# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 292
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5882 "2025-06-17T00:34:17Z")
Besides the low chance that he’s outright lying, the Marianas Islands, Guam and American Samoa all can get the “made in America” claim. Puerto Rico too, but do you know how many millions every citizen there gets tax-free every year? $45 a month is like some 2-4 year (or whenever he leaves office ) monthly “plan” where you get the phone along with the plan and I assume the USA has now gone GSM with sim-cards? 10 years ago the only choice there was only very expensive T-Mob and AT&T when I visited for a few months with my Socialist Euro phone. I don’t need much data yet for about $12 a month I’d get 15Mb on a phone I bought. I’ve bought all my phones outright. And while there is no way I would trust any trump phoney, I assume the service is piggy-backing on a larger company which is common here? ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5883 "2025-06-17T01:01:25Z")
OMG. **$499** for the phone _plus_ a monthly fee of $47.45. (and I meant about $12 for 15 **Gb** of data, Maybe 20. I usually only need less than 5 so pay about $6 a month - even less if I paid for a year yet this gives me flexibility to up it to whatever i might need). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5884 "2025-06-17T01:06:51Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > no, it is $47.45 That’s even more obvious. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5885 "2025-06-17T01:10:13Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > **$499** for the phone Our last Pixel phones were less than half that amount. No, they weren’t made in the good ole USA, but in this case, that is most likely a bonus. I would shy away from a made in the US phone. Why would I trust a country that doesn’t make electronics like this? BTW, I searched or “made in US cellphones” and I found one - the Purism Librem 5. Go check it out and let me know if you would ever buy that $1600 phone. Me? HELL NO! ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5886 "2025-06-17T01:34:30Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Purism Librem 5. Go check it out A lot of that is just scale (how many sold) yet I was ready to “buy into” the idea that this was an exercise in making a completely USA (50 states + PR) electronic device, yet in the wiki it shows a Dutch CPU and and Samsung and the other companies that makes much of the tech: cameras, flash memory, RAM and display are all foreign. I do like that it runs native Linux (not Android or iOS) yet couldn’t help but imagine a downsized Raspberry Pi Zero (British & Sony) for about $500. Though admittedly, I’ve never made a phone with cell data out of a Pi yet that couldn’t add too much more to the cost. Yet the sad fact is, to make new top of the line cell phones, you’ve got to rely on very low paid Asian labor. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5887 "2025-06-17T01:35:50Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > USA (50 states + PR) You gots something agin’ DC, Guam, American Samoa, Northern Mariana Islands, and American Virgin Islands? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5888 "2025-06-17T01:49:34Z")
I recall at least with the Marianas, the republicans somehow changed their status so they could be considered “American Made” and last I looked, a Hanes-beefy-T truly made in America with American combed cotton was much better than what you can buy at Wal-mart. And these places have very little tech capacity unless you’re willing to invest and pay them a decent wage. Yet that notion and unions are now positively un-American. > **[Look for the Union Label 1981 classic ad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO7VUklDlQw%2F)** > > one of the classic television commercials from the early 1980s featuring members of the International Ladies Garment Workers Union ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5889 "2025-06-17T02:01:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And besides the obvious grift and self-aggrandizement… This is the bottom line. The idea is to get the dweebs and suckers to buy these phones because they are associated with the Trump name, and sign up for phone service. I’m sure there will be all kinds of add-ons, surcharges, usage fees, and other things to drive the monthly bill way up. There will probably be some kind of unbreakable contract so you can never cancel. Of course, the phones will not be refundable, so who cares about the quality of the instrument? The main thing is to get these people to commit to forking over monthly payments _forever_. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5890 "2025-06-17T02:07:48Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I assume the USA has now gone GSM with sim-cards? CDMA still carries about half the market, and it seems like they have really good coverage in some areas where there is little-to-no GSM. Most phones and tablets have a transceiver that can be configured for either protocol, but some carriers put in a worm that all but prevents a buyer from being able to reconfigure to the alternative protocol, or to work with a different carrier.        As to SIM cards, not so much. In many cases, one installs an “eSIM”, which is downloaded into the phone (no waiting for a card to be delivered, but also less data portability). The US phone market is kind of fucked up and will remain so until some sort of social sea change occurs, and the corporations that control the market will fight change tooth and nail. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5891 "2025-06-17T02:26:52Z")
