# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3721 "2025-04-04T13:47:53Z")

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Greenland!!!  
Trump visits…“They lied!!!”

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3722 "2025-04-04T14:56:27Z")

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In a rare moment of self-doubt and introspection, Trump begins to have second thoughts.

NAAAAHHHHHHH. Just kidding!

> **[Trump tells investors 'my policies will never change' as markets plummet...](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-tells-investors-my-policies-will-never-change-as-markets-plummet-after-his-shock-tariff-announcements-140704607.html)**
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> President Trump said in a social media post that his policies "will never change" as stocks continued to tank on his recent tariff escalation.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3723 "2025-04-04T15:17:25Z")

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“My policies will never change. Except when they do.”

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3724 "2025-04-04T15:19:42Z")

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I’m disappointed. I thought he would claim the markets would turn around

…in two weeks

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3725 "2025-04-04T15:25:52Z")

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Just to point out the obvious:

> In a post on his social media platform Truth Social, the president said, “TO THE MANY INVESTORS COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND INVESTING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, MY POLICIES WILL NEVER CHANGE. THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO GET RICH, RICHER THAN EVER BEFORE!!!”

This is like the crash of 2008/9: wealthy institutional investors snapped up large numbers of the homes that were lost by people of modest means.

The vast majority of the recovery inured to the benefit of the wealthiest Americans.

IOW: a redistribution of wealth – straight upward. They really aren’t even trying to hide it anymore.

I know he’s also begging the wealthy to help the market find its floor so he doesn’t look like he’s handling this worse than he handled COVID, but he’s certainly selling it as the ultimate perverse incentive.

First, last, and always … a fucking predator.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3726 "2025-04-04T15:32:27Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> In a rare moment of self-doubt and introspection, Trump begins to have second thoughts.
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> NAAAAHHHHHHH. Just kidding!

Is there a way to quantify the magnitude of the Dunning-Kruger effect in a person?

I can see this:

**Aide** : Mr. President, your Dunning-Kruger test results are back.  
**Trump** : How’d I do?  
**Aide** : You scored a 100.  
**Trump** : Perfect score! I knew I would get the most perfect score!  
**Aide** : Actually Mr. President, the scoring scale is only supposed to go to 25, and like in golf, a lower score is better. Your reaction is actually an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.  
**Trump** : Perfect score!

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3727 "2025-04-04T15:38:37Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> IOW: a redistribution of wealth – straight upward. They really aren’t even trying to hide it anymore.

I fear a worse plan. Crash the economy and buy up all the basics of life (and why buy foreclosed houses when you can buy mortgage companies?) and turn the entire country into a ‘company town’.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3728 "2025-04-04T16:37:56Z")

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Well the Dow Jones went from over 42,000 to under 39,000 in a few days due to Trump’s tariffs. A lot of people’s retirement goals will be affected by this.

Fuck everyone who voted for this dangerous moron.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3729 "2025-04-04T16:42:36Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Well the Dow Jones went from over 42,000 to under 39,000 in a few days due to Trump’s tariffs.

I mentioned in the P&E thread that it was 43,900 the day I moved my T. Rowe Price Fund into the Money Market Fund. So down 4,900 since the beginning of March. 😡

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3730 "2025-04-04T16:43:49Z")

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Just dipped into the 38’s.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3731 "2025-04-04T17:22:00Z")

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On it’s way to the 37’s.

We are now back to where the Dow was over a year ago.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3732 "2025-04-04T17:28:45Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I mentioned in the P&E thread that it was 43,900 the day I moved my T. Rowe Price Fund into the Money Market Fund. So down 4,900 since the beginning of March.

I’m sure it is not your intent, but please realize that your repeated “bragging” on this does little other than increase the stress experienced by those of us who were less insightful.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3733 "2025-04-04T17:31:25Z")

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Sorry. I’m very upset and worried, and too old to start over.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3734 "2025-04-04T17:36:08Z")

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Like I said - I assumed you did not realize the added stress that could result from hearing of other persons’ wise moves. We are eating dinner with a couple tonight, and are already girding ourselves for hearing the guy crow over having made moves similar to yours.

