# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3461 "2025-03-27T15:34:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Der Spiegel says it has Hegseth’s Gmail password.

I assumed it was “WhitePower1!”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3462 "2025-03-27T17:02:42Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Coal mines, not so much.
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> Preach it.

[![](https://globalnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rjb11364119-1.jpg?quality=85&strip=all) ](https://globalnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rjb11364119-1.jpg?quality=85&strip=all)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3463 "2025-03-27T17:17:33Z")

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Trump can’t see coal mines from his golf courses.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3464 "2025-03-27T17:34:20Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> This is just so maddening. Windmills are proof of humans ability to overcome. To innovate. To solve problems. And frankly they are beautiful.
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> Coal mines, not so much.

Yeah, but what do you do when the planet runs out of wind or sunlight? I’ll bet you wish you had coal when that happens!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3465 "2025-03-27T17:38:17Z")

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Welcome the dolphin overloads that are smarter than half the USA population

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3466 "2025-03-27T17:42:36Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Yeah, but what do you do when the planet runs out of wind or sunlight? I’ll bet you wish you had coal when that happens!

This needs to be in a Trump speech… except his magats would just nod their empty heads.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3467 "2025-03-27T19:07:54Z")

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Stefanik’s appointment to be UN ambassador has been yanked because they’re worried about losing the House.

> **['Very tight': Trump admits Elise Stefanik nomination yanked over fear of...](https://www.rawstory.com/elise-stefanik-nomination/)**
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> The White House will officially pull its nomination for Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) to be the next U.N. ambassador as the Republican Party clings to a razor-thin majority in the House.Sen. Jim Risch (R-ID) told reporters that he learned the nomination...

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3468 "2025-03-27T19:29:53Z")

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I would somehow not be shocked if, should the elections not go well, the House GOP tried to deny seating the newly elected Reps.

Interesting times we live in

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3469 "2025-03-27T19:38:43Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> That’s why they’re trying to bring back child labor. “Dig, baby, dig!”

I just caught this as a new story…did you have the inside line on this, or were there similar efforts elsewhere?!

[https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5213592-florida-child-labor-law-changes/](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5213592-florida-child-labor-law-changes/)

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3470 "2025-03-27T19:59:45Z")

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There was this similar article on the same day:

> **[Florida to consider relaxing child labour laws to fill vacant jobs](https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/03/25/florida-to-consider-relaxing-child-labour-laws-to-fill-vacant-jobs)**
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> Now that the United States is cracking down on immigration, some low-skill jobs may not be so easy to fill. So the state is debating lifting some child labour laws to involve minors.

And a week before Paul Krugman, former NYT writer and Nobel Price winner, mused about the attractiveness of sweat shops when making America great again:

> **[Making Sweatshops Great Again](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/making-sweatshops-great-again?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=277517&post_id=158959434&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=203721&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email)**
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> Does Trump want us to manufacture sneakers, not semiconductors?

Both approaches seem related to me, and both will not be beneficial for the people who get those jobs, if they get them at all. But, just as with tariffs, some people seem to think that it is a great idea. Don’t ask me to explain, I can’t understand how they reason (and I use this word generously).

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3471 "2025-03-27T20:02:15Z")

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There’s also the issue of exactly why they expect children to actually volunteer for those jobs, when adults won’t take them…unless of course they don’t intend to give those children a choice in the matter.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3472 "2025-03-27T20:03:07Z")

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Do you know whether minimum wages apply to children or minors in general?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3473 "2025-03-27T20:08:41Z")

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It isn’t _just_ Florida:

> **[Study finds sharp rise in Arkansas child labor violations in years before...](https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2024/11/18/study-finds-sharp-rise-in-arkansas-child-labor-violations-in-years-before-state-rolled-back-work-permit-law)**
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> Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families report warns that the weakening of child labor laws in Arkansas may make it hard to track the exploitation of minors.

> **[Iowa businesses will face smaller fines for violating child labor laws...](https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/11/iowa-child-labor-laws-new-rules-lower-fines-violations/78386755007/)**
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> Businesses that violate the rules governing the time and hours that teenagers may work will face a $2,500 penalty for each instance, down from $10,000.

> **[Lawmakers want to make it easier for kids to work. Labor advocates say that’s...](https://mountainstatespotlight.org/2025/03/12/labor-permits-child-work/)**
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> Lawmakers want to relax West Virginia’s child labor protections. Other states are passing similar measures amid a rise in workplace violations.

I could probably keep going, but … see a pattern? Hint:

[![](https://about.canva.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2019/03/red.png) ](https://about.canva.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2019/03/red.png)

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3474 "2025-03-27T21:23:10Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Trump can’t see coal mines from his golf courses.

There is a course kinda near me named [Cinder Ridge.](https://cinderridgegolf.com/rates/).

Some guy basically designed it himself and carved it out of an old strip mine. It used to be really cool - there were big old rusting pieces of machinery, one stream ran red with iron, just off the rough the land looked like a wasteland that you could imagine Mad Max tearing across. A couple of the sand traps were filled with black coal dust. There was a skeevy mobile home park behind one green.

Over the decades it has been cleaned up, such that now it too closely resembles so many other courses. Haven’t played it for several years. Used to be very affordeable - cheap beer too!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3475 "2025-03-27T21:36:06Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Do you know whether minimum wages apply to children or minors in general?

[In California?](https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/faq_minimumwage.htm) It does. Of course I expect that they intend to eliminate minimum wage; or in cases like this not bother with wages at all. These _are_ the people who admire the Confederacy, after all.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3476 "2025-03-27T21:56:55Z")

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Here I’ve been thinking that Trumps version of a “Great America” was the pre-civil rights era 1950’s. Turns out it’s more like the pre-union era 1890’s.

This shouldn’t be surprising. That was the era of the robber barons. The rich could be extraordinarily rich and who cares about the poor? Sweatshops, tenements, child labor, company towns. The more money the biggest business leaders have, the more they’ll put that to good use to pass laws to bring more money to themselves.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3477 "2025-03-28T00:22:59Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Yeah, but what do you do when the planet runs out of wind or sunlight? I’ll bet you wish you had coal when that happens!

You don’t even have to run out. According to Trump you’ll be happily watching TV and all of a sudden the wind will stop blowing and all the power will go out.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/U3PASPZR_KM/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Tells Absurd Lie About Wind Power | NowThis") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3PASPZR_KM)

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3478 "2025-03-28T00:41:43Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> Here I’ve been thinking that Trumps version of a “Great America” was the pre-civil rights era 1950’s. Turns out it’s more like the pre-union era 1890’s.

Considering hatred of actually paying anyone & his bigotry towards women and non-whites, I expect he’d prefer a combination of the pre-Civil War South and the Republic of Gilead from _The Handmaid’s Tale._

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3479 "2025-03-28T01:11:36Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> I just caught this as a new story…did you have the inside line on this, or were there similar efforts elsewhere?!

I just thought, "What’s the worst thing they could do? – And went a step further.

> [@psychobunny](#):
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> According to Trump you’ll be happily watching TV and all of a sudden the wind will stop blowing and all the power will go out.

So long as he’s in power the wind will never stop. It’s a hot wind, too.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3480 "2025-03-28T11:00:52Z")

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Trump orders “improper ideology” expunged from the Smithsonian.

> **[Trump targets 'improper ideology' at Smithsonian museums in new executive order](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna198503)**
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> The order states that Vice President JD Vance will be in charge of efforts to prohibit federal funding for Smithsonian programs that are not in line with the administration's goals.

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