# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2741 "2025-03-06T17:17:14Z")
His strategy, if you can call it that, is to keep everybody hopping, jumping, worrying, and most of all **talking about him**. And it’s been working for almost 10 years. Following through and being consistent is for suckers and losers. IOW being a grownup is for suckers and losers. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2742 "2025-03-07T03:37:46Z")
Trump doesn’t understand why Japan has such a small military and the US provides for their defense. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:buhj63d72zgmuvgxshgabkc2/bafkreigconrt2lppx5et5xgeifnwm3uy4ug5inl52rso3xtlfwghnghbru@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:buhj63d72zgmuvgxshgabkc2/bafkreigconrt2lppx5et5xgeifnwm3uy4ug5inl52rso3xtlfwghnghbru@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2743 "2025-03-07T03:57:26Z")
France is the only one he’ll “mention” as per NATO. “A couple of others” The stupidity and ignorance between Trump and Vance is mind-boggling, even knowing Trump 45. WTF is his point here? Biden decimated our Navy and the U-fucking-SA might have to “call up” another country for help? Japan by several treaties - perhaps some unfair - cannot have the Navy or Army you are suggesting they have, Felon47. Trump has already told Taiwan they should only “call up” if they have the cash to pay for the US Navy to take on China. Got a price on that, dickhead? “You know that” - who is he talking to, the dumbasses of the world or is this yet another of his “not many people know this” things. “But we have to protect Japan, but under no circumstances do they have to protect us” Hopefully the Japanese press are calling him dumbass - and they have a way with idioms that will befit this shithead. Go back to sham elections in Greenland. Call up France and see what they think when you throw sovereignty out the window and annex it. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2744 "2025-03-07T04:07:12Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Trump has already told Taiwan they should only “call up” if they have the cash to pay for the US Navy to take on China. Got a price on that, dickhead? Sounds like a Godfather-style protection racket. That is, extortion. “Nice candy shop you’ve got. Be a shame if anything happened to it.” Replace “candy shop” with “country,” and we might as well start calling him “Don Donald.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2745 "2025-03-07T04:08:07Z")
Another from today; Trump wanted the ORIGINAL Declaration of Independence - y’know, a 250-year-old piece of animal hide that has to be kept in a light and humidity and temperature controlled environment so it doesn’t fall apart - hanging on his office wall like a poster. > **[Trump 'alarms' aides with request involving Declaration of Independence: report](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-declaration-of-independence/)** > > President Donald Trump wants a copy of the Declaration of Independence on the wall of the Oval Office — but apparently, he's only settling for that after initially asking aides if they could get the real document, The Atlantic reported on... No word on whether he expects to find a treasure map on the back. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2746 "2025-03-07T04:10:59Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Japan by several treaties - perhaps some unfair - cannot have the Navy or Army you are suggesting they have, Felon47. It’s even worse than that. > **Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution** (日本国憲法第9条, _Nihon koku kenpō dai kyū-jō_) is a clause in the [Constitution of Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Japan) outlawing [war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War) as a means to settle international disputes involving the state > **[Article 9 of the Constitution of Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_9_of_the_Constitution_of_Japan)** > > Article 9 of the Constitution of Japan (日本国憲法第9条, Nihon koku kenpō dai kyū-jō) is a clause in the Constitution of Japan outlawing war as a means to settle international disputes involving the state. The Constitution was drafted following the surrender of Japan in World War II. It came into effect on 3 May 1947 during the occupation of Japan by the Allies, which lasted until 28 April 1952. In its text, the state formally renounces the sovereign right of belligerency and aims at an international p... That would be the constitution that the US made Japan adopt after WWII. Once again, Trump displays his utter ignorance. . ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2747 "2025-03-07T04:13:52Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Japan by several treaties - perhaps some unfair - cannot have the Navy or Army you are suggesting they have, Felon47. Per Article 9 of Japan’s constitution, Japan cannot have a military. They handwave it a little bit and call what they have a self-defense force, akin to police or coast guard, a coast guard with sea, air, and land elements even though they also have an actual coast guard. > [@Coriolanus](#): > > “But we have to protect Japan, but under no circumstances do they have to protect us” Japan permits the United States and the United Nations to have bases on their territory. That’s a strategic advantage for both the US and the UN. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2748 "2025-03-07T04:23:18Z")
