# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19705 "2018-04-30T05:44:02Z")

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Okay, I read the transcript of Ms Wolf’s remarks. Unless she went seriously off-script, it didn’t seem especially egregious, making-fun-of-SHS’s-appearance-wise.

I dunno, maybe the character from _A Handmaid’s Tale_ she compared SHS to is some kind of hideous elder god, or something. That would be cruel.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19706 "2018-04-30T05:58:45Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> That would be cruel.

Probably, but I figure Cthulhu can take it.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19707 "2018-04-30T06:06:20Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …Sarah Huckabee Sanders is paid by the US government to spout propaganda to the American people. She was at the dinner last night in lieu of the President of the United States of America. If you were feeling bad for SHS then your feelings are completely misplaced. As bad as Hannity is, at least he’s upfront about being bad and he has jack-shit to do with any of this. Look at the journalists demanding apologies from a comedian. Who’s side do you think they are really on?

There is plenty of material about her to use without getting into the mean girls realm. The cracks about finally going to the prom was contemptible.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19708 "2018-04-30T06:08:49Z")

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I found Wolf’s remarks humorous and appropriate. Would there have been as much of an outcry if the comic had been a man? CNN today even showed some equally “inappropriate” remarks delivered at the event in the past during the Clinton and I think it was the Bush II presidencies, and no one blinked an eye, and this with the presidents in the room.

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**Author:** ![Dorabella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@Dorabella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorabella)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19709 "2018-04-30T06:11:31Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Okay, I read the transcript of Ms Wolf’s remarks. Unless she went seriously off-script, it didn’t seem especially egregious, making-fun-of-SHS’s-appearance-wise.
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> I dunno, maybe the character from _A Handmaid’s Tale_ she compared SHS to is some kind of hideous elder god, or something. That would be cruel.

I listened to it on Youtube and when she said the line: “burns facts and she uses ash to create a perfect smokey eye”. I thought she said ‘burns fats’. As SHS is somewhat pudgy that seemed a bit mean. I was wrong but maybe other people misheard that word too. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19710 "2018-04-30T06:16:05Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> There is plenty of material about her to use without getting into the mean girls realm. The cracks about finally going to the prom was contemptible.

And completely missing from the transcript I read. [http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2018/04/29/michelle-wolf-at-2018-white-house-correspondents-dinner/](http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2018/04/29/michelle-wolf-at-2018-white-house-correspondents-dinner/)

Can anyone find the actual transcript online? Pretty please?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19711 "2018-04-30T06:19:30Z")

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> [@Dorabella](#):
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> I listened to it on Youtube and when she said the line: “burns facts and she uses ash to create a perfect smokey eye”. I thought she said ‘burns fats’. As SHS is somewhat pudgy that seemed a bit mean. I was wrong but maybe other people misheard that word too. :dubious:

Burning fats don’t tend to leave a lot of ash. That’s why candles are so popular…

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19712 "2018-04-30T06:41:49Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> There is plenty of material about her to use without getting into the mean girls realm. The cracks about finally going to the prom was contemptible.

…“mean girls realm?” “Contemptible?”

You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. What “crack” about the prom are you talking about? What did Wolf say that was any worse than what any other comedian has said at the White House Correspondents Dinner? Worse than Joel Mchale and his fat jokes?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19713 "2018-04-30T06:51:54Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I dunno, maybe the character from _A Handmaid’s Tale_ she compared SHS to is some kind of hideous elder god, or something. That would be cruel.

She said “Aunt Lydia”. Apparently, the “Aunts” were women who had power over other women and were involved in training them to their assigned roles. So, whatever you can make of that.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19714 "2018-04-30T06:52:16Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> And completely missing from the transcript I read. [http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2018/04/29/michelle-wolf-at-2018-white-house-correspondents-dinner/](http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2018/04/29/michelle-wolf-at-2018-white-house-correspondents-dinner/)
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> Can anyone find the actual transcript online? Pretty please?

