# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3281 "2025-03-22T06:45:50Z")

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Which doesn’t even work with the question he was asked (video in the link);

> **[Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lkwcrhr3xq24)**
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> Doocy: The judge wants to know why the proclamation was signed in the dark 
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> Trump: I don’t know when it was signed. I didn’t sign it. Other people handled it.

He’s either trying the old “Everything bad that happens is someone else’s fault” excuse he always falls back on, or he legitimately doesn’t remember signing it, which is a real possibility since in the videos I’ve seen of him signing EOs he really doesn’t seem to know what’s being put in front of him.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3282 "2025-03-22T11:18:32Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump claims he didn’t sign an executive order that has his signature on it.
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> [CNN flags curious 'discrepancy' as Trump denies signing order — featuring his signature](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-deportation-flights-2671382446/)

Let me guess. 'Twas signed by **autopen**.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3283 "2025-03-22T12:33:33Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Let me guess. 'Twas signed by **autopen**.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Maybe autopen signed without him.

🧐

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3284 "2025-03-22T15:01:29Z")

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Y’all are being too hard on him. He’s just following in the footsteps of old Harry Truman.

The buck stops over there. Way over there. In fact, I never saw the buck.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3285 "2025-03-22T15:18:48Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Y’all are being too hard on him. He’s just foIlowing in the footsteps of old Harry Truman.
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> The buck stops over there. Way over there. In fact, I never saw the buck.

It stops on Harry Truman’s desk, over there in 1952.

ETA: And it might be true that he never saw the buck. If he had, you can be sure he would have pocketed it.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3286 "2025-03-22T18:58:15Z")

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So, if Trump’s signature doesn’t count because it was signed by autopen, does this mean he’s going to drop his strategy of complaining about Biden’s pardons?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3287 "2025-03-22T19:36:59Z")

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No, because Donnie can magically cause things to happen by simply _thinking_ them. The sharpie is just a visual effect after the fact.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3288 "2025-03-22T19:49:48Z")

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Performers are abandoning the Kennedy Center in droves while Trump demands that they host productions of old musicals that haven’t been performed by professional touring groups in decades.

> **[Opinion | Trump is giving the Kennedy Center a tough new act](https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-kennedy-center-audience-rcna197179)**
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> The president's hostile takeover of the Washington, D.C. cultural institution will probably chase away the very people who like to attend shows there.

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> The president, who is also now the board chair for the Kennedy Center, convened a meeting of said board on Monday. In a recording of the meeting shared with The Washington Post, Trump and members said they’d like to see “Camelot,” “Cats,” “Fiddler on the Roof,” “Hello, Dolly!” and “The Phantom of the Opera” featured at the Kennedy Center. Speaking with reporters, Trump said, “We’re going to get some very good shows.”
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> There are a number of practical problems with this wish list, the first of which is that none of those musicals are touring in North America (although a tour of “Phantom” does launch in November). And if the Kennedy Center were to try to mount its own nonunion productions, it would run into a brick wall of standing labor contracts…
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> The second week of March, when the Kennedy Center typically announces programming for the next season, has come and gone. Across Washington, venues like The Anthem and Shakespeare Theatre Company are fielding calls from artists and organizations looking for somewhere else to perform. Most notably, the producers and creators of the musical theater juggernaut “Hamilton” announced they were canceling a two-month run, which most likely have generated more money than any other show in the 2025-26 Kennedy Center season.
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> “I never liked ‘Hamilton’ very much,” the president said, undeterred.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > There are a number of practical problems with this wish list, the first of which is that none of those musicals are touring in North America

I sense an opportunity - for both money and laughs.

Throw together an absolute shit-show of a show, and see if you can get Trump to pay you to perform it. See how many shows you can pull off before MAGA admits you’re complete trash, and Trump was an idiot for hiring you.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3290 "2025-03-22T20:16:06Z")

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Even better to refuse to work for a fascist in a prominent venue, embarrassing him and calling attention to his fascism.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3291 "2025-03-22T20:26:19Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Throw together an absolute shit-show of a show, and see if you can get Trump to pay you to perform it.

