# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 212
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4281 "2025-04-24T02:27:39Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > It’s like he thinks he’s speaking into ChatGpt and expects it to organize his thoughts into a coherent answer. That could cause an explosion like Captain Kirk talking a planet-controlling computer into a breakdown. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4282 "2025-04-24T02:57:51Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > So a totally non-biased journalist. I’ll grant them this - it is legitimately impressive how they can sit there with looks of rapt adoration while watching a response of such monumental ineptitude. They got half the Oscar winners beat for acting. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4283 "2025-04-24T03:03:55Z")
Judging oral communication as if it were written is slso a bit apples & oranges. To me, the two signs that his cracker is cheeseless and cracked are that he fails to finish most of his sentences, and where he does he rarely has specifics, only generics (“great”; “I love”) and filler words. He frequenly shifts focus mid-thought. All pretty common in oral narrative, but the lack of overall cogency isn’t, to me, the sign of a healthy mind. ---
**Author:** ![Kelby2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ebca7d/32.png) [@Kelby2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby2)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4284 "2025-04-24T03:19:08Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Somebody asked Trump about a proposed plan to move the Washington NFL team back into DC, and rename it back to the Redskins. > > His answer is complete and utter babbling bullshit. > > [https://x.com/Acyn/status/1915161669061533993](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1915161669061533993) > > I found the link to a YouTube video that contained the entire ramble. I copied and pasted the transcript from the video. > > video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvdSFXyxl7I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvdSFXyxl7I) > > > Oh I see well that’s that’s a little bit nobody’s asked me that one uh look I think when the the Indian population is a great part of this country great heritage and we’re talking about MassPiqua Long Island the Chiefs they call themselves the Chiefs or the Kansas City Chiefs i’m not changing their name a great team great people great owners great coach and quarterback i love the quarterback like his girlfriend too and his wife his wife is uh his wife is great she’s been a big uh she’s been a big fan his his quarterback’s mother is incredible i like that team they’re called the Chiefs and frankly uh I see nothing wrong with it they call them the Warriors and not that team but a lot of other teams and all of these Indian surnames and different names and I’m saying that I think that’s a positive thing and when you go back to Indians they they pulled this they they don’t know why these names are being taken off they’re trying to I think it’s degrading to the Indian population and it’s a great population and they like when they’re you know called by various names now uh Washington the Redskins perhaps that’s a little different a little bit different but I can tell you that I spoke to people of Indian heritage that loved that name and they love that team and I think it’s a much you know I think it’s a superior name to what they have right now and it had heritage behind it it had something special but a lot of the names having to do with you know different places not just Indians but I I think it’s they changed the name of the Cleveland Indians why would you take the name Indians off the Cleveland Indians and now it’s called the Cleveland something else right guardians oh it just doesn’t make sense to me so so you know we’re about bringing common sense back to this country and it may be popular or unpopular what I’m saying and just said to you see he’s a nice guy he got a lot out of me on this one but but I mean I think most people agree with me it’s it’s I think it really is demeaning to Indians but to change the name of the Cleveland Indians as an example to the Cleveland Guardians is not uh it’s not not the same Wt actual F? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4285 "2025-04-24T04:29:26Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Results > > Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level: **161.6** > > Flesch Reading Ease Score: **0** > > Reading Level: **College graduate** ( Very difficult to read [ed: read: extremely painful] ) > > Average Words per Sentence: 415 > > Average Syllables per Word: 1.3 > > Sentences: 1 > > Words: 415 I think I see a flaw in that analysis. Difficult to read? Nay, it’s impossible. A string of syllables babbled together does not make something college graduate level reading. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4286 "2025-04-24T05:30:29Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > How can anyone hear that and think he’s of sound mind? > … > > _It’s…astounding_ What is the companion line to that? Is it _Madness takes its toll_ ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4287 "2025-04-24T06:00:20Z")
No, the line after _It’s astounding_ is, _Time is fleeting._ It’s then that we get _Madness takes its toll._ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4288 "2025-04-24T07:15:40Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > That could cause an explosion like Captain Kirk talking a planet-controlling computer into a breakdown. All joking aside, I recall during his last term reading an article about how it’s very difficult for translators to render what he says into another language, since he’s so incoherent in his thoughts. And of course he’s gotten worse. I’d expect such an AI attempt to organize his speech into coherency to fail, just on the GIGO principle; it can’t clarify an underlying rational train of thought that _isn’t there._ ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4289 "2025-04-24T10:35:18Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Somebody asked Trump about a proposed plan to move the Washington NFL team back into DC, and rename it back to the Redskins. > > His answer is complete and utter babbling bullshit. > > [https://x.com/Acyn/status/1915161669061533993](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1915161669061533993) > > I found the link to a YouTube video that contained the entire ramble. I copied and pasted the transcript from the video. That’s too rambling and incoherent for me to even want to try forcing it into the form of “Poetry” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4290 "2025-04-24T11:08:14Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > I’ll grant them this - it is legitimately impressive how they can sit there with looks of rapt adoration while watching a response of such monumental ineptitude. They got half the Oscar winners beat for acting. I don’t think they’re acting. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4291 "2025-04-24T11:32:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I don’t think they’re acting. Yeah. The reason for the “Leopards Eating Faces” meme in the first place is that the Right is full of people who blindly worship their leaders and just…listen without hearing when those leaders talk. They’ll just listen to their master’s voice and read whatever meaning they _want_ into it, regardless of what the actual words say. That’s a major reason why Trump can get away with spouting gibberish - his followers aren’t listening to the actual words in the first place. Just the words in their head. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4292 "2025-04-24T11:41:10Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wait a moment! He’s using makeup? That sounds suspiciously non-masculine, akin to being a drag queen. I feel like we need a Monty Python type response to this! “I resent the implication that the Pentagon is a haven for Drag Queens! It’s well known that we now have the problem relatively under control, and that it’s the State Department that now houses most of the Drag Queens in the Federal Government! -Signed, Lt. Col. Felicia Featherboa, in an off-the-shoulder sundress and cute little sandals.” ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4293 "2025-04-24T11:43:00Z")
I put that into ChatGPT and asked it to evaluate the statement: ### 🔍 **Clarity & Coherence** - **Weak** : The statement is meandering and hard to follow due to its stream-of-consciousness style. It lacks punctuation and sentence structure, making it difficult to identify clear points or transitions. - **Repetitive and circular** : Thoughts are repeated in slightly different ways without adding depth or clarity (e.g., “I love the quarterback like his girlfriend too and his wife…”). - **Unclear subject shifts** : The speaker jumps from topic to topic without smooth transitions (Kansas City Chiefs → Native American names → Cleveland Guardians → Washington Redskins). ### 🧱 **Structure** - **Very poor** : There are no real paragraphs, topic sentences, or logical progression. - **Run-on sentences** : Nearly every sentence is extremely long, making it hard to identify the main ideas. - **Lacks editing** : There are many filler words (“uh,” “you know,” “frankly”) that clutter the message. ### 🎯 **Tone** - **Informal and conversational** , which might work in a casual setting, but not for serious or sensitive topics like the representation of Native American communities. - **Potentially insensitive** : The statement discusses Native American identity and team names without nuance or demonstrated understanding of how Indigenous people themselves feel about the issue. - **Overgeneralization** : Claims like “they like when they’re called by various names” are unsubstantiated and risky, especially when speaking about a diverse group. ### ✅ **Intent vs. Execution** - The speaker seems to be trying to say: _Team names with Native American references are not offensive, and in some cases, they are a source of pride._ - However, the delivery is **confusing** , **lacking in evidence** , and **poorly organized** , which weakens the credibility of the argument. * * * ### ✍ Summary: This statement is **not well-written**. It would benefit greatly from: - Clearer sentence structure - Logical flow of ideas - Removal of filler words and repetition - A more thoughtful and informed tone, especially when discussing marginalized communities ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4294 "2025-04-24T12:00:37Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > ### ✍ Summary: > > This statement is **not well-written**. It would benefit greatly from: > > - Clearer sentence structure > - Logical flow of ideas > - Removal of filler words and repetition > - A more thoughtful and informed tone, especially when discussing marginalized communities - The speaker just shutting the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4295 "2025-04-24T12:11:41Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > The Christians will have to work much harder to ignore Christ’s teachings if they’re in big red letters. Don’t worry Trump will soon start selling special Patriot [Decoder Glasses](https://www.rainbowsymphony.com/products/decoder-secret-reveal-glasses?variant=42669830504495) that make the uncomfortable passages disappear. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4296 "2025-04-24T13:04:11Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > All pretty common in oral narrative, but the lack of overall cogency isn’t, to me, the sign of a healthy mind. One of the intellectual sports - if you can call it that - at my high school, was “public speaking”. Similar to debate, but just the opening arguments, and no questions. There were two rounds. The first was scripted, on a chosen subject and memorised. We had the chance to read from the script in the first case. In the second, we were given the subject at the back of the auditorium, got about 30s to prepare while walking down and onto the stage, and were expected to talk for one minute on a completely unknown subject. Any subject, “density of a neutron star”, “Arnold Schwartznegger’s mother”… etc. Factual, but way outside your average 18yr old student’s ambit. Trump is doing the second, every time he speaks. At least we students had the ability to make self deprecating jokes so as to use up time with laughter. Trump instead uses words to fill time. But he doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of the words, phrases and sentances he utters. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4297 "2025-04-24T13:06:15Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > Wait a moment! He’s using makeup? That sounds suspiciously non-masculine, akin to being a drag queen. > > I feel like we need a Monty Python type response to this! > > “I resent the implication that the Pentagon is a haven for Drag Queens! It’s well known that we now have the problem relatively under control, and that it’s the State Department that now houses most of the Drag Queens in the Federal Government! -Signed, Lt. Col. Felicia Featherboa, in an off-the-shoulder sundress and cute little sandals.” Do you remember when, no matter who the woman is or her position, the newscast _always_ described what she was wearing as though she were on a catwalk. I wonder how Tan the Conman’s outfit would be described. > [@OldOlds](#): > > This statement is **not well-written**. It would benefit greatly from: > > - Clearer sentence structure > - Logical flow of ideas > - Removal of filler words and repetition > - A more thoughtful and informed tone, especially when discussing marginalized communities I’m thinking about [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-learn-how-um-to-um-talk/544881) I started fifteen years ago. > [@Gyrate](#): > > The speaker just shutting the fuck up. Would that he could. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4298 "2025-04-24T13:13:24Z")
Does Orange Anusface think words like _Chiefs_ and _Braves_ and _Redskins_ are Native-American surnames? Or am I an idiot for trying to follow his train of ‘thought’? (Don’t answer that.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4299 "2025-04-24T13:24:14Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Does Orange Anusface think words like _Chiefs_ and _Braves_ and _Redskins_ are Native-American surnames? He probably does. And he probably thinks my clan chief, Sir Malcolm MacGregor of MacGregor, is Native American. > [@BlankSlate](#): > > Or am I an idiot for trying to follow his train of ‘thought’? (Don’t answer that.) Killjoy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4300 "2025-04-24T13:26:01Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’m thinking about [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-learn-how-um-to-um-talk/544881) I started fifteen years ago. See, that was a minor annoyance I had with Obama during the '08 campaign. Whenever he was off-script, there would be a lot of um-filled pauses in his speaking. Apparently someone else noticed it as well, because by the end of '09, he ad been trained out of that.        Naturally, Felon-ONE does not have that problem because he just fills the gaps in his speaking with verbal effluent, which often results in goofy digressions because _SQUIRREL!_ he has to address the content of the digressions. “Um” indicates a pause to gather ones thoughts, of which there is no evidence that Felon-ONE has any. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=211) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=213)