# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 246
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4962 "2025-05-21T14:22:56Z")
I hope that wasn’t the end of the story. That you just smiled and nodded and went back to talking about them Dodgers. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4963 "2025-05-21T14:26:35Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I hope that wasn’t the end of the story. **Me:** You know there’s video, right? And that I actually watched the video? Stop believing your false Messiah. Get help. **Her:** show me the video without sharing a virus. Thousands of hours have yet to be released, so not sure how you know anything for absolute certain. Share the video please **Me:** The cop shoots when the traitor starts climbing through the window. (And I know EXACTLY what you are going to say.) > **[Video shows new angle of Ashli Babbitt shooting inside Capitol](https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572)** > > Video licensed from a self-described civil rights activist shows the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4964 "2025-05-21T14:32:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > show me the video without sharing a virus. If you hold your phone in your hand and show her the video, will she still get a virus? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4965 "2025-05-21T14:34:25Z")
Well, I’m at the farthest point northwest (except for Point Roberts) in the contiguous United States, and she’s in Savannah, Georgia; so that’s unlikely to happen. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4966 "2025-05-21T14:42:37Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Well, I’m at the farthest point northwest (except for Point Roberts) in the contiguous United States Neah Bay is farther northwest than Pt Roberts by a fair margin. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4967 "2025-05-21T14:43:07Z")
It’s not as far north. Her latest comment: 'dude is going to jail for murder 💩 💩 💩 ’ **Me:** So you didn’t watch the video so that you could see with your own eyes that traitor Babbitt was part of the violent mob, that she was leading the attack by attempting to get through the broken window, and that she was justifiably shot as someone who was there to kill. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4968 "2025-05-21T14:47:13Z")
But it is way more west. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4969 "2025-05-21T14:51:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > When I explained to her that Babbitt was assaulting officers, was warned several times to stop, and then continued her attack, she said: > > > quit believing everything the satanic pedophiles tell you Did you mention we have video of the incident? From at least two different angles? We don’t have to “believe everything the satanic pedophiles tell us” when we can just see it for ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4970 "2025-05-21T14:53:11Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Did you mention we have video of the incident? Yes. I posted the link that I shared with her, above. See also, the edit in my last post. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4971 "2025-05-21T15:05:28Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > > show me the video without sharing a virus. > > If you hold your phone in your hand and show her the video, will she still get a virus? Reality is a virus and these people have inoculated themselves against it. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4972 "2025-05-21T15:08:56Z")
Golden Dome - Shoved into his head by drunk and druggie handlers. It’s just bizarre… Have a drink handy while reading. Keep the dogs out of range. Lowlights: 1. $175 billion. 2. Operational in less than 3 years. 3. A success rate close to 100% And to pay for it - “When a reporter asked Trump about the cost, Trump claimed “we can afford to do it…we took in $5.1 trillion in the last four days in the Middle East,” > **[Trump's Golden Dome Missile Shield: What We Just Learned And Its Implications](https://www.twz.com/space/trumps-golden-dome-missile-shield-what-we-just-learned-and-its-implications)** > > Golden Dome is a very ambitious and costly endeavor that could have major ramifications beyond defending America's skies. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4973 "2025-05-21T15:17:06Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > $175 billion. The US spent $100B on SDI under Reagan and got nothing, with final projected costs upwards of $150B-ish in 1988 dollars. No way Golden Toilet Dome can cost $175B. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4974 "2025-05-21T15:20:21Z")
To get it down to only $175B, it won’t be real gold. Gold colored Krylon rattle-can. That’s what they used for all the gold looking festoonery that has shown up in the WH. Looks real enough. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4975 "2025-05-21T15:20:36Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Golden Dome Most. Predictable. Name. Ever. “Israel has an Iron Dome? Well, my Dome will be Bigger, Better and Golder!” ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4976 "2025-05-21T15:29:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > **Me:** So you didn’t watch the video so that you could see with your own eyes “Well, who ya gonna believe - me, or your own eyes?” ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4977 "2025-05-21T15:43:29Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > The US spent $100B on SDI under Reagan and got nothing, with final projected costs upwards of $150B-ish in 1988 dollars. We didn’t exactly get nothing. As long as we knew where the missile was coming from, where it was going, exactly when it was launched, and it had a homing beacon, we could shoot it down nearly half the time. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4978 "2025-05-21T15:53:07Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Most. Predictable. Name. Ever. > > “Israel has an Iron Dome? Well, my Dome will be Bigger, Better and Golder!” Iron is hard. Gold is soft and malleable. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4979 "2025-05-21T16:05:35Z")
