# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/341 "2024-11-21T13:41:54Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Yeah, that’s the ticket. And what’s the plan when no country agrees to accept the deportees?

Kill them all, probably.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/342 "2024-11-21T14:02:48Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> My High School history class was taught by the football coach.

I realize there is a “coaches are dim” belief, but in my HS the wrestling coach was the biology teacher, and the football coach was the good math teacher. And my wife’s cousin teaches AP World History when not coaching basketball and softball.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/343 "2024-11-21T14:08:46Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> They also floated the possibility of requiring these workers to return to in-person work five days a week, predicting it “would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome.”

Return to where? Much of this office space is gone/consolidated into something else. These people are clueless, but we know that.

This is nothing more than “The beatings will continue, until moral improves”

I know my office is gone. I work county government though, not Fed.

My office is in my home.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/344 "2024-11-21T14:13:56Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Return to where? Much of this office space is gone/consolidated into something else. These people are clueless, but we know that

Well, their plan is to make as many as possible quit, so stuffing 100 people in an office made for 10 will just make that plan more effective.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/345 "2024-11-21T14:26:35Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> faking mass deportations would have been a snap.

Now we have AI! I’m sure it;s trivial for AI to make photos, video even, of mass deportations. No one will notice of the 11M all look the same, or how many fingers (or arms) they have, or it the flag has 25 stripes and 47 stars. The MAGAts won’t be able to tell!

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Kill them all, probably.

You know, i didn’t even have to check the poster name to know who posted this. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/346 "2024-11-21T14:27:47Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> You know, i didn’t even have to check the poster name to know who posted this.

As if that’s an irrational thing to expect from fascist fans of Hitler.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/347 "2024-11-21T15:36:18Z")

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> [@Dawn Buckingham](#):
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> to allow a facility to be built for the processing, detention, and coordination of the largest deportation of violent criminals in the nation’s history

I have 2 questions for Dawn.

1. Have you heard of the German concentration camps, during WWII? And the means half starving, but very determined soldiers escaped. Not a lot, sure, but some did.
2. How soon are you going to cave on this great idea when NIMBY protests start literally everywhere where you plan a camp?

Actually 3 questions:

1. Are you sure you have thought this thing through?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/348 "2024-11-21T15:42:37Z")

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I liked this part

> [@Dawn Buckingham](#):
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> the largest deportation of violent criminals

So, I thought you guys weren’t limiting this to only violent criminals.  
Or are all the Brown people violent criminals now?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/349 "2024-11-21T15:51:51Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> So, I thought you guys weren’t limiting this to only violent criminals.  
> Or are all the Brown people violent criminals now?

This 100%.

What about the criminal Donald J Trump? Violent? No I guess not but certainly a criminal.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/350 "2024-11-21T16:33:47Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And what’s the plan when no country agrees to accept the deportees?

I imagine they’d put some improvised rafts in the Gulf of Mexico, overload them with people, and then shove them in the general direction of Cuba before walking away. “Job done.”

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/351 "2024-11-21T17:06:33Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And now we have [a Texas government official offering land to Trump for “deportation facilities”](https://www.aol.com/texas-land-commissioner-offers-1-163011901.html). (The link goes to AOL.)
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> > Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham is offering the incoming Trump administration 1,402 acres the state purchased along the Texas-Mexico border to be used in a mass deportation operation.
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> > In a letter to President-elect Donald Trump, Buckingham said she’s offering the land “to be used to construct deportation facilities.”
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> > The Texas General Land Office purchased the plot of land from a farmer in October to facilitate Texas’ efforts to build a wall.
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> > “My office is fully prepared to enter into an agreement with the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or the United States Border Patrol to allow a facility to be built for the processing, detention, and coordination of the largest deportation of violent criminals in the nation’s history,” Buckingham [wrote in the letter](https://www.glo.texas.gov/the-glo/news/press-releases/2024/files/11-19-24_trump-donald-starr-county-offer.pdf), dated Tuesday.

I just read her letter, and my reaction was, “Holy shit!”

