# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 287
**Author:** ![FrenchDunadan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frenchdunadan/32/5449_2.png) [@FrenchDunadan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrenchDunadan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5782 "2025-06-15T05:20:58Z")
Seen the parade tonight and here’s some thoughts and questions: 1. seems there was not many persons in the crowd, mostly in parks around the street. 2. the soldiers were marching…well in a manner that seemed weird: no weapons, no close order (ranks and files were not straight), no order of height, weird and not in rhythm pace. Is it really that enlisted soldiers don’t do marching? 3. the soldiers in vehicles were waving at the crowd. 🤨 is it normal? here they have more gravitas. 4. The 47th said something in the line of " our soldiers are always victorious and we will win this time" Is it correct (I fear an error of translation) and was he aware that some of the wars presented were not exactly wins? and others were not exactly only American wins? what is this time he’s talking about? LA?Iran? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5783 "2025-06-15T05:38:49Z")
[The felon found a catch-all law to justify his strong-arm tactics.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-prosecutors-now-charging-immigrants-110000955.html) > [@](#): > > Federal officials have begun carrying out President Donald Trump’s orders to enforce a World War II-era criminal law that requires virtually all non-citizens in the country to register with and submit fingerprints to the government. > > Since April, law enforcement in [Louisiana](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.laed.273104/gov.uscourts.laed.273104.1.0.pdf), [Arizona](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.279028/gov.uscourts.dcd.279028.42.15.pdf), [Montana](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mtd.80657/gov.uscourts.mtd.80657.1.1.pdf), [Alabama](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.alnd.194761/gov.uscourts.alnd.194761.7.0.pdf), [Texas](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69945437/united-states-v-moreno-mendez/) and [Washington, D.C.,](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.280493/gov.uscourts.dcd.280493.1.1.pdf) have charged people with willful “failure to register” under the Alien Registration Act, an offense most career federal public defenders have never encountered before. Many of those charged were already in jail and in ongoing deportation proceedings when prosecutors presented judges with the new charges against them. > > The registration provision in the law, which was passed in 1940 [amid widespread public fear](https://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1336&context=lawfrp) about immigrants’ loyalty to the U.S., had been dormant for 75 years, but it is still on the books. Failure to register is considered a “petty offense” — a misdemeanor with maximum penalties of six months imprisonment or a $1,000 fine. > > In reviving the law, the Trump administration may put undocumented immigrants in a catch-22. If they register, they must hand over detailed, incriminating information to the federal government — including how and when they entered the country. But knowingly refusing to register is also a crime, punishable by arrest or prosecution, on top of the ever-present threat of deportation. [The felon wants to ban more foreigners.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-considering-adding-another-36-202036958.html) > [@](#): > > The Trump administration is considering implementing [travel restrictions](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/travel-restrictions) to [36 more countries](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-travel-ban-countries-list-b2766375.html), including some major U.S. partners such as Egypt and Djibouti, according to an internal memo seen [by _The Washington Post_.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/14/trump-travel-ban-expansion/) > > The memo, signed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and sent to U.S. diplomats on Saturday, says the governments of the listed nations have 60 days to meet new requirements established by the [State Department](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/state-department). > > The [State Department](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/state-department) alleged that some of [the countries mentioned](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-revives-travel-ban-restricts-000742870.html) have not met various benchmarks, such as “no competent or cooperative central government authority” to provide reliable identity documents or a large number of citizens who have violated the terms of their visas. I enjoyed that bit about reliable identity documents. By the way, America, how’s that REAL ID thing working so far? But, hey, not to worry! Want to get back on the felon’s dance card? That’s super simple. All a country has to do is open a concentration camp for the people he’s kicking out of America. (Same link) > [@](#): > > However, the memo included a caveat: if a country is willing to accept third-country nationals who are being removed from the United States, it would ease other concerns. The article includes a list of those 36 countries he wants to add to the band of the banned. I wonder what they all have in common. > [@](#): > > The list of countries which could face visa restrictions, travel bans,or other restrictions includes 25 countries in [Africa](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/africa): Angola, Benin, Burkina Faso, Cabo Verde, Cameroon, Côte d’Ivoire, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Egypt, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Liberia, Malawi, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Sao Tome and Principe, Senegal, South Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda, Zambia, and Zimbabwe. > > Several [Caribbean](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/caribbean) nations are on the list as well: Antigua and Barbuda, Dominica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, and Saint Lucia. > > There are also four countries in [Asia](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/asia) listed: Bhutan, Cambodia, Kyrgyzstan, and Syria; and three countries in Oceania: Tonga, Tuvalu, and Vanuatu [The top health official in the United States is a raw milk believer.