# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 988
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19745 "2018-04-30T16:28:45Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Oh, boo-hoo, extra “hoo”. > > If her sensibilities are too delicate to stand being called out as a lying collaborator to a seditious administration, she can quit and find a more respectable job, such as selling crack. I totally agree. I should’ve been clearer: she is a damn liar and she deserved every bit of it and then some. But it was disturbing to see her be so snow-flakey, I didn’t expect that. Maybe she realized what she has become and will quit. Wolf had some good moments, but I say Colbert at his weakest is better ( and meaner ). ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19746 "2018-04-30T16:44:15Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > There were also oblique references to the potted plant incident of Harvey Weinstein, and praise for Trump pulling out of the TPP when he said he would while most men don’t pull out when they say they will. etc. I also like the joke about picking a woman this year because they didn’t think a woman would jerk off in front of everyone. And #metoo about Bear Stearns. “The whole company went down on me without my consent.” I didn’t get the reference for the joke about Paul Ryan acting in a video. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19747 "2018-04-30T16:46:18Z")
This may have already been covered ( I can’t keep up with this thread) but [Trump is pushing for a steep tariff on Canadian Newsprint](http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/10/news/economy/trump-tariffs-canada-paper/index.html). Now it could be that he is deeply concerned about the jobs of the 260 employees who work at Northern Pacific Paper, that he is willing to risk hundreds of thousands of American Jobs that rely on Canadian Paper, I suspect its more likely that he is just a vengeful prick and this whole purpose of the exercise is to be a giant “Fuck You” to the Newspaper media. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19748 "2018-04-30T17:02:28Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > I totally agree. I should’ve been clearer: she is a damn liar and she deserved every bit of it and then some. > But it was disturbing to see her be so snow-flakey, I didn’t expect that. Maybe she realized what she has become and will quit. Not a fucking chance. She knew exactly what she was doing. She attended knowing she’d catch a fuckton of abuse and she had a stack of victim cards to play for every slight. It was as big a performance as anybody else at the mic that night. She should be nominated for an Oscar. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19749 "2018-04-30T17:11:29Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Not a fucking chance. She knew exactly what she was doing. She attended knowing she’d catch a fuckton of abuse and she had a stack of victim cards to play for every slight. It was as big a performance as anybody else at the mic that night. She should be nominated for an Oscar. You don’t get an Oscar for just being your true self. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19750 "2018-04-30T17:19:30Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I didn’t get the reference for the joke about Paul Ryan acting in a video. Earlier, they played a video from Ryan saying how much he loves freedom of the press. I assume he meant it to be taken seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19751 "2018-04-30T17:20:28Z")
Clusterfuck continues. This Trump guy is toxic to many careers. > [@](#): > > White House physician Ronny Jackson will not return to his role as President Donald Trump’s personal physician, Politico reports, citing two senior administration officials. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19752 "2018-04-30T17:26:28Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Not a fucking chance. Hey, a guy can dream, right? It’s not like there’s much demand for her in that department anyway. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19753 "2018-04-30T17:27:34Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > - She said Sanders burns lies to make the perfect eye shadow. So that’s what “smoky eye” means? I read the transcript, and there were several things that I just didn’t get. “Smoky eye” I figured was something like “evil eye” but didn’t get it. I didn’t know who Aunt Lydia is, and I’ve now learned that _The Handmaid’s Tale_ not just a classic novel like I thought, but it’s a movie or tv show or something. And why would Mike Pence love it? Also, did you see what Mike Huckabee tweeted just hours before the WHCD? > [@Mike Huckabee](#): > > If you lack sense of humor, get “offended” by slights you create, or just can’t bring yourself to tolerate those you disagree with the DO NOT watch my show 2nite! You will be triggered and will need a pony, popsicle, and Playdough to cope! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19754 "2018-04-30T17:30:20Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Oh, boo-hoo, extra “hoo”. > > If her sensibilities are too delicate to stand being called out as a lying collaborator to a seditious administration, she can quit and find a more respectable job, such as selling crack. No distributor is going to want to hire her with that résumé. This whole administration will be lucky to find work in coal mines when this is all over. Though, if there is any justice to be had, many of them will become quite adept at making cleaning products and license plates. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19755 "2018-04-30T17:33:16Z")
