# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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GOOD NEWS! Measles prevents autism!

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37 and counting in Kansas.

[https://www.ksn.com/news/health/kansas-measles-outbreak-governor-to-provide-update-today-in-garden-city/](https://www.ksn.com/news/health/kansas-measles-outbreak-governor-to-provide-update-today-in-garden-city/)

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Why we can’t get along.

[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_88,c_scale/v200/d20b2aa6-f877-4e17-95ad-ea9160b0057b) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_88,c_scale/v200/d20b2aa6-f877-4e17-95ad-ea9160b0057b)

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> **[Countering DeSantis, $10M Hope Florida donation came from Medicaid, draft shows](https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2025/04/22/desantis-casey-medicaid-settlement-hope-charity-andrade/)**
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> Top DeSantis administration officials were involved in negotiations.

- Lawyers for the state of Florida settled with Centene,Florida’s largest Medicaid contractor, over-billed taxpayers $67,048,611 for medications.
- But instead of returning all $67 million to state and federal coffers, they sent $10 million of it to [the Hope Florida Foundation](https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2025/04/15/desantis-casey-hope-florida-foundation-hearing-andrade-medicaid/), a charity overseen by first lady Casey DeSantis.
- The money was then sent to two nonprofit organizations that aren’t required to report how they spend their funds. Those “dark money” groups later gave $8.5 million to a political committee overseen byDeSantis’ chief of staff in a series of transactions that some Republican [lawmakers believe were illegal](https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2025/04/14/desantis-uthmeier-casey-hope-florida-legislature-medicaid/).

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> **[‘60 Minutes’ executive producer resigns, citing a loss of independence in the...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/22/media/60-minutes-executive-producer-resigns-independence/index.html)**
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> Bill Owens, the executive producer for CBS News’ flagship “60 Minutes” program, announced he will resign from the top job on Tuesday, saying that he no longer had control over the show.

The independent voice of the American media landscape continues to unravel.

Depressing.

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Trump has identified – consciously, via his malevolent minions, or preternaturally – every potential guardrail that could lead to his demise or thwart his malign intent, and actively seeks to do them immeasurable and existential harm.

The ‘man’ who holds the position from which mere words can spasmodically drive global markets wields awesome power.

Trump is, in short, the apotheosis of the Mafia Don.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4227 "2025-04-23T12:13:06Z")

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A recap of the brilliant 4D chess that Trump is playing with the economy, as explained to the media by his lickspittles:

[Trump’s Trade War Lies Explained in 10 Minutes and 39 Seconds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhHKQEMSDrU)

> Will Saletan deep dives into Donald Trump’s attempts to re-write the narrative around his tariffs that crashed the economy, as his administration officials including Peter Navarro, Howard Lutnick, Scott Bessent and Karoline Leavitt repeat the lies on the reason for the tariffs and why they were put on pause.

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More Fun Stuff, courtesy of Maddowblog:

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> The good news is that the Trump administration’s controversial approach to food safety only matters to Americans who eat food. For everyone else, however, there’s cause for some concern. [Reuters reported](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-fda-suspends-milk-quality-tests-amid-workforce-cuts-2025-04-21/?taid=6806ca7866e4b3000122ea8e&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter):
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> > The Food and Drug Administration is suspending a quality control program for testing of fluid milk and other dairy products due to reduced capacity in its food safety and nutrition division, according to an internal email seen by Reuters. … The FDA this month also suspended existing and developing programs that ensured accurate testing for bird flu in milk and cheese and pathogens like the parasite Cyclospora in other food products.
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> Though the report hasn’t been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, there have been a variety of related reports of late.

> **[Tough to swallow: The Trump administration’s approach to food safety keeps...](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/tough-swallow-trump-administrations-approach-food-safety-keeps-getting-rcna202437)**
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> Those who backed the Republican ticket may not have realized they were voting to scale back food-safety safeguards, but that’s what they’re getting.

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New food safety slogan:

WHAT DOESN’T KILL YOU MAKES YOU EXTREMELY SICK AND EASIER TO KILL THE NEXT TIME

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A small thing, but you’d think that a government who’s so focused on “efficiency” wouldn’t bother with pointless witch-hunts to “protect Christians”. . But then again they’ve learned from the best.

