# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 182
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3681 "2025-04-02T18:09:20Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > The only indication that they have any authority to do what they’re doing is that they’re wearing jackets with ICE on the back and the fact that they keep screaming “ICE! ICE! Get down on the ground!” or waving threatening weapons around. I have to wonder, at what point do actual kidnappers start using this tactic? I mean, ICE claiming “Those weren’t our guys!” wouldn’t be believed by anybody at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3682 "2025-04-02T19:12:08Z")
Dementia Donny apparently thinks he can put tariffs on illegally smuggled fentanyl. > **['Just plain dumb': Trump ridiculed after latest anti-Canada rant](https://www.rawstory.com/just-plain-dumb-trump-ridiculed-after-latest-anti-canada-rant/)** > > In a late-night tirade against top Senate Republicans, President Donald Trump—repeating a claim he made earlier in the week—insisted that smuggled fentanyl can be subjected to tariffs, drawing widespread ridicule, including from conservatives. He... ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3683 "2025-04-02T19:30:51Z")
I must admit that it would be a good idea, if it worked 🤣 Almost as good as imposing tariffs on things the government buys. Like weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3684 "2025-04-02T19:47:16Z")
He really does seem to have latched on to “tariffs” as some sort of magical thing that can do anything he wants them to do. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3685 "2025-04-02T19:50:02Z")
I’ll miss these updates when you go, @Smapti. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3686 "2025-04-02T20:27:50Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I have to wonder, at what point do actual kidnappers start using this tactic? > **[Suspect behind fake ICE vehicle spotted in WA identified](https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/wa-fake-ice-vehicle-arrested)** > > Police identified and charged a 26-year-old Washington man for impersonating an immigration agent, after allegedly stalking a Ukrainian market with fake “ICE" decals on his car. > **FIFE, Wash.** - Police identified and charged a 26-year-old Washington man for impersonating an immigration agent, after allegedly [stalking a Ukrainian market with fake “ICE” decals](https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/fife-police-fake-ice-vehicle) on his car. > > Authorities say around 5 p.m. on March 16, an SUV with fake “ICE” decals — impersonating U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement — stalked the parking lot of the Emish Market in Fife, Washington. Apparently, according to another article, the Ukrainian man did this as a YouTube stunt. It said [emphasis mine], ‘Court records say the SUV bore white “ICE” lettering and a Homeland Security-style decal, but it was misspelled as the **“S.U. Department of ICE Deliveries.”** ’ ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3687 "2025-04-02T20:40:44Z")
There’s a Ukrainian market in Fife? I have been gone a long time. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3688 "2025-04-02T20:50:01Z")
I actually have heard of people staging fake ICE raids, either for social media posts or to harass people or businesses. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3689 "2025-04-02T20:58:34Z")
THE PRESIDENT’S BRAIN IS MISSING, Liberation Day edition; “An old fashioned term that we use – groceries. I used it on the campaign. It’s such an old fashioned term, but a beautiful term. Groceries. It says a bag with different things in it.” > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llub5svqod2o)** > > Trump: "An old fashioned term that we use -- groceries. I used it on the campaign. It's such an old fashioned term, but a beautiful term. Groceries. It says a bag with different things in it." “In 1913, for reason unknown to mankind, they established the income tax.” > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llu7rbszuo2h)** > > Trump: "From 1789 to 1913, we were a tariff-backed nation and the US was proportionately the wealthiest it has ever been ... then in 1913, for reason unknown to mankind, they established the income tax." “Maybe the numbers won’t show” > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lluauwq3ds2w)** > > Trump touts stock market gains during his first term, then claims he'll do better in his second term but "maybe the numbers won't show" "“Prime Minister of Japan, ahhh, Shinzo, was – Shinzo Abe – he was a fantastic man.” > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lluaaau6bd2x)** > > Trump: "Prime Minister of Japan, ahhh, Shinzo, was -- Shinzo Abe -- he was a fantastic man. He was unfortunately taken from us. Assassination." “European Union, they’re very tough. Very very tough traders. You know, you think of European Union – very friendly. They rip us off. It’s so sad to see. It’s so pathetic. 39 percent. We’re gonna charge them 20 percent. So we’re charging them essentially half. Vietnam – great negotiators” > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llua5m6the2c)** > > Trump: "European Union, they're very tough. Very very tough traders. You know, you think of European Union -- very friendly. They rip us off. It's so sad to see. It's so pathetic. 39 percent. We're gonna charge them 20 percent. So we're charging them... “Canada tariffs cans of milk” > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llu7it666q25)** > > Trump complains that Canada tariffs "cans of milk" “Thigh Thailand” > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llu7adcezi2x)** > > Trump almost calls Thailand "Thigh-land" And people think this thing is gonna be able to serve a third term? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3690 "2025-04-02T21:07:46Z")