Aww, poor republicans are mad that journalists are calling them out for their lies. [Poor babys](https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/c66a1fc8-853a-33d8-bf88-d32595fd7b7d/ss_prominent-republican-says.html). If only there was a way to fix this. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19756 "2018-04-30T17:36:07Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I didn’t know who Aunt Lydia is, and I’ve now learned that _The Handmaid’s Tale_ not just a classic novel like I thought, but it’s a movie or tv show or something. And why would Mike Pence love it? It was turned into a TV series (on Hulu) last year, and has won every Golden Globe and Emmy award. It depicts a nighmarish dystopian future America, which has been turned into a theocracy and where women are completely subjugated. For some reason (not yet explained … I’m only 6 episodes into Season 1) fertility has fallen to catastrophic levels, and the “handmaids” of the title are the few fertile women who are kept as household breeders. The “aunts” like Aunt Lydia are the wardens, keeping the housemaids in line. Right up Pence’s alley, in other words. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19757 "2018-04-30T17:51:32Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > So that’s what “smoky eye” means? I read the transcript, and there were several things that I just didn’t get. “Smoky eye” I figured was something like “evil eye” but didn’t get it. > > I didn’t know who Aunt Lydia is, and I’ve now learned that _The Handmaid’s Tale_ not just a classic novel like I thought, but it’s a movie or tv show or something. And why would Mike Pence love it? > > Also, did you see what Mike Huckabee tweeted just hours before the WHCD? > [@jsc1953](#): > > It was turned into a TV series (on Hulu) last year, and has won every Golden Globe and Emmy award. It depicts a nighmarish dystopian future America, which has been turned into a theocracy and where women are completely subjugated. For some reason (not yet explained … I’m only 6 episodes into Season 1) fertility has fallen to catastrophic levels, and the “handmaids” of the title are the few fertile women who are kept as household breeders. The “aunts” like Aunt Lydia are the wardens, keeping the housemaids in line. > > Right up Pence’s alley, in other words. Taking it just a wee bit further, as I think was intended, “pious” male leaders receive said breeders in order to have children. They impregnate them using a type of ceremonial rape. All for the good of the country, of course, and as the scripture bids them do. It’s a pretty devastating take down. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19758 "2018-04-30T18:28:53Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > For once, he and I are in agreement. The WHCD raises money for the White House Correspondents’ Association’s college journalism scholarship program. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19759 "2018-04-30T18:29:25Z")
Sirs! I rise in dismay, shock and horror at this poisonous and treasonous mockery of the Crown that shelters us all. Difficult, no doubt, to even discuss the Irish without descending to crude and vile verbage, but there are limits, sir! Limits! I shall content myself with the knowledge that after a few days shall have passed, no one will even remember the name of Mr Johnathon Swift! Yours, etc. Gen. Sir Cedric Fappingham, Greve on Biscuits, Cornwhole (ret.) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19760 "2018-04-30T18:31:50Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The press has rebutted her on substantive issues all the time. The White House Correspondents Dinner isn’t the place to do more of it. > > That said, I don’t have a problem with Trump skipping the dinner. I’m not a fan of the roast style of humor. And the idea that the president always goes to the dinner because the president has always gone is nonsensical to me. I thought it was clear I was talking about Wolf in that statement, since it is she who the press are attacking. They can’t argue against what Wolf said, so they have to create this narrative that she hurted poor widdle defenseless lady. And I very much think it is the President’s job to show up there. It’s the _White House_ Correspondents’ Dinner. It’s a place where he is supposed to show up to show his approval for the freedom of the press, even when they attack him or make him feel uncomfortable. Even if it weren’t Trump, I wouldn’t want a President who couldn’t go to the WHCD. It suggests a lack of resolve. Being President means you will often be in situations that are uncomfortable, both socially and otherwise. I think being able to take some jokes and criticism is a bare minimum for the job, really. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19761 "2018-04-30T18:32:00Z")
> [@](#): > > I didn’t know who Aunt Lydia is, and I’ve now learned that The Handmaid’s Tale not just a classic novel like I thought, but it’s a movie or tv show or something. And why would Mike Pence love it? A Handmaid’s Tale is set in a future America ruled by extreme right wing Christianity after a plague has made most women infertile. Those who have proven to be fertile are locked away and parceled out to the top government leadership to breed without their consent. They wear long robes and bonnets with wings on each side so they can’t look to the sides and are required to travel together and look only forwards. Aunt Lydia is the older woman who is in charge of keep them in their place. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19762 "2018-04-30T18:37:53Z")
Mika B (I can’t spell her name) from Morning Joe criticized Michelle Wolff for attacking Sarah the Huckster, “A wife and mother”. Why is wife and mother Sarah Huckster sacrosanct, but wives and mothers Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama are fair targets? And Mika claims to be a liberal. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19763 "2018-04-30T18:43:06Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > The double negative is throwing me; but you are aware that this dinner is known far and wide as “nerd prom,” right? No, but it doesn’t change my point. It is only metaphorically a prom. It doesn’t actually share any characteristics with a high school prom. It only makes sense as a metaphor, not as being about a real prom. It would never even have occurred to me to read the comment as being about her appearance had I not been told it was one. It’s about her being dolled out for this event. And I still say it is a roast. The entire type of comedy is to make fun of people. That’s a roast. It’s not like it’s doing stand-up. And the President usually does get to respond back, as Obama did. I have to presume Sanders chose not to. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19764 "2018-04-30T18:49:25Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Taking it just a wee bit further, as I think was intended, “pious” male leaders receive said breeders in order to have children. They impregnate them using a type of ceremonial rape. All for the good of the country, of course, and as the scripture bids them do. It’s a pretty devastating take down. Note that the book long predates Trump/Pence, and even the greenlighting of the series, IIRC, predates Trump announcing his current bid for the WH, let alone being considered a serious contender. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=987) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=989)