# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3861 "2025-04-08T21:36:49Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> And what’s up with Elon Musk’s love of schoolyard insults, anyway?

Well, he’s an emotionally stunted, silver-spoon suckling, nepo-baby man-child just like you-know-who.

If either one pitched a little hissy fit and screamed ‘Mommy said I could’ it wouldn’t surprise me in the least. We’re being governed by Veruca Salt and Caillou.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3862 "2025-04-08T21:46:00Z")

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Don’t forget the embarrassment of having Maye Musk publicly defending her middle aged billionaire son from taunts online. No matter what else people may say about him, that is truly emasculating.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3863 "2025-04-08T22:05:07Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Looks like we’re getting coal, maybe the clean kind??

Well, there you go. Think about all the jobs that will be created to wash the coal to get it clean.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3864 "2025-04-08T22:06:31Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> We’re being governed by Veruca Salt and Caillou.

Given the choice, [Veruca Salt](https://youtu.be/nneYpx5bk60?si=4uHsEFdVlBYuwG6s) would be pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3865 "2025-04-08T22:09:49Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Looks like we’re getting coal,

And since no one has their Christmas stocking up, we’re getting it in our IRAs.

> [@Locrian](#):
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> maybe the clean kind??

Yeah, right. Like that’s even a thing.

In the first T admin, someone made a deal to sell more metallurgical coal. This was paraded around by Trump as being a comeback for coal. In actuality, it was a small hiccup in the continued drop in the coal business.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3866 "2025-04-08T22:10:14Z")

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Remember two days ago when the admin talking point was that the future of American labor was making iphones by hand?

Trump doesn’t. The new talking point is now “the children long for the mines”.

"“One thing I learned about the coal miners – that’s what they want to do. You could give them a penthouse on 5th Avenue and a different kind of a job and they’d be unhappy. They want to mine coal. She was gonna put them in a high tech industry where you make little cell phones and things.”

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lmdc4hyqkb27)**
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> Trump: "One thing I learned about the coal miners -- that's what they want to do. You could give them a penthouse on 5th Avenue and a different kind of a job and they'd be unhappy. They want to mine coal. She was gonna put them in a high tech...

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3867 "2025-04-08T22:14:15Z")

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[This one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YrK1Rq7AKk) suits my mood these days.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3868 "2025-04-08T22:55:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Remember two days ago when the admin talking point was that the future of American labor was making iphones by hand?
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> Trump doesn’t. The new talking point is now “the children long for the mines”.
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> "“One thing I learned about the coal miners – that’s what they want to do. You could give them a penthouse on 5th Avenue and a different kind of a job and they’d be unhappy. They want to mine coal. She was gonna put them in a high tech industry where you make little cell phones and things.”

Reminds me of the old claim that black people _liked_ to be slaves, so it was wrong to free them.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3869 "2025-04-08T23:01:42Z")

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That’ll eliminate any picayune downside associated with confusing “miner” with “minor.”

Which is something, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3870 "2025-04-08T23:33:07Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The new talking point is now “the children long for the mines”.
> 
> "“One thing I learned about the coal miners – that’s what they want to do. You could give them a penthouse on 5th Avenue and a different kind of a job and they’d be unhappy. They want to mine coal. She was gonna put them in a high tech industry where you make little cell phones and things.”

Reprise from _The Roar of the Greasepaint, the Smell of the Crowd._ Sung by [Cyril Ritchard](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Ritchard).

> There are so many things I remember  
> From those deeply revered days of old.  
> When living was gentle and gracious,  
> and working folk did as they’re told.
> 
> They were wonderful days I remember,  
> when a fellow could live like a king.  
> And children were working in coal mines,  
> and life was a beautiful thing.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3871 "2025-04-08T23:37:33Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Keep in mind fiction is burdened by having to make sense whereas reality is unburdened by such trivialities.

Such as this?

[![](https://sfo3.digitaloceanspaces.com/taspaces/media_attachments/files/114/304/953/601/474/496/original/25a4a67dc0e594b5.jpeg) ](https://sfo3.digitaloceanspaces.com/taspaces/media_attachments/files/114/304/953/601/474/496/original/25a4a67dc0e594b5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3872 "2025-04-08T23:57:11Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I don’t recall hearing about this before. Very weird

The simplest explanation is that its not based on anything. Somebody told him some American cars can’t be sold in certain countries because they don’t meet that countries standards. So then he just made up a dramatically absurd standard to illustrate how unfair it was. We are well beyond the point where his lies have to have any association with anything real.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3873 "2025-04-09T00:23:37Z")

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I’m not sure Trump knows that he’s president right now and isn’t still campaigning.

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lmdpcn2lcs2s)**
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> it's April 8, 2025, and Trump is polling his fellow Republicans about whether they should call Biden "crooked" or "sleepy"

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3874 "2025-04-09T00:43:03Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> “Boys will be boys”? Shouldn’t presidential advisors be, you know, _adults?_ And what’s up with Elon Musk’s love of schoolyard insults, anyway?

