# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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The cluster calendar:

The [“I love me” parade](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-admin-planning-grand-parade-205526861.html) (4 miles from the Pentagon in Arlington, VA, to the White House in Washington, DC. hasn’t been ruled out yet. This alone should canx it.

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> “Military tanks on our streets would not be good,” Bowser said Monday. “If military tanks were used, they should be accompanied with many millions of dollars to repair the roads.”

Bowser is the Mayor of Washington.

But, hey, let’s not worry about that so much. What about having fifty pavilions open for an entire year? (Same link)

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> “I will work with all 50 governors, Republican and Democrat alike, to create the Great American State Fair, a unique one-year exhibition featuring pavilions from all 50 states. It’ll be something.”

Yeah, that’s not going to happen; at least not in the Washington, DC metropolitan area.

[SCOTUS, again, swings and whiffs.](https://www.aol.com/supreme-court-lifts-order-blocking-230315436.html)

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> WASHINGTON (AP) — The [Supreme Court](https://apnews.com/hub/us-supreme-court) on Monday allowed the Trump administration to use an 18th century [wartime law](https://apnews.com/article/alien-enemies-trump-immigration-deportations-21a62ede23b8c493b60d00a9c125722f) to [deport Venezuelan migrants](https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-el-salvador-immigration-dd4f61999f85c4dd8bcaba7d4fc7c9af), but said they must get a court hearing before they are taken from the United States.
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> In a bitterly divided decision, the court said the administration must give Venezuelans who it claims are gang members “reasonable time” to go to court.
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> But the conservative majority said the legal challenges must take place in Texas, instead of a Washington courtroom.

How many times does this have to be said? _ **We are not at war.** _

[But the cluster loves 'em some criminal gun dealers, don’t they?](https://www.aol.com/news/us-justice-department-repeals-biden-220930518.html)

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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. Justice Department on Monday repealed a Biden-era “zero tolerance” policy which called for revoking the licenses of gun dealers who willfully committed serious violations such as failing to conduct background checks, an FBI spokesperson said.
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> The reversal of the policy, which was touted by the conservative Gun Owners of America group before any official government announcement was made, follows President Donald Trump ordering the department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to conduct a wholesale review of all of the gun regulations implemented under his Democratic predecessor President Joe Biden.

Occam’s Razor applies here, of course. The reason for reversing this is because it was put in place by Biden.

[The 2 Idiots pontificate on the tarrifs.](https://www.aol.com/republicans-ted-cruz-rand-paul-143912220.html)

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> As fallout continues from President [Donald Trump](https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/donald-trump)’s destabilizing tariff policy on virtually all U.S. trading partners, some Republican senators are warning about the risks for American families.
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> But so far, there are limited signs of any widespread cracks in overall GOP support for Trump or prospects for any congressional attempt to rein him in.
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> Sen. Ted Cruz, a Texas Republican and ardent Trump supporter, made headlines when he spoke out – first on Fox News last week and in recent days on his podcast “Verdict.”
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> “Tariffs are a tax on consumers, and I’m not a fan of jacking up taxes on American consumers, so my hope is these tariffs are short-lived, and they serve as leverage to lower tariffs across the globe,” Cruz told Fox Business host Larry Kudlow.

No need to quote Paul’s parrotting of Cruz. Honestly, the only thing I want to hear from any republican in congress is “I resign”. I certainly don’t want to hear this dissembling in support of an actual criminal.

[SCOTUS blows it yet again.](https://www.aol.com/trump-administration-asks-supreme-court-151238281.html)

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> WASHINGTON (AP) — Chief Justice John Roberts agreed Monday to pause a midnight deadline for the Trump administration to return a Maryland man mistakenly deported to a notorious prison in El Salvador.
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> The temporary order comes hours after a Justice Department emergency appeal to the Supreme Court arguing U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis overstepped her authority when she ordered [Kilmar Abrego Garcia](https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-deportation-maryland-man-trump-error-818a0fa1218de714448edcb5be1f7347) returned to the United States.
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> The administration has conceded that Abrego Garcia should not have been sent to El Salvador because an immigration judge found he likely would face persecution by local gangs.
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> But he is no longer in U.S. custody and the government has no way to get him back, the administration argued.

We don’t need no female admirals! So, let’s [fire the woman over the weekend](https://www.aol.com/trump-administration-fires-senior-navy-235545675.html).

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> WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. Navy Vice Adm. Shoshana Chatfield, the only woman on NATO’s military committee, was fired over the weekend by the Trump administration, U.S. officials said Monday.
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> Although no reason was given, officials said it was apparently tied to comments she has made that supported diversity in the force.
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> According to the officials, Chatfield got a call from Adm. Christopher Grady, the acting chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and was told the administration wanted to go in a different direction with the job.
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> The officials said they believe the decision was made last week by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, but it was unclear whether he received any direction from President Donald Trump. Three U.S. officials spoke about the firing on condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters.
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> Chatfield is the third top female officer to be fired since Trump took office. Hegseth announced in February that he was firing the chief of naval operations, Adm. Lisa Franchetti. And Trump fired [Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Linda Fagan](https://apnews.com/article/biden-united-states-alejandro-mayorkas-us-coast-guard-government-and-politics-8b589577fa03f04f3ce096e2bbf98928) just a day after he was sworn in.

Any guesses on the actual reason she was canxed?

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> [@Monty](#):
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> But, hey, let’s not worry about that so much. What about having fifty pavilions open for an entire year? (Same link)
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> > “I will work with all 50 governors, Republican and Democrat alike, to create the Great American State Fair, a unique one-year exhibition featuring pavilions from all 50 states. It’ll be something.”
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> Yeah, that’s not going to happen; at least not in the Washington, DC metropolitan area.

As a Canadian, I am certainly glad he didn’t say “all 51 states.”

