# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 252
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5082 "2025-05-23T20:29:04Z")
Well, when I start collecting SS, I will not be working anymore. I’ll have the investments of course. But considering Trumps bouncing ball with the economy (and every other thing) I’m an not able to estimate even conservative investments. I suspect everything may just tank (with Trump and his buddies shorting the markets of course) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5083 "2025-05-23T21:02:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Welcome to the second fucking Gilded Age: And there I was with no cruise missile handy. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5084 "2025-05-23T21:06:15Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I think it requires a pretty poor reading to presume that is what he is saying. I was pointing out that it wasn’t very helpful. I can’t find current info, but 4 years ago to be in the top 0.1% you would be making over $3.3M. I assume with inflation that’s a lot more today. But let’s just say $3.3M for the sake of argument. The statement that quoted says that if you make less than $17,000 a year, you lose more than $1,000 a year. If you make between $17,000-$51,000 a year, you will lose around $700 a year. And if you make over $3.3M a year, you’ll get nearly $390,000 a year. But if you make between $51,000-$3.3M a year (being conservative, the gap is probably larger than that), who knows? At what point do you start to benefit? By only mentioning how the top 0.01% will fare, you are implying that everyone below that will be worse off and that’s obviously not true. That’s what I was pointing out. It seems like a really arbitrary set of statistics to give out to make a point. If you just wanted to make the general point that it is the opposite of a progressive tax system (which seems inherently unfair, I won’t argue against that), the detail that was given out seems unnecessary. It was just a weird quote. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5085 "2025-05-23T21:09:18Z")
Interestingly this may be a bit more than even some right wingers can stomach. Checking out the coverage on [Fox news](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-holds-swanky-dinner-meme-coin-investors-says-biden-administration-persecuted-crypto-innovators#&_intcmp=fnhpsb_economy_2) (hidden down near the bottom of the page where no one will see it, along with a story about Trump’s bad poll numbers). I looked at the comments section and found that while there are some defenders, the comments are breaking something like 90/10 in favor of it being obvious corruption. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5086 "2025-05-23T21:34:28Z")
The big question is, will they make the mental leap from “this is corruption” to “Trump is corrupt!”? Some of those who are aware of it may well do so, but it’s not going to move any needles unless it makes a difference in how they vote for their legislative representatives - who are currently engaging in a giveaway of gigantic proportions. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5087 "2025-05-23T21:44:12Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > there are some defenders Did they make any sense? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5088 "2025-05-23T21:44:14Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Welcome to the second fucking Gilded Age: I think I saw a clip of Karoline Leavitt explaining there’s no conflict-of-interest here because Trump is doing this as a “private citizen” and it’s not hosted/sponsored at/by the White House. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5089 "2025-05-23T21:45:40Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you just wanted to make the general point that it is the opposite of a progressive tax system (which seems inherently unfair, I won’t argue against that), the detail that was given out seems unnecessary. Nah, it only _seems_ unnecessary, because the author of the piece decided, for reasons of his own, to omit so much of the scale between $51K and $3.3M. The three examples given cite such outrageous injustices being committed that they’ll predictably provoke indignation. And opportunities for indignation are sexy (or at least _spicy_). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5090 "2025-05-23T21:48:40Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The three examples given cite such outrageous injustices being committed that they’ll predictably provoke indignation. And opportunities for indignation are sexy (or at least _spicy_). You make a very good point. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5091 "2025-05-23T21:58:15Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Interestingly this may be a bit more than even some right wingers can stomach. “Wolf!” cried the boy. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5092 "2025-05-23T21:58:32Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > Welcome to the second fucking Gilded Age: > > I think I saw a clip of Karoline Leavitt explaining there’s no conflict-of-interest here because Trump is doing this as a “private citizen” and it’s not hosted/sponsored at/by the White House. Dear God, was there _no one_ in the press corps with the _cojones_ to call Ms Leavitt out to her face and point out that office of the President is a 24/7? That the America-hating fuckstick will NEVER be a “private citizen” again until 01/20/2029 : 12:01 PM, EST.\* \*Barring impeachment, conviction, removal, and a pony (hey, as long I’m wishing, I might as well get a taste, right?), or an untimely demise. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5093 "2025-05-23T22:01:11Z")
At this point in the Second Felonial Era, his demise at any time will be timely. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5094 "2025-05-23T22:01:37Z")
On Bluesky it was pointed out that this meant that it was not an “official act” and thus he could (via the Supreme Court ruling from last year) be prosecuted for acts associated with the dinner. (Of course, any Trump lawyer could simply claim that Leavitt misspoke and it was _certainly_ an official act…) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5095 "2025-05-23T22:03:56Z")
He’s Schrödinger’s president! ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5096 "2025-05-23T22:06:25Z")
Does that mean we get to stick him in a box with some nuclear material and a bottle of cyanide? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5097 "2025-05-23T22:15:50Z")
More tariffs announced, this time on the EU and Apple. I wonder how many of his buddies were given prior notice and sold off their market shares in anticipation of a dip. His latest ambush of a visiting dignitary was disgusting, but not unexpected. What an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5098 "2025-05-23T22:22:13Z")
You Tease! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5099 "2025-05-23T22:29:44Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > a bottle of cyanide? Put a Diet Coke label on it and there is no uncertainty principle anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5100 "2025-05-23T22:35:53Z")
We’re discussing Trump. He’s never had any principles. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5101 "2025-05-23T22:50:31Z")
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