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-consumed-potentially-bacteria-200952940.html) > [@](#): > > Well, folks, the man in charge of our health just keeps doing grosser and grosser things, like making [disgusting comments](https://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelabramwell/rfk-jr-comment-about-autistic-kids-never-paying-taxes) about autism, [dismantling](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/rfk-jr-ousts-entire-17-person-cdc-vaccine-advisory-committee) our country’s health infrastructure, and, uhhh, maybe [swimming in raw sewage (???)](https://www.buzzfeed.com/kelley_greene/rfk-jr-and-family-swimming-in-rock-creek). Yep, gross! > > So it might not come as a surprise that [vaccine skeptic](https://apnews.com/article/rfk-jr-vaccine-trump-science-autism-9b99621b01f11b7f0bdc81e5a0b82d2b), [conspiracy theorist](https://www.nytimes.com/article/rfk-conspiracy-theories-fact-check.html), and US Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a fan of raw milk, or cow’s milk that hasn’t been pasteurized. No processing, just straight from the udder. Proponents of raw milk like to say that pasteurization, a heating process that eliminates harmful bacteria that could make you sick if consumed, also gets rid of the [“good stuff” in the milk, but there’s zero proof](https://www.fda.gov/food/buy-store-serve-safe-food/raw-milk-misconceptions-and-danger-raw-milk-consumption) of that. Now that I think about it, there is one benefit for him of consuming raw milk. He can sit on the commode for days on end xitting back and forth with his buddy Donnie who is also xitting on the commode. [A real leader, Governor Newsom, has a short and accurate appraisal of the felon.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/stone-cold-liar-gavin-newsom-052318612.html) > [@](#): > > California Gov. [Gavin Newsom](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/gavin-newsom) (D) dialed up his criticism of [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) on Thursday as he slammed the president’s claims that they spoke over the phone about deploying the [National Guard](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/national-guard) to respond to protests in Los Angeles. > > “He has quite literally made up components of that conversation. He’s been a stone cold liar about what he said we talked about. He never discussed the National Guard. Period, full stop,” [Newsom said](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/newsom-reacts-to-a-federal-court-ruling-against-trump-s-use-of-the-national-guard-in-los-angeles-241498693811). [Finally! At least one Fox News host recognizes what’s going on.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-host-gleefully-mocks-062438868.html) > [@](#): > > Jessica Tarlov pushed back on her Fox News colleagues who claimed that Alex Padilla’s [confrontation Thursday](https://www.yahoo.com/news/noem-security-cuffs-senator-heckled-191933715.html) with Kristi Noem was an obvious photo op orchestrated by the California senator by reminding her co-hosts that the Homeland Security Secretary is “in a costume all the time.” > > On _The Five_, Tarlov alluded to Noem’s frequent dress-up excursions in the field—as a firefighter, a pilot, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, a Coast Guard boat operator, and a [headscarf-wearing](https://www.yahoo.com/news/meet-ice-barbie-arabia-kristi-155712296.html) camel rider—after Greg Gutfeld described Padilla’s video evidence of being wrestled to the ground and cuffed as the “ultimate photo op.” > > “Coming from the administration and a particular secretary who loves the performance art—she’s in a costume all the time, she’s doing a reality TV show of arresting migrants and showing up at CECOT,” Tarlov said as Gutfeld interrupted. > > “You can’t make us believe this is real anymore, Jessica,” he told her. “The ‘boy who cried wolf’ story—I hate to bring it up, but we don’t buy this B.S.” [Arrest them and let the Devil sort it out.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/dhs-agent-makes-damning-confession-165833034.html) > [@](#): > > The Department of Homeland Security admitted to scrounging around for dirt on Kilmar Abrego Garcia only after he was wrongfully deported to a notorious prison in El Salvador. > > Freshly returned from a Salvadoran prison, Abrego Garcia attended an arraignment hearing in Nashville Friday, where he pleaded not guilty to [two charges](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.104621/gov.uscourts.tnmd.104621.3.0.pdf) related to illegally transporting undocumented immigrants for cash. The charges stemmed from an [investigation](https://newrepublic.com/post/194934/donald-trump-team-reason-not-return-kilmar-abrego-garcia) into a 2022 traffic stop in Tennessee, where Abrego Garcia was discovered in a car with several Hispanic men who did not possess identification. > > During the hearing Friday, one DHS agent revealed that he was only asked to look into Abrego Garcia’s case on April 28 of this year, [according](https://bsky.app/profile/anitawadhwani.bsky.social/post/3lriqxeaczs2q) to Tennessee Lookout’s Anita Wadhwani. > > That’s more than a month after Abrego Garcia was sent to a notorious Salvadoran prison, and a week after Senator Chris Van Hollen [traveled](https://www.yahoo.com/news/dem-senator-reveals-far-el-211701573.html) to El Salvador to recover his kidnapped constituent, boosting the story’s profile to the national level. That was also a full week after White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt [claimed](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1912201695037190191), seemingly out of nowhere and without providing any evidence, that Abrego Garcia had “engaged in human trafficking.” [Car driven on purpose into crowd at No Kings protest.](https://www.aol.com/no-kings-protests-set-begin-120151103.html) I put this here because this is instigated by the rhetoric employed by and the beavior of felon47 and his co-conspirators.