The Washington Post has a transcript (annotated). Here’s the full text of their transcript as it pertains to SHS:

> [@](#):
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> And, of course, we have Sarah Huckabee Sanders. We’re graced with Sarah’s presence tonight. I have to say I’m a little star-struck. I love you as Aunt Lydia in “The Handmaid’s Tale.”
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> Mike Pence, if you haven’t seen it, you would love it.
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> Every time Sarah steps up to the podium, I get excited because I’m not really sure what we’re going to get: you know, a press briefing, a bunch of lies or divided into softball teams. “It’s shirts and skins, and this time, don’t be such a little b----, Jim Acosta.”
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> I actually really like Sarah. I think she’s very resourceful. Like, she burns facts, and then she uses the ash to create a perfect smoky eye. Like, maybe she’s born with it; maybe it’s lies.
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> It’s probably lies.
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> And I’m never really sure what to call Sarah Huckabee Sanders. You know, is it Sarah Sanders? Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Is it Cousin Huckabee? Is it Auntie Huckabee Sanders? Like, what’s Uncle Tom but for white women who disappoint other white women? Oh, I know: Aunt Coulter.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19715 "2018-04-30T07:13:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …Mike Pence, if you haven’t seen it, you would love it…

That one hit the spot. Best part is imagining someone explaining to him what the joke is about.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19716 "2018-04-30T07:44:50Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> There is plenty of material about her to use without getting into the mean girls realm. The cracks about finally going to the prom was contemptible.

Sounds like some snowflakes have been triggered and need their safe space.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19717 "2018-04-30T10:26:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> That one hit the spot. Best part is imagining someone explaining to him what the joke is about.

I actually don’t watch the show, so I didn’t get the joke. I did do an image search for Aunt Lydia, though

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19718 "2018-04-30T10:34:29Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Trump [shows his famous sensitivity to the disabled](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paralympic-games-organizers-respond-insensitive-trump-remarks-article-1.3960678) in his remarks to visiting Paralympic Games athletes:

The inevitable joke that Paralympians also find it a little hard to watch Trump’s administration was immediately made by many people.

As for the WHCD: the Republicans seem to have mysteriously forgotten the concept of a “roast” and how roasts typically work.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19719 "2018-04-30T10:37:26Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> There is plenty of material about her to use without getting into the mean girls realm. The cracks about finally going to the prom was contemptible.

I’ve read and re-read the transcript. I’ve watched the video twice. What prom crack? I haven’t seen that anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19720 "2018-04-30T11:10:48Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I’ve read and re-read the transcript. I’ve watched the video twice. What prom crack? I haven’t seen that anywhere.

Just searched, it was in response to a question before the event:

> [@](#):
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> When asked about the news, Michelle Wolf, the hilarious Daily Show correspondent and future Netflix late-night host who’s hosting the night’s festivities, told The Daily Beast: “I’m just excited Sarah finally gets to go to prom.”

It’s not that Sanders doesn’t deserve abuse, it’s that liberals should be above making jokes about the appearence of women.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19721 "2018-04-30T11:13:48Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Burning fats don’t tend to leave a lot of ash. That’s why candles are so popular…

Related trivia: “Chris Christie” is the least poular candle scent. (Breaking my rule above)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19722 "2018-04-30T11:18:50Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> Just searched, it was in response to a question before the event:  
> It’s not that Sanders doesn’t deserve abuse, it’s that liberals should be above making jokes about the appearence of women.

Is that a joke about the appearance of women?

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19723 "2018-04-30T11:54:17Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Is that a joke about the appearance of women?

Maybe she did her research and discovered that on May 13, 1998 SHS was working a shift at the animal shelter and couldn’t go to the prom. More likely it’s a dig at her being so unattractive that no one invited her to the prom.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19724 "2018-04-30T12:36:10Z")

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So what I’m taking away from this whole WHCD episode is that it is only okay to call people liars, insult their appearances, and criticize their characters if you do it from the safety of Twitter.

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