Besides offering 1,400 acres of land that her office somehow bought from the previous owner who would not allow Trump’s border wall to built on it (and who she then directly blames for enabling “cartel members and violent criminals to sexually abuse migrant women and children”), she goes on to brag that her office recently “survey[ed] several islands in the Rio Grande River and declare[d] them part of the State of Texas” (likely usurping federal jurisdiction and international agreements with Mexico). On the largest of these islands, she crows that “[t]he initiative to secure the island, clear it of all brush and vegetation, and install razor wire along the river was named _Operation Flat Top_.” 🙄

Did I mention that this poor excuse for a human is a “Christian” (not at all surprising), but is also a practicing physician married to another physician, according to her [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_Buckingham)?

She appears to be giving the notorious Nazi doctors a run for their money.

(I’m ashamed to admit that not only am I a native Texan like her, but both my parents also attended her alma mater medical school, the University of Texas Medical Branch [UTMB] in Galveston.)

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/352 "2024-11-21T18:34:55Z")

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Cue the Sad Trombone and the World’s Smallest Violin:

[https://www.ndbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/matt-gaetz-withdraws-bid-attorney-general-sexual-misconduct-allegation-rcna181206](https://www.ndbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/matt-gaetz-withdraws-bid-attorney-general-sexual-misconduct-allegation-rcna181206)

> “… While the momentum was strong, it is clear that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work of the Trump/Vance Transition,” Gaetz wrote in a post on X, just a week after Trump announced he planned to nominate Gaetz to the position.

I’m sure the fact that the House Ethics Committee report would almost certainly be part of his confirmation hearings had _absolutely nothing_ to do with his withdrawal.

(I imagine that since the report involved the term from which Gaetz resigned, DeSantis can now re-appoint him to the same seat without it ever being released.)

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/353 "2024-11-21T18:43:32Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> (I imagine that since the report involved the term from which Gaetz resigned, DeSantis can now re-appoint him to the same seat without it ever being released.)

Governors can’t appoint representatives, only (in some states) senators.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/354 "2024-11-21T18:44:36Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> (I imagine that since the report involved the term from which Gaetz resigned, DeSantis can now re-appoint him to the same seat without it ever being released.)

There’s literally nothing stopping the report from being released, except the personal inclination of members of that committee.

If he tried to get back in, I’m sure it would find it’s way into the public, either officially or unofficially.

Since it seems like pretty much nobody in either party seems to like him, that threat may keep him away. Sort of like garlic for a vampire.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/355 "2024-11-21T18:55:10Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> Governors can’t appoint representatives, only (in some states) senators.

True — I got so caught up in thinking the whole fiasco was a scheme to prevent the report coming out while allowing him to remain in the House that I lost sight of that fact. _Mea culpa_.

And as @Atamasama pointed out, the report is gonna be made public one way or another. I’ve seen at least one (uncomfirmed) report that it’s already been hacked.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/356 "2024-11-21T19:11:43Z")

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Gaetz is out! 😃

One down…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/357 "2024-11-21T20:58:59Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > Yeah, that’s the ticket. And what’s the plan when no country agrees to accept the deportees?
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> Kill them all, probably.

More like let them die. I don’t believe for a second these clowns are thinking about providing decent medical care or adequate nutrition.

> [@enipla](#):
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> What about the criminal Donald J Trump? Violent?

I consider rape a violent crime.

> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> One down…

Good. Better would be _Individual One down_.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/358 "2024-11-21T21:02:05Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I consider rape a violent crime.

While he was never convicted, he was adjudicated to have committed sexual assault by a civil jury. So from a legal perspective he is not a violent criminal, but from a practical perspective he’s the worst kind of violent criminal.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/359 "2024-11-21T21:07:20Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> On the largest of these islands, she crows that “[t]he initiative to secure the island, clear it of all brush and vegetation, and install razor wire along the river was named _Operation Flat Top_.” 🙄

And when there is a big climate change induced rain storm causes the river flood and subsuming the island, the drowning of every migrant washed against the razor wire is an added bonus.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/360 "2024-11-21T21:20:01Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I consider rape a violent crime.

Ahh. Right. Of course it is. Put him on the bus.

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