# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 290
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5842 "2025-06-16T02:34:25Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I heard on Meidas Touch that posts and videos are circulating on Russian social media mocking the failed parade. Hehe. Here you go. > > > Рустем Адагамов @adagamov ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5843 "2025-06-16T02:48:55Z")
The run-up to China’s parade to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II was actually pretty cool, too, for those of us living in Beijing. The soldiers involved rehearsed and the population didn’t get in the way of the practices. My point is China’s parade was planned well, rehearsed, and was not hijacked. The result was a rather impressive performance. I’m rather busy today, so I don’t know if I can give a run-down on the news of felon47 and his co-conspirators today. I will give you this nugget to gnaw on, though. [The troops the felon federalized and activated aren’t getting paid yet.](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/11/guard-soldiers-deployed-trumps-la-crackdown-arent-getting-paid-yet.html) > [@](#): > > The 4,000 California [National Guard](https://www.military.com/national-guard) soldiers who President Donald Trump surged into Los Angeles remain unpaid due to delays in issuing official activation orders, leaving compensation and benefits in limbo. > > According to more than a dozen Guardsmen across four units who spoke to [Military.com](http://Military.com), none has received formal activation orders, the critical paperwork that not only authorizes their duty status, but also unlocks [pay](https://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay), [Tricare](https://www.military.com/benefits/tricare) health benefits and eligibility for [Department of Veterans Affairs](https://www.military.com/benefits/veteran-benefits) services. Without those orders, troops remain in a legal and administrative limbo. > > Multiple defense officials with direct knowledge of the situation told [Military.com](http://military.com/) the chaotic and sudden activation of troops has effectively clogged up the flow of administrative work. The article goes onto say they’ll get the proper backpay later, but that’s not a great deal of help _now_. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5844 "2025-06-16T03:14:37Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Yup elect a clown, expect a circus. A very, very expensive circus. But…but…I’ve seen posts on social media that assured me that corporations like Oracle, Lockheed Martin, Coinbase, and many others paid for it all so taxpayers wouldn’t have to. And these corporations surely were just being patriotic and wouldn’t expect anything in return, right? Actually, this made me think about Trump auctioning off corporate sponsorship of federal monuments and buildings like they do for athletic stadiums and arenas. The Washington Monument–now brought to you by Amazon! The PragerU Smithsonian And, since irony no longer applies to this admin, gun companies can sponsor the Smith & Wesson Lincoln Memorial and the Ruger Eternal Flame in Arlington Cemetary (or maybe the Eternal Flame can be sponsored by Bic?). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5845 "2025-06-16T03:30:21Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Here you go. YES! That’s the one! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5846 "2025-06-16T03:58:44Z")
[Today I learned the National Anthem of the United States of America is, in fact, a bilingual song, and has been since _ **1945** _.](https://www.aol.com/sports/dodger-stadium-singer-confirms-she-220938026.html) I learned this fact from a protest agains the felon and his co-conspirators. (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > An interesting national anthem was performed at Dodger Stadium at Saturday — and not because the team wanted it. > > Rather than sing the traditional “The Star-Spangled Banner,” Vanessa Hernández, who performs under the name Nezza, sang **“El Pendón Estrellado,” the official Spanish version of the anthem commissioned by the U.S. government under Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1945.** [The felon has decided to prioritize.](https://www.aol.com/trump-directs-ice-expand-deportations-012125584.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — President [Donald Trump](https://apnews.com/hub/donald-trump) on Sunday directed federal immigration officials to prioritize deportations from Democratic-run cities, a move that comes after large [protests erupted in Los Angeles](https://apnews.com/article/insurrection-act-trump-troops-newsom-military-national-guard-a842f79e1c0e244039be274a6f266a7a) and other major cities against the Trump administration’s immigration policies. > > Trump in a social media posting called on [U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement](https://apnews.com/hub/us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement) officials “to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History.” > > He added that to reach the goal officials ”must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside.” [The felon gutted the office that works on preventing targeted violence.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-gutted-program-aimed-212130252.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The Trump administration gutted a program that aims to prevent targeted violence as part of its effort to downsize the federal government, a move that could come under fresh scrutiny after the deadly shooting of state lawmakers in Minnesota on Saturday. > > The Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships, part of the Department of Homeland Security, works to reduce violent extremism through intervention programs in schools, workplaces and government offices. > > William Braniff, a former director of the office who resigned in protest in March, said the office went from having 45 full-time staff and several dozen contract workers to just a handful of employees now. > > The Trump administration has prioritized combating illegal immigration while shrinking other DHS offices, a factor Braniff cited. “DHS is drastically reducing everything that is not related to border and immigration security,” he said. [The fraud’s appointee is also a fraud? Say it ain’t so!