> **[Veterans affairs agency orders staff to report each other for ‘anti-Christian...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/veterans-affairs-anti-christian-bias)**
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> New taskforce demands names in rooting out ‘policies, procedures … or understandings hostile to Christian views’

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From the article:

> Critics were quick to condemn Trump’s announcement at the time as a thinly veiled attempt to privilege evangelical Christianity over other religious minorities.

Wait. It was veiled _at all?_

Huh.

So … saying “Happy Holidays” to a cow orker this December will _definitely_ be charged as a Felony.

Also: Trump Bibles available in the VA Gift Shops – still (as ever) made in China. Don’t mind the tariffs. Think of it as tithing for Jesus (a/kl/a “Christ Tax”)!

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A year ago they cost less than $3 each to import (120,000 copies). They sell, apparently in these gift shops, for $59.99 so even if they need more any rise in price or tariffs (and they likely will be exempted under the “Bibles with Jesus, Jefferson and Lee Greenwood” executive order won’t matter much.

From Amazon I can get a “KJV, Pew Bible, Large Print, Hardcover, Black, Red Letter, Comfort Print KJV” for £14.25 or about $20 and for some reason free shipping (usually £30 is the minimum)

- Words of Christ in red help you quickly identify Jesus’ teachings and statements
- Miracles and parables of Jesus call out important events during Jesus’ earthly ministry
- Easy-to-read 12.5-point KJV Comfort Print

Can’t find what country it was printed in. Yet if I needed a bible I’d look no further.

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> From Amazon I can get a “KJV, Pew Bible, Large Print, Hardcover, Black, Red Letter, Comfort Print KJV” for £14.25 or about $20 and for some reason free shipping (usually £30 is the minimum)

I just looked, and the ‘Comfort Print’ version is $10.99. The Large Print edition is $12.61. My wife and I both have Prime, so shipping is free.

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> So … saying “Happy Holidays” to a cow orker this December will _definitely_ be charged as a Felony.

Charged as a felony? Nah, that’s a terrorist action. Straight to CECOT with them.

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> both have Prime, so shipping is free.

Good prices. Yet I looked to see if this was the usual “Prime Trial” Amazon sneaks in. Just straight up free shipping. Maybe here the price for shipping can be included if you do your own fulfilment (if there’s a pun there, not intended).

eta: What country were they printed in? Dunno if Bibles use British spelling norms or whatever country they’re for.

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Maybe here the price for shipping can be included if you do your own fulfilment

Yep.

> Add at least £10 of books dispatched by Amazon, or at least £35 of all other eligible items dispatched by Amazon to your Shopping Basket.

Dayum, £35 is the minimum now. Yet only £10 for books. Since I’m replying OT to myself I may as well mention when Amazon only sold books (circa 1995), they included a free mousepad with a Groucho Marx quote on it:

> Outside of a dog, a book is man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> if I needed a bible I’d look no further.

Are there no free bibles in the hotels anymore?  
Anyway: why would you need a bible? It’s like watching the movie _Titanic_. You already know how it ends.

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> why would you need a bible?

I imagine it could be a useful tool for teaching American “Christians” what is in that decoration that they are afraid to open.

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> From the article:
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> > Critics were quick to condemn Trump’s announcement at the time as a thinly veiled attempt to privilege evangelical Christianity over other religious minorities.

“Other religious minorities”? When did _Christians_ become a _religious minority_ in the United States?

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “Other religious minorities”? When did _Christians_ become a _religious minority_ in the United States?

Note (bolding mine):

> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> a thinly veiled attempt to privilege **evangelical** Christianity over other religious minorities.

While 63% of Americans identify as Christian (of some flavor), only 24% identify as being an “evangelical” or “born-again” Protestant. In other words: Christians are not a religious minority in the U.S., but **evangelical** Christians certainly are.

Source: [About Three-in-Ten U.S. Adults Are Now Religiously Unaffiliated | Pew Research Center](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/12/14/about-three-in-ten-u-s-adults-are-now-religiously-unaffiliated/)

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