How come the US market can still get away with that? I know Singapore moved away from CDMA in the early 2000s, and has full number portability between all carriers. Nee Zealand you also have full number portability amongst all carriers ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5892 "2025-06-17T02:43:47Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > How come the US market can still get away with that? The market is basically controlled by the businesses that play in it. This is largely true of most of the markets in the US. Americans have free choice – among the things that business decides should be available and desirable. It is a free market in the sense that business is free to decide what Americans can and want to have. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5893 "2025-06-17T02:50:15Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > Anyone who can’t grasp the difference between a noun (“Democrat”) and an adjective (“Democratic”) reveals himself to be an idjit unsuited for public office. > > While I don’t disagree that 47 is an idjit unsuited for public office, in this case the word use is quite deliberate… Oh, I’ve known that for years. It still reveals him (and any others who resort to such childish, insulting wordplay) to be an idjit. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5894 "2025-06-17T06:42:42Z")
[For the first ever, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has not invited a sitting United States president to the annual convention.](https://www.aol.com/naacp-wont-invite-trump-national-200951985.html) > [@](#): > > The NAACP announced Monday the group will not invite President [Donald Trump](https://apnews.com/hub/donald-trump) to its national convention next month in Charlotte, North Carolina, the first time the prominent civil rights organization has opted to exclude a sitting president in its 116-year history. > > NAACP President Derrick Johnson announced the move at an afternoon press conference, accusing Trump of working against its mission. > > “This has nothing to do with political party,” Johnson said in a statement. “Our mission is to advance civil rights, and the current president has made clear that his mission is to eliminate civil rights.” Well said, President Johnson. Well said, indeed. [The Big Bullshit Bill is getting some trimming in the Senate.](https://www.aol.com/deeper-medicaid-cuts-limited-tax-215109093.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON – Senate Republicans are proposing deeper cuts to Medicaid than the House of Representatives’ recently passed budget bill to help pay for President [Donald Trump’s](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) major tax cuts under a budget plan released on June 16. > > The measure released by GOP leaders serving on a key panel responsible for writing the nation’s tax laws also seeks a more limited tax cut for tips and overtime than the House, changing one of Trump’s most recognizable 2024 campaign promises. [So much winning!](https://www.aol.com/judge-rules-nih-grant-cuts-220420532.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge ruled Monday it was illegal for the Trump administration to cancel several hundred [research grants](https://apnews.com/article/nih-funding-trump-dei-research-094ed2abe5ba529cdb74f7e0b429c4f3), adding that the cuts raise serious questions about racial discrimination. > > U.S. District Judge William Young in Massachusetts said the administration’s process was “arbitrary and capricious” and that it did not follow long-held government rules and standards when it abruptly canceled grants deemed to focus on gender identity or diversity, equity and inclusion. > > In a hearing Monday on two cases calling for the grants to be restored, the judge pushed government lawyers to offer a formal definition of DEI, questioning how grants could be canceled for that reason when some were designed to study health disparities as Congress had directed. > > Young, an appointee of Republican President Ronald Reagan, went on to address what he called “a darker aspect” to the cases, calling it “palpably clear” that what was behind the government actions was “racial discrimination and discrimination against America’s LGBTQ community.” > > After 40 years on the bench, “I’ve never seen government racial discrimination like this,” Young added. He ended Monday’s hearing saying, “Have we no shame.” [Too bad the judge didn’t quote Joseph N. Walch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7x8RkdG6I0). [This goes here because the felon’s flock of felons just increased by one convict.](https://www.aol.com/jury-finds-mypillow-founder-defamed-224647502.html) > [@](#): > > DENVER (AP) — A federal jury in Colorado on Monday found that one of the nation’s most prominent election conspiracy theorists, MyPillow founder [Mike