# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 130
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2581 "2025-03-01T08:02:29Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > \*I do not know why the whole rest of the world is so obsessed with WhatsApp Well china uses we chat (which is better) but now I’m wondering what Americans commonly use as chat app? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2582 "2025-03-01T08:17:05Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Well china uses we chat (which is better) but now I’m wondering what Americans commonly use as chat app? Facebook Messenger, primarily, plays the role in the U.S. that WhatsApp plays in much of the rest of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2583 "2025-03-01T08:56:07Z")
Yikes, definitely worst of the bunch ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2584 "2025-03-01T14:04:29Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > \*I do not know why the whole rest of the world is so obsessed with WhatsApp A few years ago, my sister lived in Thailand for several months. We used WhatsApp when she wanted to talk to my late Mother on the phone. No international charges. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2585 "2025-03-01T14:05:44Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Winston Churchill would have in no uncertain terms told Trump he may fuck right the hell off. > > ETA: Some Fox/Murdoch asshole reporter told - **I mean told** - Zelensky his clothing was disrespectful. I think Zelensky said he’d wear a suit later. A couple of things about this: 1. That “asshole” was Brian Glenn, less a “reporter” and more an “obvious plant”, and also (_urp_) the current uglybumper of Ms Marjorie Taylor Greene. 2. Zelenskyy said he’d wear a “costume” later - I suspect this was due to the word for “suit” in Ukrainian being “kostum” but, inadvertent or not, I thought it made the point well. 3. [Churchill visited the WH during the war wearing a similar uniform](https://people.com/politics/volodymr-zelenskyy-military-outfit-white-house-similar-winston-churchill/). 4. The same people clutching their pearls about Zelenskyy’s failure to wear a suit in the Oval Office have been strangely silent about Elon Musk’s attire in both the Oval Office (with ~~human shield~~ small child in tow) and the recent Cabinet meeting. So the usual array of lies, hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy on display. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2586 "2025-03-01T14:28:23Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > We used WhatsApp when she wanted to talk to my late Mother on the phone. No international charges. Impressive. I guess need to get WhatsApp. There are some things I’d like to talk to my late husband about. * * * Sorry. 🤭 I couldn’t resist. No disrespect meant. Condolences on your mom’s death. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2587 "2025-03-01T16:29:38Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Zelenskyy said he’d wear a “costume” later - I suspect this was due to the word for “suit” in Ukrainian being “kostum” but, inadvertent or not, I thought it made the point well. Same word in Russian **Костюм** (kostyum) so that is how I understood it. I can’t recall if Trump said any more about Zelensk’s outfit (besides the sarcastic “He’s all dressed up”) yet the guy you mentioned and perhaps Vance did. I’m surprised neither said if he meant the English “costume” like he was going to be wearing a clown outfit later on. Incidentally, the word for “theater” (as in a play) in Russian is **Спектакль** (spektákl) and my wife is out so I had to look up “Political theater” in Russian: **Политический театр** (_politícheskiy teátr_). It would probably be similar (with a more regular “I” at the end) in Ukrainian. ETA: Yep: **Політичний театр** (_politychnyy teatr_) so would be pronounced closely enough to the russian. I liked Zelensky’s 3-button shirt - it looked different that the green almost t-shirt he usually wears. I knew he’d take some “disrespectful” remarks even after Trumps. If Churchill’s outfit is remembered, I would bet a few KCIII 50p coins (only money with him on it thus far) that Churchill took exactly zero shit over it. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2588 "2025-03-01T16:56:16Z")
That range is about to be the whole country. Kids with the wrong skin color or last name in any state can soon get pulled off a bus and sent to a detention center if they don’t have proof of citizenship on hand. I can only assume checkpoints will be set up in front of schools to ensure maximum capture. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2589 "2025-03-01T17:06:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Impressive. I guess need to get WhatsApp. Better to get Signal if you can get your friends and family to use it too. Whatsapp is owned by the fascism supporting Zuckerberg. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2590 "2025-03-01T17:41:23Z")
Since the Russians are the good boys now there is no need to investigate or hinder any cyber-crime, cyber-war, or cyber-sabotage they may have been engaging in anymore. As a matter of fact, I order all federal agencies that do to stop immediately: > **[Trump administration retreats in fight against Russian cyber threats](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-hacking-cyber-security)** > > Recent incidents indicate US is no longer characterizing Russia as a cybersecurity threat, marking a radical departure: ‘Putin is on the inside now’ > The [Trump administration](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/trump-administration) has publicly and privately signaled that it does not believe [Russia](https://www.theguardian.com/world/russia) represents a cyber threat against US national security or critical infrastructure, marking a radical departure from longstanding intelligence assessments. > > The shift in policy could make the US vulnerable to hacking attacks by Russia, experts warned, and appeared to reflect the warming of relations between [Donald Trump](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump) and Russia’s president, [Vladimir Putin](https://www.theguardian.com/world/vladimir-putin). ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2591 "2025-03-01T17:55:49Z")
> [@from DavidNRockies's link](#): > > I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations. I don’t want advantage, I want PEACE. > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I know it’s foolish of me, but I’ve read this a few times and I just cannot understand what this means. What the fuck is he saying? I think it’s somewhere along the lines of: “Why is the weakling even bothering to fight back? All he needs to do is hand over his lunch money and the bully will stop pounding on him!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2592 "2025-03-01T18:32:41Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > We used WhatsApp when she wanted to talk to my late Mother on the phone. No international charges. That’s a pretty impressive app. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2593 "2025-03-01T19:51:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I guess need to get WhatsApp. There are some things I’d like to talk to my late husband about. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > That’s a pretty impressive app. You need to purchase the upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2594 "2025-03-01T20:11:15Z")
Now he’s going to pardon Pete Rose “over the next few weeks”. > **[Trump lashes out at Major League Baseball in overnight rant announcing pardon...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-pete-rose/)** > > Taking a break from attacking Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky after an ugly scene in the Oval Office on Friday that shocked the world, Donald Trump, seemingly out of nowhere, lashed at Major League Baseball in an overnight rant on Truth... ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2595 "2025-03-01T20:19:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Now he’s going to pardon Pete Rose “over the next few weeks”. While Rose _did_ plead guilty to a federal crime (tax evasion, in 1990), that has nothing to do why he’s not in the Hall of Fame, of course. Trump is such a grandstanding dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2596 "2025-03-01T20:24:35Z")
Pardon Shoeless Joe Jackson too! He batted .375 in the 1919 World Series! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2597 "2025-03-01T20:28:05Z")
Does he realize that Pete Rose is a loser? (i.e., out for the last time) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2598 "2025-03-01T20:58:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Impressive. I guess need to get WhatsApp. There are some things I’d like to talk to my late husband about. Funny! (We needed a bit of humor.) ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2599 "2025-03-01T21:44:34Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Pardon Shoeless Joe Jackson too! Welease Wodger. He’s a wobber and a wapist. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2600 "2025-03-01T22:05:25Z")
“Baseball, which is dying all over the place, **should get off its fat, lazy ass** , and elect Pete Rose” Quote is A-hole’s; bolding is mine. If “baseball” gets off its fat, lazy ass, will he get off his and fire rocket boy? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=129) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=131)