# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2441 "2025-02-26T23:14:39Z")

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Couldn’t watch it past the “bloated” bit.

Who. The fuck. Elected Elon Musk.

Also am I too old to recall tradition that President’s didn’t say bad things about prior Presidents? Let alone shit-talk them. I know Trump has done it before yet I cannot recall any other President doing so.

The USA - esp. after that Trump Gaza video - has bottomed out. Didn’t even have a landing gear to deploy and now it’s all fiery crash.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2442 "2025-02-26T23:19:19Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> The USA - esp. after that Trump Gaza video - has bottomed out.

‘Hold my ~~beer~~ covfefe.’ ~ DJT

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2443 "2025-02-26T23:28:09Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> The USA - esp. after that Trump Gaza video - has bottomed out. Didn’t even have a landing gear to deploy and now it’s all fiery crash.

IOW, _ **Success!!!** _

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2444 "2025-02-26T23:30:39Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Didn’t even have a landing gear to deploy and now it’s all fiery crash.

Also, to be fair, DEI.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2445 "2025-02-26T23:37:14Z")

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Senator Foghorn Leghorn must have been hanging around Susan Collins, because he’s deeply concerned.

> **['Don’t ever, ever take the position': GOP senator gives stern warning to...](https://www.rawstory.com/john-kennedy-2671226399/)**
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> During a confirmation hearing for nominees chosen for high-profile posts within the Department of Justice, two of President Donald Trump's appointees wouldn't rule out disobeying federal court orders.NBC News reported Wednesday that both Aaron Reitz...

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2446 "2025-02-26T23:37:27Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> ‘Hold my ~~beer~~ covfefe.’ ~ DJT

Yeah, the bottom is still deeper. And maybe the Presidential tradition was prior President’s don’t shit-talk the current President. Carter never said (if asked) anything about Iran-contra or how Reagan had made a “deal” with Iran not to release the hostages till his inauguration.

Who else? Did LBJ shit-talk Nixon? Truman towards Eisenhower? Nixon live to Clinton and I don’t recall any shit-talking. It’s one thing to say “My predecessors policies caused inflation which my policies will address”. I mean there WAS a tradition, not set out in the Constitution that Adams didn’t _have_ to like Jefferson and vice-versa.

Also, by any metrics, Trump has no standing here. He blamed Biden for whatever ended the engagament and regime change in Afghanistan which Trump himself started, Is Ol’ Joe saying anything? If he had a cane - or even better a shillelagh would it have been okay to bang Trump with it while he was shit-talking Biden during his fucking Inaugural speech?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2447 "2025-02-26T23:42:44Z")

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Those are real and here’s how they came about:

> **[Anti-Elon Musk Group Goes Viral With 'Swasticar' Ad After German Election:...](https://www.latintimes.com/anti-elon-musk-group-goes-viral-swasticar-ad-after-german-election-0-1939-3-seconds-576635)**
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> UK group Everyone Hates Elon went viral for posting parody ads for Tesla's "Swasticar" with an image of Musk making a Nazi salute after the tech billionaire helped Germany's far-right party become the second-most powerful in the nation.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2448 "2025-02-27T00:32:22Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> > [@Coriolanus](#):
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> > The USA - esp. after that Trump Gaza video - has bottomed out.
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> ‘Hold my ~~beer~~ covfefe.’ ~ DJT

Shouldn’t that be:

‘Hold my hamberder Covfefe!’ ~ DJTR\*

\*The _R_ stands for _Rex_. And you just know he pronounces it _rich_.

> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> > [@Mijin](#):
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> > In the magaverse, people have been saying “What’s so wrong with a prosperous Gaza?”
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> If the prosperity were going to the Palestinians who actually live in Gaza? Maybe.
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> But considering the plan to remove all of them, who exactly is going to prosper?

The _Globalists_, of course. And you know who _they_ are.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Texas school district sends letter to parents warning that their children might get deported in the middle of their next field trip.

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:q3glmp5enr5gkuu2uaosjker/bafkreif7ll3z545du7ggbgxc6gxz73kon7da7gw2zfyixo2kn6jcu2gkfa@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:q3glmp5enr5gkuu2uaosjker/bafkreif7ll3z545du7ggbgxc6gxz73kon7da7gw2zfyixo2kn6jcu2gkfa@jpeg)

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2450 "2025-02-27T01:26:04Z")

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I coulda swore Trump said ICE would be deporting murders and rapists not children.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2451 "2025-02-27T01:35:26Z")

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Some, I assume, are good people

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2452 "2025-02-27T01:37:40Z")

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Only if they have measles.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2453 "2025-02-27T01:41:46Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I coulda swore Trump said ICE would be deporting murders and rapists not children.