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I am certainly glad he didn’t say “all 51 states.”

I don’t think Trump has mentioned the “Canada should be our great 51st state” once since Carney took over. Either someone managed to convince him that he’s handing the Liberals victory when they were all but doomed before, or this whole thing was about Justin Trudeau making kissy faces at his alleged wife.

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What’s four miles long and has an IQ of 1?  
A Donald Trump Parade!

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I don’t think Trump has mentioned the “Canada should be our great 51st state” once since Carney took over.

At the risk of a hijack, I think Carney scares Trump. You don’t get to be the governor of the Bank of Canada, much less the Bank of England, without a detailed knowledge of economics. Carney has been both. Trump? Well, a few failed casinos, a failed university, a failed steak company, and nothing like Carney’s experience with economics. Trump perceived Trudeau as weak and uneducated, thus worthy of bullying, but I think he’s afraid of trying to bully Carney. Who knows, Carney might send Chrystia Freeland back into trade talks. Trump would hate that; in the last round of talks, it was plain that she scared him.

Back to military parades, I seem to recall that the reason that he couldn’t have one in Washington in his first term was because Washington streets couldn’t support the weight of tanks, missile carriers, and so on. Such things would ruin the street to the point where it would require repaving. So, he had flypasts of aircraft from the military branches.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I think Carney scares Trump.

That could be. He was absolutely terrified of Angela Merkel last time around.

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Sometime you have to admire a straightforward approach:

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> # [HE REALLY IS THAT STUPID](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/4/7/2315206/-HE-REALLY-IS-THAT-STUPID)
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> by rogereaton  
> The President of the United States is a fucking moron. I do not know why more media and Democrats do not call him out for his belief on trade deficits.
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> The reason he keeps repeating that other nations are taking advantage of the US is because the great businessman believes that trade deficits are actual cash that other nations are taking from the US.
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> He mentions this all the time but no one ever brings up the fact that the Orange Mussolini had no idea how trade works. He believes the tariffs will help close the trade gap and therefore “make” money for the US. The guy is an unmitigated dumb fuck and our nation is screwed unless he dies or suddenly becomes coherent on trade.

> **[HE REALLY IS THAT STUPID](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/4/7/2315206/-HE-REALLY-IS-THAT-STUPID?utm_campaign=trending)**
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> The President of the United States is a fucking moron. I do not know why more media and Democrats do not call him out for his belief on trade deficits. The reason he keeps repeating that other nations are taking advantage of the US is because the...

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Navarro might be dumber than Trump.

He’s “guaranteeing” Dow 50,000 (what economist talks about the Dow? It’s a useless index)  
He’s “guaranteeing” no recession  
“There’s not going to be any inflation,”

[https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5237477-peter-navarro-recession-donald-trump-tariffs/](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5237477-peter-navarro-recession-donald-trump-tariffs/)

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_He’s “guaranteeing” Dow 50,000_  
Positive or negative?  
_He’s “guaranteeing” no recession_  
So, a depression it is then.  
_“There’s not going to be any inflation,”_  
Is hyper-inflation really inflation?

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Any guesses on the actual reason she was canxed?

'Cause she was uppity?

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> He’s “guaranteeing” Dow 50,000

Did he happen to say when that would happen?

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Oh, is this one of those Kevin Hassett things? Is Navarro also using a cubic polynomial fit in Excel to make this “prediction”?

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Is Navarro also using a cubic polynomial fit in Excel to make this “prediction”?

I think he read it in an economics column penned by the noted financial expert Ron Varo.

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I’d trust it more if he cited Ron Burgundy

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> At the risk of a hijack, I think Carney scares Trump.

Your post made me wonder if much of anything/anyone really “scares” Trump. I think he has such an extreme combination of stupidity and ego that he really thinks he can bluster through just about anything. He is also a coward and a bully. I’m not sure bullies are “afraid” of more capable potential opponents as much as they simply view them as impediments to be avoided as they seek weaker victims.

And, if anything turns out differently that he had wanted, well, he will be certain that it wasn’t his fault and that he was treated unfairly.

If anything, Carney DOES potentially point out how readily Trump backs down from any sign of strength and competence. Makes you wonder why more such folk do not readily appear?

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Your post made me wonder if much of anything/anyone really “scares” Trump.

Germs.

(Not that you’d know it from his response to COVID.)

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I see it as a reflection of what we see on this board.

Otherwise intelligent posters who do acknowledge Trump isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed somehow, mystifyingly, give him credit for having some sort of ‘plan’. Maybe not 5D chess but still at least 2D chess.

Even after all this time, it is unfathomable to them that a man almost purely driven by id can achieve high office and be in position to do such things. And yet, here we are.

Many people expect some “there” to actually be there. But nope. It’s idiots and sycophants almost all the way down.

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Otherwise intelligent posters who do acknowledge Trump isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed somehow, mystifyingly, give him credit for having some sort of ‘plan’. Maybe not 5D chess but still at least 2D chess.
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> Even after all this time, it is unfathomable to them that a man almost purely driven by id can achieve high office and be in position to do such things. And yet, here we are.

On another forum I called it “romantic cynicism”. There’s a lot of people who are perfectly willing to call Trump and other powerful people evil or corrupt, but just can’t bring themselves to call them stupid. I think it just offends their sense of how the world works that the people in power can be such utter fools, and they _really want_ to believe that we are all being screwed over by evil masterminds. Instead of evil idiots.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I think Carney scares Trump.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> That could be. He was absolutely terrified of Angela Merkel last time around.

I think the same is true of the President of Mexico, Claudia Sheinbaum. At the very least, he respects her, and you know that’s not easy for him. Notice that there are no new tariffs being levelled on Mexico.

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If total idiots can beat us like that, then what does that make us?

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