Given his known proclivities, shouldn’t that be “Gilt Dome”? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4980 "2025-05-21T16:21:17Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Would such “passing the buck” have been accepted then? Why is it accepted (by so many) now? Going to take a stab at this… Modern American Christianity, especially the Protestant variants, have moved away from ethics and is completely about faith. You no longer have to even _consider_ acting like a Christian if all you do is believe, and God does not demand ethics from us because of his Unending Love. The last was a genuine sermon I heard at [Max Lucado](https://maxlucado.com/)’s church. Oh, he has the typical whitey-righty positions about same-sex marriage, etc, but his general message is that _actions do not matter, only faith does. God does not judge by your actions but by the depths of your faith. Love and belief in Jesus is all._ Compare this Megachurch philosophy with Jonathan Edwards’ _Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God_, which states the exact opposite of what is being taught today: > [@](#): > > 1. There is no want of _power_ in God to cast wicked men into hell at any moment. Men’s hands cannot be strong when God rises up. The strongest have no power to resist him, nor can any deliver out of his hands.—He is not only able to cast wicked men into hell, but he can most easily do it. Sometimes an earthly prince meets with a great deal of difficulty to subdue a rebel, who has found means to fortify himself, and has made himself strong by the numbers of his followers. But it is not so with God. There is no fortress that is any defense from the power of God. Though hand join in hand, and vast multitudes of God’s enemies combine and associate themselves, they are easily broken in pieces. They are as great heaps of light chaff before the whirlwind; or large quantities of dry stubble before devouring flames. We find it easy to tread on and crush a worm that we see crawling on the earth; so it is easy for us to cut or singe a slender thread that any thing hangs by: thus easy is it for God, when he pleases, to cast his enemies down to hell. What are we, that we should think to stand before him, at whose rebuke the earth trembles, and before whom the rocks are thrown down? > > 2. They _deserve_ to be cast into hell; so that divine justice never stands in the way, it makes no objection against God’s using his power at any moment to destroy them. Yea, on the contrary, justice calls aloud for an infinite punishment of their sins. Divine justice says of the tree that brings forth such grapes of Sodom, “Cut it down, why cumbereth it the ground?” [Luke 13:7](https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/luk/13/7/s_986007). The sword of divine justice is every moment brandished over their heads, and it is nothing but the hand of arbitrary mercy, and God’s mere will, that holds it back. > > 3. They are already under a sentence of _condemnation_ to hell. They do not only justly deserve to be cast down thither, but the sentence of the law of God, that eternal and immutable rule of righteousness that God has fixed between him and mankind, is gone out against them, and stands against them; so that they are bound over already to hell. “He that believeth not is condemned already. ”([John 3:18](https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/3/18/s_1000018)) So that every unconverted man properly belongs to hell; that is his place; from thence he is, [John 8:23](https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/8/23/s_1005023). “Ye are from beneath,” and thither he is bound; it is the place that justice, and God’s word, and the sentence of his unchangeable law, assign to him. (Cite: [Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God by Jonathan Edwards](https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/edwards_jonathan/Sermons/Sinners.cfm) ) This is a message completely foreign to today’s mainstream Protestant who is taught that God doesn’t damn us for our faults, he loves us despite of them. And if God loves us despite of our actions, why moderate those actions to be Godly? God doesn’t care! And so we have descended from a civilization of personal responsibility (for one’s life, one’s soul, etc), to a civilization of moral relativism. And it’s the Christan church’s fault, especially those mega churches with their rock concerts and bland, easily-ignorable faith-based messaging. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/4981 "2025-05-21T17:02:25Z")
The Golden Dome -Oh, and it gets even dumber. Trump said he talked to one of our enemies (he can’t tell you which one) and he told Trump that they have nothing like it, nothing that can even come close to it, that they can’t even start to even contemplate building the technology that Trump and Silicon Valley have. That the US is so smart to build this. He said this crap on camera. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=245) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=247)