# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/501 "2024-12-04T23:35:49Z")

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Well if Trump kills all the hostages too, I guess ‘problem solved’. /s

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/502 "2024-12-05T00:18:36Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Long story short: An American farmer was kidnaped from Niger for ransom, and was taken to Nigeria.

When I read this at the start, I figured Patel’s tagline would end up as “Niger, Nigeria - what’s the difference really?”

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > Esper notes that his team “suspected Patel made the approval story up.”

(Pull quote is from the article that **Johnny\_L.A** quoted)

If he wasn’t the favorite of the President, a move like that would have gotten him cashiered (Kash-iered?) in short order. Heck, it should have been done even if he had been a favorite of the President - at least, a president who considers competence to be more important than loyalty.

On the plus side, this story appearing in the _Washington Examiner_ means that there are some Senate Republicans who probably don’t want to vote either for or against the guy, and are trying to sabotage his nomination before it comes to that. For them, having to vote at all is a no-win situation - anger Trump, or put his toady in charge of the FBI that could investigate _them_? Maybe senators should train on the _Kobayashi Maru_ test sometime, or perhaps be reminded of the fact that they could have stopped this from happening less than four years ago…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/503 "2024-12-05T00:57:17Z")

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With the news, all bad of course, coming out about Trump’s picks for his new administration, and the picks either quitting now or Trump dropping them, I think we’re into negative Scaramuccis. Might as well have a special term for the time from Trump’s wonderful selection’s resignations or drop to January 20, 2025. That would be 61 days. And, of course, it has to be negative because everything involved with Trump is negative.

Aside: are there any units of measurement which have different terms for positive and negative measure?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/504 "2024-12-05T01:25:53Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> > Trump – or his AI image generator – doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp on geography:
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> Actually, that would make a great image for the Caption Contest thread, running in Thread Games. I’d love to hear how the posters there would caption it. I can think of a few that I’d post.

You’re welcome to take the link and post the image in that thread.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/505 "2024-12-05T02:08:45Z")

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I would probably stick with the Scaramucci but have the start time be the time at which the nominee was named. Maybe name it a fetalScaramucci, t_o distinguish between time after conception and time after ~~birth~~ taking office_. So Gaetz who was nominated and then dropped out 8 days later would be around 0.72 fetalScaramuccis.

ETA: (Smapti posted before I editied to add italicized text )

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/506 "2024-12-05T02:09:50Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Maybe name it an fetalScaramucci.

Don’t you know life begins at Scaramucception?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/507 "2024-12-05T03:22:52Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Aside: are there any units of measurement which have different terms for positive and negative measure?

Electrical charge? It’s literally divided into positive and negative.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/508 "2024-12-05T03:25:29Z")

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🤦‍♂️

How did I forge that?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/509 "2024-12-05T09:57:12Z")

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Probably over fire, with an anvil and a bigass hammer.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/510 "2024-12-05T13:19:40Z")

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I’d like to remind you not to lose your temper over this.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/511 "2024-12-05T13:27:11Z")

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That said, you can learn a lot from a guy’s bellows.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/512 "2024-12-05T19:25:41Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> How did I forge that?

You were just being ingot.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/513 "2024-12-05T20:19:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> are there any units of measurement which have different terms for positive and negative measure?

Erm… the pH scale? Acid and alkali  
Er… golf scores?! Birdies and bogies?

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**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/514 "2024-12-06T02:55:11Z")

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The pH scale doesn’t include negative values, it ranges from zero to fourteen. Anions and cations (or anodes and cathodes) might fit the bill better but those aren’t units of measure.

I’m in Canada where we prefer Friedman Units to Scaramucii in any case.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/515 "2024-12-06T04:55:12Z")

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How many Kim Campbell’s is that?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/516 "2024-12-06T05:14:10Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > How did I forge that?
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> You were just being ingot.

I guess I’ll just have to steel myself for the inevitable after making that error.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/517 "2024-12-06T05:44:06Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I guess I’ll just have to steel myself for the inevitable after making that error.

As they say, whoever smelt it, dealt it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/518 "2024-12-06T10:52:04Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> As they say, whoever smelt it, dealt it.

I thought you were more refined than that. 😉

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/519 "2024-12-06T12:26:50Z")

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I’ve been hammering my mind for hours in the crucible of trying to make a forging pun to add to this thread but without success, I guess I’m not made of the right alloy.

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> I’ve been hammering my mind for hours in the crucible of trying to make a forging pun to add to this thread but without success

Coke might be what you need.

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