_Springtime For Hitler_? I’m sure Trump would love it, and pay a lot to keep it going.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3292 "2025-03-22T20:31:36Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Throw together an absolute shit-show of a show, and see if you can get Trump to pay you to perform it. See how many shows you can pull off before MAGA admits you’re complete trash, and Trump was an idiot for hiring you.

We got a great show for you, Mr. Trump, based on the title alone you know its going to be just the thing you like. We call it the Aristocrats.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3293 "2025-03-22T20:40:36Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> _Springtime For Hitler_? I’m sure Trump would love it, and pay a lot to keep it going.

Springtime, for E-lon, and Amer-i-ca!  
Winter, for Canada and France!  
Springtime, for E-lon, and Amer-i-ca!  
Come on, Trumpies, go into your dance!

_\>Cut to Trump doing his “jacking off two guys” dance\<_

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3294 "2025-03-22T22:01:44Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> [quoting article]  
> [Judge] Hollander wrote that DOGE “essentially engaged in a fishing expedition at SSA, in search of a fraud epidemic, based on little more than suspicion,” and “never identified or articulated even a single reason for which the DOGE Team needs unlimited access to SSA’s entire record systems.”

I guess that don’t want to say it aloud but I’ve seen speculation that the reason Musk wants complete access to government data is to train his AI.

I saw a comment somewhere like “People rob banks because that’s where the money is. Government computer systems are where the private data is, so that’s what they need access to.”

Not sure if that’s true but it makes about as much sense as anything else for needing complete access, like selling the data or using it for leverage against certain people. Musk having unlimited access to government data certainly would be an advantage over his AI competition in training.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Throw together an absolute shit-show of a show, and see if you can get Trump to pay you to perform it. See how many shows you can pull off before MAGA admits you’re complete trash, and Trump was an idiot for hiring you.

Get the people that did the Wonka Experience.

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> _Springtime For Hitler_?

Remember what happened in the movie/play? It’ll be like that, except the MAGAts won’t think it is a comedy and laugh. They will agree with it. it’ll be a big hit.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3296 "2025-03-22T22:31:36Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Remember what happened in the movie/play? It’ll be like that, except the MAGAts won’t think it is a comedy and laugh. They will agree with it. it’ll be a big hit.

Yes; show rightwingers a parody of them, they often don’t get it’s a parody and approve of it. I recall reading how that happened with Norman Spinrad’s _[Iron Dream](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Dream)_, an unsubtle parody (it included penis shaped spaceships). While most people got the point, rightwingers [didn’t](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Dream#Reception); it even got put on the recommended reading list of the American Nazi Party.

Parody doesn’t really work with people who are _themselves_ essentially a parody.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3297 "2025-03-22T22:39:05Z")

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Trump extorts law firm with executive order and gets $40 million in pro bono legal services.

[https://www.thebulwark.com/p/disgusted-betrayed-paul-weiss-extortion-executive-order-trump-lawyers-firm-karp-perkins-coie-rachel-cohen](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/disgusted-betrayed-paul-weiss-extortion-executive-order-trump-lawyers-firm-karp-perkins-coie-rachel-cohen)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3298 "2025-03-22T22:40:47Z")

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Trump says he’s revoked Adam Kinzinger’s security clearance.

Kinzinger says he didn’t have one.

> **['Trump was trembling with rage': Ex-GOP lawmaker says President made a...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-trembling-rage-revealing-kinzinger/)**
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> Donald Trump made a "revealing" error when he attempted to revoke security clearances from his political enemies, a former Republican lawmaker said Saturday.Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, a retired Republican who served on the Jan. 6...

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3299 "2025-03-22T23:10:29Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> Trump extorts law firm with executive order and gets $40 million in pro bono legal services.

Check out post 3273.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3300 "2025-03-22T23:17:53Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> …see if you can get Trump to pay you …

This is where the idea falls apart.

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