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-faa-pick-long-claimed-220218562.html) > [@](#): > > President [Donald Trump’s](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump) pick to lead the [Federal Aviation Administration](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/federal-aviation-administration) has long claimed to have a commercial pilot’s license – but new reports suggest otherwise. > > Bryan Bedford, the CEO of Republic Airways, was listed on the [airline’s](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/airlines)website as holding “commercial, multi-engine and instrument pilot ratings” until Thursday, but after his credentials came under question, the word “commercial,” was removed from the description on Friday,[Politico reported.](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/15/trumps-faa-pick-has-claimed-commercial-pilot-license-he-doesnt-have-00406090) > > Records obtained by Politico revealed that Bedford does not have a commercial pilot’s license registered with the FAA – though he has claimed to since at least 2010, [according to the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine.](https://web.archive.org/web/20101006135930/http://rjet.com/leadership/bryanbedford.html#) Turns out I did have some time for this. I forgot it’s Sunday back in Felonia, I mean the US so it must be a slow news day. Kind of like that slow march over the weekend. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5847 "2025-06-16T06:25:59Z")
The pretzel logic of his latest “truth” has got Trump so confused he doesn’t know which way is up. Even moreso than usual. His donors are screaming at him to stop taking their workers but his fans are out for blood. So, of course, we get this, which solves nothing. > [@](#): > > I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities… > > …and reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia. Which is it dumbass? Inner Cities or the Heartland? You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. You have to decide which group to piss off. Hope it makes your brain hurt. > > > Megan Messerly @meganmesserly ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5848 "2025-06-16T06:48:40Z")
Wait a moment. Why is Canada letting him into the country? He’s a convicted felon. Evidently, someone at the [Toronto Star](https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/donald-trump-is-a-convicted-felon-could-he-be-stopped-from-entering-canada-for-the/article_b2f0745d-3716-4646-826d-ef0aca923675.html) discusses that very question. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5849 "2025-06-16T06:59:49Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > He added that to reach the goal officials ”must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside.” Now I’m confused. I thought that all the illegals were in Texas and Florida and that that was why they needed to be herded on jets to send them up to the blue states as punishment for the liberals who live there. Is Trump trying to undo all of Abbot’s hard work? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5850 "2025-06-16T07:10:22Z")
See? This is what happens when you don’t know how to play multi-dimensional chess. The ~~horse apple~~ stable genius has a plan that’s far too strategic and tactical for the likes of you and me. You are correct that Abbot sent the people he calls “illegals” to the blue states. But you don’t realize _which_ “illegals” he sent there. Those working on farms were out there in the fields slaving away. Those working in hotels and motels were doing the dirty work there. What I’m getting at is they were employed to make ~~the lives of his donors~~ America great again. It’s those no goodnicks who entered the country legally and went to school and worked in technical fields that you have to worry about. What’s that? Those aren’t the ones who were put on the buses? Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5851 "2025-06-16T09:02:13Z")
Sorry about the multi-post. [This latest report](https://www.yahoo.com/news/openly-admitting-critics-rip-trump-065145080.html) calls for a close examination and excoriating commentary. > [@](#): > > Critics are calling out President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) for a divisive [Sunday night announcement](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-deportations-ice_n_684f7583e4b07f75743a4802) that law enforcement would target migrants in cities at “the core of the Democrat Power Center.” > > Trump [said on Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114690267066155731) that he was ordering U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to conduct “the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History.” > > He wrote that he was expanding operations in the nation’s biggest cities, including Los Angeles ― where he has already [sent the military](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/adam-schiff-trump-militarization-of-los-angeles-defended-alex-padilla_n_684f5a9ee4b03c462a051e45) to contend with [recurring protests](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pam-bondi-warns-of-more-arrests-in-california-amid-protests-against-immigration-raids_n_6849caf7e4b0f2259d6094c8) against his immigration policies ― as well as Chicago and New York. At one level, I suppose that _could_ just about _almost_ be justifiable. But let’s look at exactly what the felon said about his rationale for this move. > [@](#): > > “These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens,” Trump claimed. “These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities — And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them.” He’s hitting all the Big Bigot Bullshit points. “Use illegal aliens to expand voter base”? That’s a twofer. First off, aliens, undocumented or otherwise, cannot vote. Second, if those undocumented aliens happen to have a child in the United States, that child is, in fact and according to the constitution, a citizen of the United States. “Robbing good paying jobs”? Check. That’s a nonsense assertion. The migrants are not competeing with American citizens for good paying jobs. The migrants are, in fact, doing the 3D (dirty, dangerous, demanding) and I might add very low paying jobs which American citizens won’t even consider doing. “Robbing benefits”? Check. By the way, what benefits are these undocumented migrants stealing? It’s certainly not Social Security. It’s not any number of other government financial assistance either because _for the vast majority of those programs one must be legally in the United States or be a US citizen_. “Hate our country”? Check. Yet it is he who instigated an attack on the seat of one branch of our government. It is he who vowed to be a dictator. It is he who constantly, nay, continuously violates the constitution and other American laws. “There is something wrong with them.” Check. An accufession. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5852 "2025-06-16T09:14:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “Use illegal aliens to expand voter base”? That’s a twofer. First off, aliens, undocumented or otherwise, cannot vote. Second, if those undocumented aliens happen to have a child in the United States, that child is, in fact and according to the constitution, a citizen of the United States. It’s a threefer, actually; the idea that the Democrats are letting in illegal immigrants to vote for them is a longstanding right wing conspiracy theory. So he’s pandering to the conspiracy crowd with that on top of everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5853 "2025-06-16T10:27:48Z")
@Der_Trihs You are correct. It drives me around the bend when those magaflatearthers go on about _anchor babies_. Minors cannot sponsor someone into the country. So that’s some mighty poor prior planning when the pay-off is more than 20 years in the future and there’s nothing but heartache and abusive hard work in the meantime. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5854 "2025-06-16T11:12:17Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It seems to me that the people on Fox News lack substance. Not at all – technically, bullshit is a substance… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5855 "2025-06-16T12:07:33Z")
_Variety_ had a bit about that [Was Trump Being Trolled With Creedence’s ‘Fortunate Son’ at Parade?](https://variety.com/2025/music/columns/trump-fortunate-son-creedence-military-parade-draft-dodging-1236432479/) “The keepers of the parade doubled down on “Fortunate Son” as part of Saturday’s festivities. First, it was heard in an instrumental version as the soldiers marched, and later, a vocal rendition was heard coming from the stage in video shot at the landing spot for the event.” and “But as for why Trump’s circle would deliberately want to use even a cover version of a song that virtually shouts, “Hey, remember a long time ago when there were people saying the president was a privileged chicken? Can we start that up again?”…” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5856 "2025-06-16T12:35:22Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > It was played at a campaign rally for [Donald Trump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump). Fogerty found this to be “confounding”[[19]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortunate_Son#cite_note-19) and later issued a [cease and desist order](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cease_and_desist_order), noting that Trump obtained a [draft deferment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_evasion).[[20]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortunate_Son#cite_note-20) Honestly, if I were Fogerty I’d want it played by Trump at every opportunity for exactly that reason (albeit with royalties duly paid). > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s also potentially dangerous; famously, you can cause bridge collapses that way. The Albert Bridge still has a sign on it. The nearby Chelsea Barracks closed in 2008, but I couldn’t tell you when troops actually last marched over it. [![](https://d2kdkfqxnvpuu9.cloudfront.net/images/giant/68871.jpg) ](https://d2kdkfqxnvpuu9.cloudfront.net/images/giant/68871.jpg) > [@Railer13](#): > > One of the idiotic comments by a trumper was that since this number represented less than 1% of the population, the protests were a failure. “More than 5 million” would be roughly 1.5% of the US population. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5857 "2025-06-16T12:55:22Z")
And for every person at the demonstrations, I would WAG that there was at least one who, for fear of ICE or other reasons — I had recent back surgery and can’t stand for any length of time — steered clear. I don’t know whether that makes the 3.5% which theoretically dooms a regime (according to posts on these threads), but it probably comes close. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5858 "2025-06-16T13:29:35Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I don’t know whether that makes the 3.5% which theoretically dooms a regime (according to posts on these threads), but it probably comes close. The 3.5% rule of thumb applies to sustained opposition, which cuts both ways (on the one hand, people might show up for a protest and then settle back into apathy; on the other hand, people who don’t/can’t show up for a protest might undermine the regime in many other ways). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5859 "2025-06-16T14:00:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities > [@Monty](#): > > An accufession. ✔ Sick of mind _(sick IN mind?)_ ✔ Hate our country ✔ Want to destroy inner cities Yup, that’s describes the regime pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5860 "2025-06-16T14:19:11Z")
This new “strategy” of focusing his Lidless Eye on Democratic cities seems to be a reaction to his other pivot, away from agriculture and hospitality. Somebody must have pointed out that if he’s not rounding up lettuce pickers and hotel maids, where is he going to get the massive numbers he promised? Uh…Chicago? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5861 "2025-06-16T15:26:58Z")
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