You gotta get the murderers and rapists out _before_ they start murdering and raping, dontcha know.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2454 "2025-02-27T01:47:28Z")

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If they’re brown they’re murderers and rapists.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2455 "2025-02-27T02:33:39Z")

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AIUI, ICE has a free-range jurisdiction within 100 miles of the border (Alice TX is just in range). The oceans constitute borders, so ICE can operate where some 90%+ of Americans live. One might infer that an international airport logically constitutes a border (Customs would inspect international flights), in which case only a very small fraction of the country, if any, is not under their heel.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2456 "2025-02-27T02:39:31Z")

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Jesus. Henry. Christ.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2457 "2025-02-27T02:49:54Z")

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That first dude is the one who’d be arrested, what with that ferriner name.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2458 "2025-02-27T03:14:48Z")

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Well, good on the Board of Education for the warning. That’s in addition to the usual “permission slip” I reckon.

As the son of two European born parents (both citizens of the old USA at the time), I can only imagine a field trip to the Vanderbilt Planetarium or Teddy Roosevelt’s summer house at Sagamore Hill, being boarded by ICE and if I didn’t have my passport they would deport me to Norway or Ireland.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2459 "2025-02-27T03:39:03Z")

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As a legal US citizen that used to smoke weed in the back of the bus on field trips, border patrol would seriously kill the buzz.

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[I saw these coming, thanks to the incredibly bad wording of Felon47’s mass pardon for his fellow traitors of 6 January 2021.](https://www.navytimes.com/flashpoints/extremism-disinformation/2025/02/25/vets-capitol-riot-pardon-covers-separate-weapons-case-prosecutors/) (The link goes to _Navy Times_.)

> The Justice Department has concluded that a military veteran’s presidential pardon for charges that he [stormed the U.S. Capitol](https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2022/04/18/retired-soldier-charged-in-capitol-riot-held-secret-military-documents-feds-say/) also extends to his separate conviction for illegally possessing stolen grenades and classified information, according to a court filing Tuesday.
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> [Jeremy Brown](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.236163/gov.uscourts.dcd.236163.1.1_2.pdf), a 20-year veteran of the U.S. Army, was sentenced in April 2023 to seven years and three months in prison after a federal jury in Florida convicted him of weapons charges. Federal agents investigating Brown’s alleged role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol were searching Brown’s home in Florida when they found stolen Army grenades, an unregistered rifle and a stolen classified document.

And, yes, there’s a reason I typed _these_ above. From the same link:

> The department reached the same conclusion in other cases in which a Capitol riot defendant was convicted of separate charges.
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> Prosecutors initially concluded that the pardon didn’t cover the discovery of firearms found at the Kentucky home of convicted Capitol rioter [Daniel Edwin Wilson](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.262730/gov.uscourts.dcd.262730.108.0.pdf). But a court filing Tuesday in Washington, D.C., says they later received “further clarity” that the pardon covers Wilson’s [separate conviction](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.262730/gov.uscourts.dcd.262730.108.0.pdf) on firearms charges.
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> Investigators [seized six guns](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.262730/gov.uscourts.dcd.262730.67.0.pdf) and roughly 4,800 rounds of ammunition from Wilson’s home. He had prior felony convictions that made it illegal for him to possess firearms.

[_Navy Times_ also has this story showing how much this We need a new word. _Clusterfuck_ no longer has the oomph needed to describe this.  
just looooooves the military.](https://www.navytimes.com/pay-benefits/mil-money/2025/02/26/military-spouses-still-face-confusion-in-federal-return-to-office-rule/)

> Some federally employed military spouses are still grappling with uncertainty in their careers, as agencies aren’t consistently exempting them from the return-to-office mandate for federal workers, according to advocates and lawmakers.
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> And lawmakers are demanding immediate action to make the exemption clear to federal agencies.

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> OPM’s guidance has led to agencies treating military spouses differently, creating a “have and have-not” situation, said Emmalee Gruesen, a Navy wife and Navy civilian employee who volunteers as an advocate for federally employed military spouses. Gruesen lives in Charlottesville, Virginia, where she works remotely for a Navy office in Norfolk and co-runs a Facebook page for federally employed spouses.
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> Moreover, some spouses are being treated differently within their own agencies, according to Gruesen. In one instance, a military spouse working for an Air Force command received a telework exemption. Meanwhile, another spouse, teleworking for a different team in the same command, was denied the exemption, Gruesen said.
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> Despite sharing the same human resources team and command, the spouses’ teams interpreted the policy differently, according to Gruesen. The exempt spouse raised concerns that the other spouse “wasn’t getting equal treatment” and was “chastised,” Gruesen said.

We need a new word. _Clusterfuck_ no longer has the oomph needed to describe this mis/maladministration.

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