This simply has to be something refused. I don’t care if he knows "When in the course of human events… or even his likely boasts that he’d have signed his name “bigger than Hancock” or if he knows that the War for Independence had been going on for more than a year before this document was signed or which of his favourite Kings it was sent to (or even that it was meant to be sent to a King) Just show him Trumbull’s painting (also on the back of the $2 bill) and how disrespectful and inappropriate the dress of the founders was. [![](https://www.aoc.gov/sites/default/files/styles/alternative_xl/public/images/artwork/70222-600w-us-capitol-rotunda-painting-trumbull-declaration-independence.jpg.webp?itok=qTpYL3jU/) ](https://www.aoc.gov/sites/default/files/styles/alternative_xl/public/images/artwork/70222-600w-us-capitol-rotunda-painting-trumbull-declaration-independence.jpg.webp?itok=qTpYL3jU/) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2749 "2025-03-07T05:02:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Japan permits the United States and the United Nations to have bases on their territory. That’s a strategic advantage for both the US and the UN. Which is something that Trump has never understood. He likes to talk tough about American power, and how he could come down on just about any country in the world if he wanted to, but he doesn’t realize how much of that ability rests on having bases all over the world. If he had to launch attacks only from the continental US, even the US military would have problems being the dominant world power. Even things like B52s flying thousands of miles to bomb places relies on in-flight refueling, and those tanker planes need places to land. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2750 "2025-03-07T05:07:58Z")
And in other news, [the US government officially declares](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5XJ2GiR6Bo): > Enola Gay > > You should have stayed at home yesterday > Ah-ha, words can’t describe > The feeling and the way you lied > These games you play > They’re gonna end in more than tears some day > Ah-ha, Enola Gay > It shouldn’t ever have to end this way > **['Bonkers': Hegseth ridiculed as Enola Gay photos swept up in DEI purge over...](https://www.rawstory.com/msn/dei/)** > > Critics unloaded on new Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth after a new report Thursday night that references to a World War II Medal of Honor recipient and even the Enola Gay — the plane that dropped an atomic bomb on Japan — were among tens of thousands of... ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2751 "2025-03-07T05:09:52Z")
That site doesn’t like my ad blocker. Can you summarize? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2752 "2025-03-07T05:12:13Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Can you summarize? > [@](#): > > Hegseth gave the military a Wednesday deadline to strip content that highlights [diversity initiatives](https://www.rawstory.com/dei-trump-2671007790/). > > But the report noted the order includes the word “gay” — and in some cases materials appeared to be marked for deletion because they included the word, such as the B-29 plane Enola Gay, which dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2753 "2025-03-07T05:16:49Z")
Ah, thank you. As far as I know, Paul Tibbets named the aircraft after his mother, Enola Gay Tibbets. Nothing to do with gender or sexuality. As this merry band of bozos so often demonstrates, they know nothing about the United States’ history. Thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2754 "2025-03-07T05:18:03Z")
“Sir, we’ve just received an email from someone who calls himself Thomas Jefferson!” > A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2755 "2025-03-07T05:32:50Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > As far as I know, Paul Tibbets named the aircraft after his mother, Enola Gay Tibbets. Nothing to do with gender or sexuality. Indeed. “Gay” was a perfectly cromulent woman’s name, up until the 1960s, when it became widely used as a term for homosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2756 "2025-03-07T10:30:00Z")
I did the research you requested, Mister Sir Honorable Secretary of Defense! There is one more plane that must be erased from the history books. _"Queer John_\* - **Aircraft Type** : Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress - **Notability** : A B-17 bomber used by the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. - **Name Origin** : Likely a crew-chosen nickname, as was common for many bombers in WWII. Please, sir, report this to His highness Musk as a great thing I did this week? ETA: Your greatness Hegseth: I have found another aircraft-type that must be erased from books and memory. It was actually a term coined by the now-defunct NATO yet it hurts me deeply, as I’m sure you and Tsar Musk will agree: ### **Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 “Fagot”** - **Aircraft Type** : Soviet jet fighter - **NATO Reporting Name** : _“Fagot”_ - **Notability** : One of the most famous Soviet fighter jets of the early Cold War, used extensively in the Korean War. - **Name Origin** : This was part of NATO’s phonetic naming system for Soviet aircraft. The term _“Fagot”_ (a variation of “faggot”) was a neutral word at the time, referring to a bundle of sticks or a type of musical instrument (bassoon). ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2757 "2025-03-07T12:43:48Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Another from today; Trump wanted the ORIGINAL Declaration of Independence - y’know, a 250-year-old piece of animal hide that has to be kept in a light and humidity and temperature controlled environment so it doesn’t fall apart - hanging on his office wall like a poster. I’ve seen the original-- the ink is so faded it’s barely legible. Because it hung on a wall exposed to direct light for years. If trump saw it he wouldn’t want it in his office-- he’d probably say “what the hell happened to this? It looks like shit!” But I’m sure he never bothered to visit the National Archive building to look at it. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2758 "2025-03-07T12:52:22Z")
It really feels like it’s @Enola_Straight 's time to shine. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2759 "2025-03-07T15:08:32Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I don’t care if he knows "When in the course of human events… or even his likely boasts that he’d have signed his name “bigger than Hancock”… I want to hear what happens what happens when he gets to the “purfuit of happineff” part. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/2760 "2025-03-07T15:09:23Z")
> [@solost](#): > > I’ve seen the original-- the ink is so faded it’s barely legible. All the better for him to sign his infantile scribble of a signature over the names of all those dead losers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=139)