# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 100
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1981 "2025-02-14T15:01:26Z")
How goes the actual enforcement of these rulings? ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1982 "2025-02-14T15:19:23Z")
I don’t have access to the latest revisions of AI tech yet Trump would. This is regular ChatGPT: > acting as president, write a short executive order threatening BRICS countries with 1000% tarrifs if they attempt to form a common currency > **Executive Order** > **Subject: Economic Sanctions Against Currency Manipulation by BRICS Nations** > By the authority vested in me as President of the United States, and in order to protect the economic and national security interests of the United States, I hereby order the following: > **Section 1. Purpose** > The BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) have signaled intentions to establish a common currency designed to undermine the U.S. dollar’s role as the global reserve currency. Such actions threaten the stability of international markets and the economic well-being of the American people. > **Section 2. Economic Countermeasures** > Should the BRICS nations move forward with efforts to implement a common currency: > (a) A **1,000% tariff** shall be imposed on all imports originating from any BRICS member state. > (b) U.S. financial institutions shall be **prohibited** from engaging in transactions with any central bank or financial entity that facilitates the proposed BRICS currency. > (c) Additional **sanctions and trade restrictions** shall be considered against individuals and entities participating in currency destabilization efforts. (more stuff like **Section 3. Implementation** **Section 4. General Provisions** edited, along with space for his demented signature) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1983 "2025-02-14T16:48:13Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > For him, being President is nothing more than an extended photo-op, and an opportunity to spew whatever inanities and hateful ideas cross his mind through a massive megaphone. Yeah, I said back in 2016 that Trump didn’t actually want to do the job of President, he just wanted to play the President on TV and at his rallies. Trump’s only consistent goal was to use the Presidency to enrich himself (and if Ivanka and Jared Kushner could get rich too, that was also fine). Trump’s the “star” of a real-life reality show the world can’t escape. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1984 "2025-02-14T17:23:13Z")
I thought (and said) the same thing last time, but I don’t think that’s true of this administration. I think he really believes in things like a trade deficit meaning other countries taking advantage of the US, and this time wants to “make a difference”. Lord help us. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1985 "2025-02-14T20:50:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > How goes the actual enforcement of these rulings Here’s one they’ve complied with, albeit in an extremely dickish fashion; > **[Trump Admin Adds Note Rejecting ‘Gender Ideology’ on Sites Court Ordered Them...](https://www.404media.co/trump-admin-adds-note-rejecting-gender-ideology-on-sites-court-ordered-them-to-restore/)** > > FDA and HHS sites now note that “The Trump Administration rejects gender ideology and condemns the harms it causes to children.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1986 "2025-02-14T20:53:25Z")
That sounds like a “spitting in the soup before serving it” type of compliance to me. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1987 "2025-02-14T21:13:31Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > His voice (when I cannot avoid hearing it) seems wheezier than before, and his thoughts even more disjointed/superficial (if that is possible.) Sure he is older and appears more unhealthy, but I primarily interpreted what I saw as a lack of interest. He got what he wanted - freedom from prosecution. And now he is the center of attention - being worshipped by his sycophants. And he is pissing off the libs, and hurting anyone who previously failed to defer to his every whim. Sounds like he has accomplished all of his life’s goals and it’s time to get on the next Starship outta here. All in favor? 🙌🏼 👋🏼 👏🏼 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1988 "2025-02-14T21:33:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Sounds like he has accomplished all of his life’s goals and it’s time to get on the next Starship outta here. All in favor? He’ll still need his supporters. I think he and his supporters should ALL climb aboard the starship… like the Heaven’s Gate cult did. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1989 "2025-02-14T21:47:09Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > …President Musk’s and Donald Trump’s now want to dismantle the Veterans Administration (VA). Cheeky 😊 [The doge.gov site got hacked today](https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-doge-gov-website-hacked-defaced) It’s back to normal now but it just goes to show how green and unexperienced Musk’s gang of children are. Also noted about the [doge.gov](http://doge.gov) site is that is uses [x.com](https://x.com/doge) as its canonical link. That means that it wants Google to drive all traffic to a mirror on the [x.com](http://x.com) site for the official government news. You know, the website where Musk collects ad revenue and uses visit stats to boost its stock prices. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1990 "2025-02-14T22:37:17Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Dinsdale](#): > > > > His voice (when I cannot avoid hearing it) seems wheezier than before, and his thoughts even more disjointed/superficial (if that is possible.) Sure he is older and appears more unhealthy, but I primarily interpreted what I saw as a lack of interest. He got what he wanted - freedom from prosecution. And now he is the center of attention - being worshipped by his sycophants. And he is pissing off the libs, and hurting anyone who previously failed to defer to his every whim. > > Sounds like he has accomplished all of his life’s goals and it’s time to get on the next Starship outta here. All in favor? > > 🙌🏼 👋🏼 👏🏼 👍 As long as he takes the entire Republican Party with him _and_ every voter who would be inclined to assent to his destructive insanity, I’m all for it. And as long as they’re up, they can bring me a pony. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > He’ll still need his supporters. I think he and his supporters should ALL climb aboard the starship… like the Heaven’s Gate cult did. I’ve got a tasty pudding recipe! ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1991 "2025-02-14T22:40:41Z")