Why should they be when the person they’re purportedly advising isn’t?

Re your query about schoolyard insults: Huh? Do you not know this is Trump’s hand-picked group? Again, why should they be any different from him in that matter?

> [@dtilque](#):
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> > [@Locrian](#):
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> > Looks like we’re getting coal,
> 
> And since no one has their Christmas stocking up

_Very_ well done, @dtilque

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Remember two days ago when the admin talking point was that the future of American labor was making iphones by hand?
> 
> Trump doesn’t. The new talking point is now “the children long for the mines”.

Who says they can’t make the iPhones in the shaft? After all, this admin has been shafting the country since Day One of _Felon47, the Revenge Tour_.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Reminds me of the old claim that black people _liked_ to be slaves, so it was wrong to free them.

Here’s how far into the Looking Glass world we are. I have to ask if you mean _old_ as in “it’s been around for a long time” or “these old fuckers in office now are the ones making it”?

Not to be outdone by the missteps in both the executive and legislative branches of our government, [SCOTUS has now halted the rehiring of fired federal workers](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-supreme-court-halts-reinstatement-163634805.html).

> [@](#):
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> WASHINGTON — The [U.S. Supreme Court](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/supreme-court/) blocked on Tuesday a judge’s order for [President Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/)’s administration to [rehire thousands of fired employees](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-supreme-court-challenging-judges-143924038.html), acting in a dispute over his effort to slash the federal workforce and dismantle parts of the government.
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> The court put on hold San Francisco-based U.S. Judge William Alsup’s March 13 injunction requiring six federal agencies to reinstate thousands of recently hired probationary employees while litigation challenging the legality of the dismissals continues.
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> The court in a brief, [unsigned order](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25888986-4825-scotus-order-in-probationary-workers-case/) said the nine nonprofit organizations that were granted an injunction in response to their lawsuit hadn’t demonstrated they have the legal standing to sue. The court said that its order did not address claims by other plaintiffs in the case, “which did not form the basis of the district court’s preliminary injunction.”

Our government is now officially a circus with all three rings. What it seems to be lacking is a single ringmaster.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3875 "2025-04-09T01:06:31Z")

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Could it be related to tests like the one mentioned [here](https://schapmachine.com/product/impact-testers/automotive-glass-impact-tester/)?

> European Regulation 43 (2.1-2.1.4). The set up is used for testing impact resistance of rigid or soft glass used in automotive applications. This is done by dropping a 227 gram (g) steel ball freely from a height of two (2) meters (m), onto the center of a 300 millimeter (mm) square test sample.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3876 "2025-04-09T01:13:37Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> I think my joke wasn’t ambitious enough. Your boy Donnie is looking for that 4th digit.

When come back bring economics thesis … and some familiarity with geography.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3877 "2025-04-09T01:20:38Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> Could it be related to tests like the one mentioned [here](https://schapmachine.com/product/impact-testers/automotive-glass-impact-tester/)?

Probably not.

I understand the urge to find some semblance of rationality in his nonsensical ramblings. Fight this urge. It leads many to sanewashing.

Occasionally, one may find a very loose correlation with something real, but it is so far removed from the origin as to be almost unrecognizable. Trying to find method within the madness serves no purpose - there’s no “there” there.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3878 "2025-04-09T01:20:53Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> Could it be related to tests like the one mentioned [here](https://schapmachine.com/product/impact-testers/automotive-glass-impact-tester/)?

At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Trump signed an executive order banning seat belts. After all, safety standards, including seat belts and auto glass, just add cost to the price of a car, making it more expensive.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3879 "2025-04-09T01:22:27Z")

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Fair!

My first thought was the bird impact test for aircraft windshields, then I figured there probably was an automotive standard…

…agreed though, making sense of Trump is an impossible task, but hey, at least I learned something!

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3880 "2025-04-09T01:33:44Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Occasionally, one may find a very loose correlation with something real, but it is so far removed from the origin as to be almost unrecognizable. Trying to find method within the madness serves no purpose - there’s no “there” there.

On the other hand, there have been instances in the past of high correlation with some things not real:

[Did Donald Trump Actually Confuse _Sicario 2_ with Reality?](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/donald-trump-sicario?srsltid=AfmBOor7p31bjyfUMzvhaYwuUh2fkMxNtU6DUm5qp9j_1ZcZx3yFY5Ha)

_Here’s why people think the president may be conflating the crime drama with actual events at the U.S.-Mexico border._  
[January 18, 2019]

> However . . . what Trump describes is, once again, a plot point in the _Sicario_ franchise. Could it be, then, that real governmental talking points are being lifted from movies, so that Trump can find new reasons to justify his proposed, costly border wall? _Vanity Fair_ has reached out to the White House for comment.

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