\* > [@](#): > > Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators filled the streets of U.S. cities and towns in coordinated “No Kings” events, billed as a “national day of peaceful protest,” in the largest outpouring of opposition to [Trump](https://www.reuters.com/data/trumps-approval-rating-2025-01-21/)’s policies since he returned to power in January. > > The mostly calm marches, organized under the theme that no individual is above the law, coincided with the day President [Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) hosted a [military parade on the streets of the nation’s capital.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-250th-anniversary-parade-tanks-121044767.html) > > At least one demonstration, about 70 miles from Washington, D.C., in Northern Virginia, was met with violence when a man intentionally drove an SUV through a crowd of departing protesters, striking at least one person, [police said.](https://www.facebook.com/CulpeperPD/posts/1128685212627149?ref=embed_page) [Another article including that attack along with one in San Francisco.](https://www.aol.com/no-kings-protesters-virginia-san-225500811.html) > [@](#): > > Protesters at “No Kings” events in Culpeper, Virginia, and San Francisco, California, have been struck by motorists, according to local news reports. > > The protests are taking place at about 2,000 sites nationwide, from big cities to small towns. A [coalition](https://www.nokings.org/partners) of more than 100 groups planned the protests, which are committed to a principle of nonviolence. > > Police in the northern Virginia city of Culpeper [identified](https://www.fox5dc.com/news/man-drives-crowd-protesters-no-kings-rally-virginia) 21-year-old Joseph R Checklick Jr as the motorist there. No injuries have been reported; [police said](https://wjla.com/news/local/man-arrested-for-driving-his-suv-through-no-kings-protest-in-culpeper-none-injured-protestors-crash-vehicle-hit-protestors-dmv-virginia-president-trump-birthday-protesting-june-14-crowd) that they have filed reckless driving charges against Checklick, and that more charges may be filed. Organizers estimated that more than 600 protesters showed up in the town of 21,000. > > In San Francisco, at least four “No Kings” protesters in San Francisco were struck by a motorist who then fled the scene, [according to NBC News](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-military-parade-protests-live-updates-rcna212332#rcrd82160). Law enforcement detained the individual, and stated that the protesters suffered non-life-threatening injuries. \*I am done with calling them president or whatever title they purport to hold nor shall I call them an administration from this point forward. The fact is the entire mess of them are felon47 and his co-conspirators. They are criminals, one and all. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5784 "2025-06-15T06:34:36Z")
> [@FrenchDunadan](#): > > Is it really that enlisted soldiers don’t do marching? Why would they? It serves no purpose. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5785 "2025-06-15T06:43:38Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > > [@FrenchDunadan](#): > > > > Is it really that enlisted soldiers don’t do marching? > > Why would they? It serves no purpose Well, there is a purpose, at least in certain places. If you want to get a large body of people from point A to point B that are within walking distance, putting them in formation and marching them will do it in an orderly manner. Which is the main reason they do it in basic training and the service academies/officer training school. There may be other places they do it as well, perhaps some tech schools. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5786 "2025-06-15T06:55:10Z")
Boots, boots, boots boots Moving up and down again ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5787 "2025-06-15T06:55:42Z")
Not in my experience - but even if that’s how you do things, there’s no need to coordinate leg and arm movements or to carry your rifle on your shoulder. That stuff’s just for show. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5788 "2025-06-15T07:16:57Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > That stuff’s just for show. Well, I think there is legitimately some psychological value in training soldiers to distance themselves from their individuality and subsume themselves into a large group operating in unison, aside from the practical utility in marching a battalion across the Great Saint Bernard Pass to Marengo, or whatever. It’s just that modern militaries have more effective training methods for achieving this effect, so marching drills have been deprioritized if not entirely abandoned. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5789 "2025-06-15T07:29:27Z")
I think it’s more that modern militaries focus less on working in unison and more on working as a team, if you know what I mean. Very little combat these days involves working in unison. Take tank warfare: every person in a tank has a different job, as does every tank in a platoon at any given moment, which means that you never have a bunch of people doing the same thing at the same time. You have to train them to work together, not to be the same. Oddly enough, marching bands are a better analogy for modern militaries than soldiers marching in ranks. ---
