think they are really on?

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