A couple of random thoughts today: Now that Trump is in charge of the Kennedy Center and has a board of directors made up solely of loyalists, when will they vote to change the name to the Trump Center? My guess is within 2 months. Anybody wanna give me odds? Second, the Navy. Do you remember in Trump’s first term how upset he got when he visited a carrier that was being built and saw the electromagnetic launch system? It wasn’t working correctly and he openly demanded that the Navy replace the new launchers with the tried and true steam launchers. Back then he didn’t have enough loyalists in the military to blindly follow whatever random order he gave so his order was largely ignored. But we know how Trump hates when his orders are ignored and Pete Hegseth is a true believer. Is his openly stating that we won’t be able to fight a war an opening to follow Trump’s previous directive and go back to steam? It would be an idiotic decision, but when we have idiots at the helm it’s what we can expect. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1992 "2025-02-14T23:22:05Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I think he and his supporters should ALL climb aboard the starship… like the Heaven’s Gate cult did. It’s a cookbook! ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1993 "2025-02-14T23:25:06Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > …yet they do have a significant submarine fleet I thought their subs were rusting in port due to low/no maintenance? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1994 "2025-02-14T23:26:59Z")
I can’t even. It seems this has been stopped for the moment but that it would even be contemplated: > **[Trump moves to fire staff overseeing nuclear weapons then backtracks—Report](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fires-hundreds-staff-overseeing-nuclear-weapons-report-2031419)** > > The Department of Energy employs approximately 14,000 workers and oversees 95,000 contractors across energy and security sectors. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1995 "2025-02-14T23:31:29Z")
I’m not sure I’d make that bet: [**Russia Submarine Capabilities: Overview of Russia’s submarine capabilities and import-export behavior**](https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/russia-submarine-capabilities/) … and … [**Threats Posted by the Submarine Fleet of the Russian Navy**](https://www.citadel.edu/goldstar/wp-content/uploads/sites/97/Tchapmanpaper-1.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1996 "2025-02-14T23:36:41Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I’m not sure I’d make that bet On the other hand, the Russian Navy has _one_ aircraft carrier, which went into drydock for upgrades in 2017, was damaged three times while in drydock (once when a crane collapsed onto it, and twice by fires), and may not ever return to duty. > **[Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_carrier_Admiral_Kuznetsov)** > > Admiral Flota Sovetskogo Soyuza Kuznetsov (Russian: Адмира́л фло́та Сове́тского Сою́за Кузнецо́в, "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov") is an aircraft carrier (heavy aircraft cruiser in Russian classification) that has served as the flagship of the Russian navy. It was built by the Black Sea Shipyard, the sole manufacturer of Soviet aircraft carriers, in Nikolayev within the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (Ukrainian SSR) and launched in 1985, becoming fully operational in t... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1997 "2025-02-14T23:38:26Z")
WHO THE FUCK DOES CANADA NEED PROTECTION FROM YOU SENILE DUMBASS, HAS ANYONE EVEN EXPLAINED TO YOU THAT STATEHOOD FOR CANADA WOULD MEAN A PERMANENT DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY > **[Olga Nesterova (@onestpress.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/onestpress.bsky.social/post/3li63d4bkck2k)** > > President Trump declares that the US will no longer provide military protection unless Canada becomes the “51st state” ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1998 "2025-02-14T23:38:31Z")
Granted the article below is 25 years old but unless Russia has been working hard to re-build its submarine fleet and given the lack of professionalism in the rest of the Russian military and the high incidence of corruption I’m not sure their subs are up to the task. Which is not to say they can’t be dangerous but hardly what they once were as a fleet. I grant that even one can cause a lot of damage but they can only ever be in one place. Your first link notes they started work on a new class of submarine in 1993. The first of those was commissioned in 2017. The second in 2022. Not a lot. > **[Russia's once-feared Northern Fleet lies rusting and radioactive](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/aug/20/kursk.russia1)** > > For 50 years the Northern Fleet was the pride of the USSR. From secret ports along Russia's Arctic coast, the iron ships ruled the steel-grey waves with a mailed fist. Beneath the waters, a formidable submarine fleet, diesel and then nuclear powered,... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1999 "2025-02-14T23:40:37Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > WHO THE FUCK DOES CANADA NEED PROTECTION FROM YOU SENILE DUMBASS, HAS ANYONE EVEN EXPLAINED TO YOU THAT STATEHOOD FOR CANADA WOULD MEAN A PERMANENT DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY Has anyone explained to him NATO and NORAD? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2000 "2025-02-14T23:43:57Z")
IIRC the Kuznetsov was always accompanied by an ocean-going tug because the carrier broke down so much. > **[Russian ships sailing by NATO's war games have a tug with them — and it's a...](https://www.businessinsider.com/tug-sailing-with-russian-ships-reveals-their-fleets-biggest-problem-2018-10)** > > Many Russian blue-water ships never leave port without an oceangoing tug in company, a sign of over-reliance on an aging and breakdown-prone fleet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=99) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=101)