Hell, I’ll be surprised if he makes it through his second term. Between his physical deficiencies, his unhealthy lifestyle, and his mental decline, I have a feeling that something is going to give before 2028. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3691 "2025-04-02T21:33:27Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > There’s a Ukrainian market in Fife? I have been gone a long time. I knew there was a large Russian population here when I moved up. I assumed there were Ukrainians as well. Just did a quick search and found this: > Washington state is home to more than 60,000 Ukrainian Americans and has welcomed over 16,000 Ukrainian refugees since the war began. Feb 13, 2024 Fife is half a state away from me. Haven’t gone there. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3692 "2025-04-02T23:09:58Z")
Trump has placed tariffs on two uninhabited islands off the coast of Antarctica, and for some reason the Norwegian island of Svalbard is subject to a lighter tariff than the rest of Norway. > **['America's real enemies': Trump mocked as tariffs hit tiny islands — some...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mocked-for-tariffs-on-random-islands-including-uninhabited-antarctic-volcanoes/)** > > When President Donald Trump announced his "Liberation Day" imposition of "reciprocal tariffs" of 10 to 49 percent on essentially every foreign import in the world, market futures reacted by going into freefall. But Trump also triggered widespread... ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3693 "2025-04-02T23:48:09Z")
> [@Maus\_Magill](#): > > Hell, there are plenty of natural born citizens in New Mexico who don’t speak English. Ditto for Arizona and not just Spanish but also [Diné](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo) and [Hopílavayi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopi). > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > He really does seem to have latched on to “tariffs” as some sort of magical thing that can do anything he wants them to do. It’s the new Sharpie. [![](https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1127/production/_108619340_hi056250355.jpg) ](https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1127/production/_108619340_hi056250355.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3694 "2025-04-03T03:32:40Z")
Masterful gambit, sir [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rx3v6x4vdzamb4ntjz7fhws4/bafkreidiwruqfuyhmtnnpqvda5njspv7rkm2jrx23tc5fp2j7m7vcwp6rq@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rx3v6x4vdzamb4ntjz7fhws4/bafkreidiwruqfuyhmtnnpqvda5njspv7rkm2jrx23tc5fp2j7m7vcwp6rq@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3695 "2025-04-03T04:03:14Z")
YouGov pays people to do polls. I wouldn’t, necessarily, put much stock in their results. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3696 "2025-04-03T05:26:28Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > YouGov pays people to do polls. I wouldn’t, necessarily, put much stock in their results. I do YouGov polls and always answer honestly( I know that’s not helpful to your point). They don’t pay much (it’s a point system with a reward after each benchmark). I completely agree that it’s easy for bad actors to influence the outcome but it takes a LOT of surveys to earn even a $15 gift card. I guess I can’t picture too many ne’er do wells with the time and patience to slog through the sometimes very long surveys. Geez, that screen shot looks like the survey I took earlier today. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3697 "2025-04-03T05:34:37Z")
I do too. I couldn’t count the times that I got bored with the poll and just clicked randomly. Don’t do that, they notice and suspend accounts for it. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3698 "2025-04-03T05:37:43Z")
I’ve definitely gotten board, especially when there’s not a “not applicable” choice. When I get one of those, I add constructive comments. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3699 "2025-04-03T13:10:39Z")
Paul Krugman responds to Trump’s speech, via the Rachel Maddow Show and Blog: > [@](#): > > Trump’s tariff announcement was full-on crazy. Not only is he imposing higher tariffs than almost anyone expected, but he’s justifying them with completely false claims about other countries’ tariffs. I don’t know where his numbers are coming from, but they have nothing to do with reality. … It’s a really bad day for the U.S. economy. > **[Trump’s pitch on tariffs was built on a foundation of strange lies](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-speech-tariffs-fact-check-white-house-rcna199456)** > > The problem is not just that the president lied while touting his tariffs. The problem is made worse by the apparent fact that he felt like he had to lie. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3700 "2025-04-03T17:45:31Z")
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