I’m PRETTY confident my investments will eventually climb back. And I’m well diversified and not overly in tech. And I realize the challenges of timing the market. Just so often in retrospect it is frustrating to think how much easier it would be to climb back out if the initial drop had not been as abrupt/deep.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3735 "2025-04-04T18:50:35Z")

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As mentioned by @wguy123 we may end up below 38k today. Its currently at 38,423.

I’m glad I have a long way to retirement, but a lot of people age 50+ are probably really sweating.

I have been wrong about Trump every step of the way, and this is no different.

I honestly thought that once Trump started causing pain and suffering for corporations and the rich, that moderate voters and the republican party would turn on him. But I was wrong again. Trump truly is made of teflon. I thought it was just his MAGA cult that was beyond moral and intellectual salvation. I really think the vast majority of his 77 million voters are beyond salvation. Not even when Trump causes massive harm to the rich and powerful, and not even when he causes massive harm to retirees does he face consequences.

I could honestly see tens of millions of ‘moderate’ republicans eating dog food in 3 years and voting for Trump for a 3rd term because they ‘didn’t like the way Kamala laughed’

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3736 "2025-04-04T19:33:05Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I could honestly see tens of millions of ‘moderate’ republicans eating dog food in 3 years and voting for Trump for a 3rd term because they ‘didn’t like the way Kamala laughed’

TRUMP Dog Food!! It’s MAGA-licious!

They donned [NPI] **diapers** in support of the melon felon:

> **[Trump Supporters Wore Diapers at Rallies?](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-photos-purportedly-show-174100807.html)**
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> Images showed people holding signs that said "Real men wear diapers."

Would dog food really be a stretch (and, if not, maybe the diapers _along with_ the dog food – better safe than sorry)?

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3737 "2025-04-04T19:35:12Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> TRUMP Dog Food!! It’s MAGA-licious!

Soylent Orange?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3738 "2025-04-04T19:35:42Z")

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[Let’s not forget just how compassionate this administration is.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/usaid-workers-pregnant-wife-denied-191528028.html)

> [@](#):
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> A [fired USAID worker](https://www.advocate.com/voices/doge-trump-musk-usaid-opinion) is speaking out after her [pregnant](https://www.advocate.com/tag/pregnancy)wife was denied an emergency medical evacuation after experiencing “life-threatening” complications abroad.
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> Charlee Doom, a Conflict Specialist with the State Department who has worked in places such as Somalia and Myanmar, was serving as USAID’s Deputy Director for Economic Growth and Food Security Coordinator for Burma when she learned she was fired. Doom had been living with her wife, who was pregnant at the time, and their young child in [Bangkok](https://www.advocate.com/news/60-photos-bangkok-thailand-pride), [Thailand](https://www.advocate.com/voices/thailand-laws-transgender).
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> Doom’s wife was 31 weeks pregnant when she began suffering complications that were deemed “life-threatening.” The couple requested an emergency medical evacuation, which she said the U.S. State Department denied — twice.
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> “My wife was the first person that I have been able to find in the entire 61-year history of USAID that was denied an obstetric medical evacuation, which is a standard right of all foreign service officers and their families,” Doom recently told [CNN’s Jake Tapper](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/02/politics/video/charlee-doom-intv-medical-evacuation-pregnant-wife-digvid). “And she was denied that right because Peter Marocco and others that are part of this administration deemed the funding for medical evacuation and hospitalization support for USAID officers wasn’t necessary. And so, they zeroed that line item out.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3739 "2025-04-04T19:39:12Z")

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HANK TOUGH!

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3740 "2025-04-04T19:56:14Z")

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I guess I should be careful with sarcasm in this fucked up shadow universe:

> [@Mijin](#):
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> I checked and the US has a trade deficit of $10B with sub-saharan Africa. They’re making out like bandits!

…because this is exactly the kind of logic employed. Losotho for example has been hit with a 50% tariff.

> **[How Lesotho, South Africa, Nigeria and Kenya are hit by Donald Trump's tariffs](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8dgmyzqr6do)**
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> Only Chinese goods are facing higher US tariffs than exports from Lesotho, which will be charged at 50%.

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