**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5790 "2025-06-15T11:36:39Z")
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5791 "2025-06-15T11:39:57Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Not in my experience - but even if that’s how you do things, there’s no need to coordinate leg and arm movements or to carry your rifle on your shoulder. That stuff’s just for show. It’s also potentially dangerous; famously, you can cause bridge collapses that way. Also, I expect that soldiers concentrating on keeping in step are going to have significantly less situational awareness. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5792 "2025-06-15T11:51:38Z")
Still plenty of formation marching. Primarily at change of command ceremonies. Lots of practice leading up to the event then back to real jobs. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5793 "2025-06-15T11:55:13Z")
> [@FrenchDunadan](#): > > The 47th said something in the line of " our soldiers are always victorious I don’t about the rest of what he said, and I don’t know if this is a translation error (I’m not about to watch his speech to find out). But this may be a right-wing talking point. I had a friend who has since gone full-on MAGA. She once said, “The United States Army has never lost a battle.” Not even a war, mind you. Never lost even a single battle! I think that she really believes that. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5794 "2025-06-15T12:14:11Z")
Especially not in Vietnam or Afghanistan. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5795 "2025-06-15T12:50:30Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > To me, it looks likely that there were at least 8~10k – not “nobody showed up”, but probably not what he was hoping for. To no one’s surprise: [Trump admin mocked for claiming parade attendance was ‘250,000 patriots’ despite empty fields](https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/trump-mocked-claims-parade-attendance-1209255) _Despite a turnout of only a few thousand, the White House is claiming that 250,000 “patriots” attended the military parade in Washington D.C. on Saturday_ > White House Communications Director Steven Cheung boasted about the turnout at Saturday’s [military parade in Washington D.C](https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/donald-trump-sleep-military-parade-1209144)claiming a quarter of a million “patriots” were present, [despite visual evidence of sparse crowds.](https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/trump-humiliated-tiny-crowd-braves-1209108) > > “Amazing. Despite the threat of rain, over 250,000 patriots showed up to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the @USArmy,” Cheung exclaimed on X. > > The event, coinciding with [President Donald Trump’s birthday a](https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/melania-trump-asleep-military-parade-1209087)nd marking the US military’s 250th anniversary, saw unexpectedly low attendance, prompting online ridicule and highlighting its hefty $45 million cost. > … > Critiques also targeted the event’s production value and expense. “The canned crowd sounds… the sponsors…the crappy mix engineer. Kind of hilarious, in waste of my tax money kind of way,” another Redditor commented sarcastically. (I’m not on X to find the original WH post) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5796 "2025-06-15T12:58:06Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Especially not in Vietnam or Afghanistan. Well, bonespurs saved the North Vietnamese and Trump wasn’t C-in-C for the Afghan withdrawal and the Deep State generals conspired against him when he was. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5797 "2025-06-15T13:03:33Z")
The predictably over-the-top Fox coverage was _very_ careful about avoiding sweeping camera shots that would have revealed the sparseness of the crowd, instead staying tight on the soldiers and the small areas of crowd congestion. It’s what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5798 "2025-06-15T13:04:25Z")
It’ll be 20 billion people packed shoulder to shoulder in a month. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5799 "2025-06-15T13:17:02Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > It’s what they do. I’m also hearing about right-wing posts and news reports that it was all the “No Kings” gatherings that were the duds attendance-wise. It’s actually amazing how much psychological projection is done by Trump and MAGA. It factors into almost everything they say about anything. (posts/reports referenced in videos online; I’m not looking at primary RW sources but the sources are mentioned) ---
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> [@FrenchDunadan](#): > > the soldiers were marching…well in a manner that seemed weird: no weapons, no close order (ranks and files were not straight), no order of height, weird and not in rhythm pace. Is it really that enlisted soldiers don’t do marching? One thing often observed is that other than among some honor guards and ceremonial units (and even there when compared to some other countries) the US Army’s marching style is highly “casual” to begin with. Literally mostly just walking straight in step, in formation. It’s like “look, for two+ centuries we’ve both crushed fancy, stylish, aristocratic ‘warrior caste’ enemies AND gotten bloodied good by ragtag irregulars, we’re not gonna prove anything by swinging and kicking and stomping like we’re the doggone Rockettes.” Another is that THIS particular shindig was slapped together in a rush to please 47 and Secretary Hogshead, and it’s not like the elite units are sitting around with nothing better to do. So some of these formations may be a case of they grabbed whoever could be grabbed to do this. The 420th Field Laundry Company is going to be dressed clean and fresh but their members probably last drilled for parade when they graduated training. ---
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> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I’m also hearing about right-wing posts and news reports that it was all the “No Kings” gatherings that were the duds attendance-wise. The local rag predicted 60, I rode by yesterday and it looked to be easily 3-400. Thousands in Modesto. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=286) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=288)