# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 238
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4802 "2025-05-13T16:46:36Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > No, the point under discussion was the belief that every action must be opposed unanimously, and the one vote was an example where that did not occur. Okay, I get what you’re saying now. It just seemed like a bizarre and contradictory response to the initial question. 😆 But for the larger question of why they aren’t in lockstep to oppose everything I think you have a point. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4803 "2025-05-13T18:17:07Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I fear that democrat senators and reps are all in on the same game as the republicans. Why aren’t they doing something about our fascist government? Because they want it, too? I don’t know. If you scream every time someone steps on your foot, and people step on your foot every minute, pretty soon people will ignore your screams. There just isn’t much the Dems can do right now. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4804 "2025-05-13T18:19:49Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > This seems like a weird answer to the question about why every single Democrat in the Senate voted the same way that Republicans did. They did on _that one nomination_. Which was notably the most “normal” nomination that Trump made. The real point is that, with the really awful nominees like RFK, Jr, and Hegseth, almost all the Democrats voted against them, and it had zero actual effect. Virtually none of the Republicans stopped to question if maybe the universal rejection of the candidates by the Democrats might be a sign that there’s a problem there. At some point you have to accept that, under the current rules of the US government, the Democrats are essentially powerless to do anything other than make speeches that the entire GOP just ignores. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4805 "2025-05-13T18:36:09Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > If you scream every time someone steps on your foot, and people step on your foot every minute, pretty soon people will ignore your screams. That just means you aren’t screaming loud enough every time they step on your foot. If you _don’t_ scream when they step on your foot, they’;ll just keep on stepping on it every minute. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4806 "2025-05-13T18:38:44Z")
Or maybe when someone steps on your foot, you should stop screaming and kick them in the shins instead. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4807 "2025-05-13T19:26:12Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > you should stop screaming and kick them in the shins instead. I can think of another more effective target, about 18 inches higher. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4808 "2025-05-13T19:45:05Z")
“I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat”? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4809 "2025-05-13T20:00:45Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Given his failed casinos, his failed university, his failed steaks, his failed vodka, His failed governmental administrations… > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > “I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat”? With Hegseth and Trump, the following is no longer a joke, but spot on. Q: What’s the difference between the US Army and the Boy Scouts? A: The Boy Scouts have adult leadership. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4810 "2025-05-13T23:19:04Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > They did on _that one nomination_. Which was notably the most “normal” nomination that Trump made. No such thing. There may be gradations in the reasons why each nominee is unsuitable, but the question of suitability/unsuitability is binary. The America-hating fuckstick should not be in a position to make nominations in the first place. _That’s_ the first disqualifying factor in all of his nominations (the second would usually be that the nominee is a Republican, and there are myriad third through _nth_). ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4811 "2025-05-14T02:45:07Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > That just means you aren’t screaming loud enough every time they step on your foot. If you _don’t_ scream when they step on your foot, they’;ll just keep on stepping on it every minute To the contary, the more you scream, the more they stamp your foot. 99% of Trump policies have no other purpose than to own the libs. Your sweet screams set their loins all a-flutter, and they just can’t wait for his next outrageous pronouncement that with set lib hair on fire. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4812 "2025-05-14T03:00:06Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > To the contary, the more you scream, the more they stamp your foot. 99% of Trump policies have no other purpose than to own the libs. Your sweet screams set their loins all a-flutter, and they just can’t wait for his next outrageous pronouncement that with set lib hair on fire. The idea isn’t to complain, but to make it hurt for them to keep stamping on your foot. If screaming doesn’t do it, a good kick well-applied might. But I was trying to avoid escalation. If they stamp harder, though, you’ve got no choice. Make it too painful for them to take joy in owning the libs. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4813 "2025-05-14T03:02:40Z")
That will only happen with escalation beyond rhetorical flourish. Sternly worded letters elicit only MAGA joy. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4814 "2025-05-14T07:19:03Z")
The Democrats think the worse things are under Trump, the better their chances are in 2028, so why hinder him? He’ll screw over the country, and they’ll sweep the House and Senate. That’s the plan, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4815 "2025-05-14T07:55:03Z")
That is not any plan Democrats I know of are following-seems rather damn cynical to me. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4816 "2025-05-14T07:56:54Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The Democrats think the worse things are under Trump, the better their chances are in 2028, so why hinder him? Because there won’t _be_ a meaningful election by then if Trump is allowed to do what he wants unhindered, nor will there be much left for them to govern if they somehow got in instead of being thrown into camps first. Also, you are projecting the Republican “win at any cost” attitude onto the Democrats, when they aren’t like that _at all._ ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4817 "2025-05-14T08:04:16Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Also, you are projecting the Republican “win at any cost” attitude onto the Democrats, when they aren’t like that _at all._ The Democrats may not be like that, but their leadership is. That same leadership also believes that the more damage the Republicans do, the more money the Democrats will raise form donors. It’s the way things have always been, and you can’t teach old dogs new tricks. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4818 "2025-05-14T08:06:59Z")
Projection at its very worst. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4819 "2025-05-14T08:18:47Z")
Cynicism, sure, but _projection_? What exactly are you accusing me of? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4820 "2025-05-14T08:25:29Z")
This “win at any cost” mentality you claim is coming from the major Democratic players is not something I am seeing, so some evidence would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4821 "2025-05-14T08:26:26Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Cynicism, sure, but _projection_? What exactly are you accusing me of? Talking like the Democrats are acting exactly like the Republicans. You are describing a Republican strategy, not a Democratic one. The Republicans wreck everything they can, then the Democrats try to fix it but fall behind each time and take the blame. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=237) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=239)