# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 999
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19965 "2018-05-03T14:59:38Z")
[This is a completely different Trump nomination](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/17-republicans-nominated-trump-nobel-peace-prize-theres-just-one-major-problem-submission/). It wasn’t forged–it was submitted 2 months after nominations closed. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19966 "2018-05-03T15:08:54Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [This is a completely different Trump nomination](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/17-republicans-nominated-trump-nobel-peace-prize-theres-just-one-major-problem-submission/). It wasn’t forged–it was submitted 2 months after nominations closed. Ha Ha, that’s awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19967 "2018-05-03T15:19:03Z")
Many people are saying it’s a tremendous honor just to be nominated. Very few people, very few, get nominated. So that’s a really, really great honor. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19968 "2018-05-03T15:25:19Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [This is a completely different Trump nomination](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/17-republicans-nominated-trump-nobel-peace-prize-theres-just-one-major-problem-submission/). It wasn’t forged–it was submitted 2 months after nominations closed. It doesn’t really matter though, since the whole thing was a Republicity stunt anyway. There is no way in hell that the Nobel committee would ever give Trump a prize. Kim Jong-Un is more likely to get a prize than Trump is. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19969 "2018-05-03T16:00:56Z")
And when Trump doesn’t get it, they get another issue to get all butthurt over, whine about the elites on the Nobel committee and rage about what a shithole country Norway is. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19970 "2018-05-03T16:22:26Z")
Isn’t that the country he most \*wants \*immigrants from? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19971 "2018-05-03T16:33:00Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Isn’t that the country he most \*wants \*immigrants from? Norway José? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19972 "2018-05-03T16:36:57Z")
José Cañusí, by the dawn’s early light ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19973 "2018-05-03T16:40:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Isn’t that the country he most \*wants \*immigrants from? That was weeks ago. What has Norway done for us \*lately \*? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19974 "2018-05-03T16:48:00Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Isn’t that the country he most \*wants \*immigrants from? As with just about any Trump-related topic, Norway is a Schrödinger’s country the shitholeness of which cannot be ascertained at any given time until a tweet is made to inform the observer of Trump’s opinion. Do note that this opinion is only 100% valid for the time it takes to write the tweet, after which point we’re moving progressively but rapidly back into Quantum Trumpian Uncertainty. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19975 "2018-05-03T16:56:03Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > It doesn’t really matter though, since the whole thing was a Republicity stunt anyway. There is no way in hell that the Nobel committee would ever give Trump a prize. Kim Jong-Un is more likely to get a prize than Trump is. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if they gave it to Obama again? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19976 "2018-05-03T17:04:43Z")
> [@Sinaptics](#): > > Wouldn’t it be hilarious if they gave it to Obama again? 😃 And the Nobel Prize for not bitch slapping the orange-racist-dumb-son-of-a-bitch goes to… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19977 "2018-05-03T17:05:59Z")
…Michelle Obama! ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19978 "2018-05-03T17:33:06Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I think the feeling of unease that has boosted Trump, and has lead to the whole “amateurs must be better than professional politicians” movement of the last ten years or so, is not really being caused by unemployment per se. It’s more the fact that while jobs are fairly plentiful, most of them are really shit, especially for non-professionals. Yes, but it’s been going on for more than the last ten years. For decades now–really, for as long as I can remember-- there has always been at least one candidate claiming to be an “outsider” to Washington. That tune is as old as the hills. Trump was nothing new in that regard. > [@galen\_ubal](#): > > People have a real reason for feeling disadvantaged compared to their parents and grandparents, and nobody seems to be doing anything to raise their standard of living. Least of all they themselves, in some cases. Many of the people who fall for Trump’s rhetoric of entitlement want to benefit from post-WWII economics forever, where they could have a comfortable upper middle-class life while barely graduating from high school. They can’t except that maybe short-term (re)training is necessary to benefit from the new ecomony. Instead, they think Trump is going to wave a magic wand for them while they sit on their asses watching the Apprentice. > [@galen\_ubal](#): > > . . . Still, they can message that people are being held back not by the stingy corporations, but by “them”. Welfare recipients, immigrants, and all the usual scapegoats. Yes–Trump is not the first to exploit this. (Cruz was essentially trying to do the same thing.) Trump just employs full out, fantasy wish-fullfulment, “reality TV” rhetoric for those who think that because they are white they shouldn’t be the ones to suffer economically, even though non-whites are experiencing the exact same thing, if not worse. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19979 "2018-05-03T17:49:40Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [This is a completely different Trump nomination](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/17-republicans-nominated-trump-nobel-peace-prize-theres-just-one-major-problem-submission/). It wasn’t forged–it was submitted 2 months after nominations closed. Oh god, that picture. “An act of painful defecation.” ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19980 "2018-05-03T18:03:02Z")
> [@Sinaptics](#): > > Wouldn’t it be hilarious if they gave it to Obama again? 😃 The Bill and Crooked Hillary Foundation please. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19981 "2018-05-03T20:20:26Z")
So, the Chaplain has renounced his resignation, accusing Catholic Paul Ryan’s spokesperson of saying “maybe it’s time we had a Chaplain who wasn’t Catholic.” [https://twitter.com/jim\_newell/status/992134189523914755?s=19](https://twitter.com/jim_newell/status/992134189523914755?s=19) 25% of the people of Wisconsin, about half of those who claim religious affiliation, are Catholic. [https://www.bestplaces.net/religion/state/wisconsin](https://www.bestplaces.net/religion/state/wisconsin) ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19982 "2018-05-03T20:32:21Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Yes, but it’s been going on for more than the last ten years. For decades now–really, for as long as I can remember-- there has always been at least one candidate claiming to be an “outsider” to Washington. That tune is as old as the hills. Trump was nothing new in that regard. In Jon Stewart’s **America: The Book** , there’s a photo of George W. Bush, with a caption reading something like, “This Connecticut-born, Harvard- and Yale-educated, governor of a major state, millionaire son of a former President ran in 2000 as an ‘outsider’. People are still wondering how the fuck he pulled that off.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19983 "2018-05-04T00:01:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I don’t remember saying that. Did I say that? > > I do remember pointing out that the Trumpian narratives around unemployment figures and stock market growth abruptly switched to their polar opposites once there was a change in administration. Perhaps that’s what you’re thinking of. Yes, you are correct, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/19984 "2018-05-04T00:04:40Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I take it one further, and what the heck, it’s just in time for Mother’s Day (first Sunday in May, in multiple countries): why the fuck should being a wife and mother make someone sacrosanct? Do multiple births produce holier holiness? If you’ve donated eggs, does that count? Second Sunday here - the first Sunday is the start of duckshooting season. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=998) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1000)