Lindell](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-technology-minnesota-colorado-voting-9a3cc1facdf9c005809ad61062acacaa), defamed a former employee for a leading voting equipment company after the 2020 presidential election. > > The jury found that two of Lindell’s statements about Eric Coomer, the former security and product strategy director at Denver-based [Dominion Voting Systems](https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-dominion-defamation-voting-machines-arizona-921a9a45f3622c54ba62f2f642b6c38d), including calling him a traitor, were defamatory. It ordered Lindell and his online media platform, formerly known as Frankspeech, to pay Coomer $2.3 million in damages, far less than the $62.7 million Coomer had asked for to help send a message to discourage attacks on election workers. > > “This is hurting democracy. This is misinformation. It’s not been vetted and it needs to stop,” Charles Cain, one of Coomer’s attorneys, told jurors in closing arguments Friday. Read the whole article. It’s really great news. [Law firms that rolled over for the felon are having issues now.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maddow-blog-law-firms-appeased-133809152.html) > [@](#): > > After Donald Trump launched an unprecedented offensive against prominent law firms, four of the firms chose to fight back against the president’s authoritarian-style assault. Given that the quartet filed separate lawsuits against the White House, and [they’re undefeated in court so far](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-strikes-trump-executive-order-targeting-law-firm-extending-losin-rcna209344), it appears they made the smart decision. > > As [The New York Times recently noted](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/27/us/politics/trump-law-firms-wilmerhale.html) after one of the four firms’ court victories, “The ruling seemed to validate the strategy, embraced by a minority of firms, of fighting the administration instead of caving to a pressure campaign and making deals with Mr. Trump to avoid persecution.” > > For the rest of the targeted firms, the consequences of their misjudgment have gone from bad to worse. [Reuters reported](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/seven-partners-depart-law-firm-willkie-farr-join-cooley-after-trump-deal-2025-06-13/): > > > A group of seven partners is leaving Willkie Farr & Gallagher, which struck a deal with U.S. President Donald Trump in April to avert an executive order targeting its business, to join Cooley, which is representing one of the law firms fighting Trump’s orders. … There was widespread dissatisfaction in Willkie’s San Francisco office over the firm’s agreement with the administration, according to a source familiar with the matter who said as many as 15 associates have expressed interest in leaving. > > Other firms that chose a Trump appeasement strategy are facing similar problems: Damian Williams, the former top federal prosecutor in Manhattan, [recently announced](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/06/law-firms-trump-damian-williams-jenner-block/) that he’s leaving Paul Weiss (one of the firms that struck a deal with the White House) and joining Jenner & Block (one of the firms that fought back). No pithy title for this next one, just the article’s actual title. [Spanish-language journalist to be turned over to Ice after protest arrest](https://www.yahoo.com/news/spanish-language-journalist-turned-over-214214690.html) > [@](#): > > Mario Guevara, a prominent Spanish-language journalist in metro Atlanta who frequently covers immigration and customs enforcement raids, will be turned over to Ice detention after being arrested by local police while covering the “No Kings” protests. > > Guevara, 47, was born in El Salvador and has been in the United States for more than 20 years. He [recorded his own arrest](https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=525620477245014) on Saturday during a raucous street protest in the Embry Hills area of north DeKalb county, an Atlanta suburban neighborhood with a large Latino population. The protest ended with riot police throwing teargas and marching protesters down the street after declaring an unlawful assembly. > > About 35 minutes into the video Guevara was live-streaming on Facebook to more than 1 million people, he can be first seen on the sidewalk, then backing away from a police officer approaching him. As he backed into the street, two other police officers immediately arrested him. & > [@](#): > > As a journalist with Diario CoLatino in El Salvador, he fled the country in 2004 one step ahead of threats from leftwing paramilitary groups. It took him seven years to get his first asylum hearing before a judge, the journalist [told](https://laopinion.com/2012/07/03/reportero-hispano-atrapado-en-el-sistema-migratorio/) Spanish-language wire service Agencia EFE in the Los Angeles-based publication La Opinión in 2012. He described the arrest of his wife after an error in the immigration system. “The hardest part for me was seeing my three children cry as she was taken away, and me being powerless to give them the comfort and protection they need,” he said in Spanish in the interview. > > Guevara has worked for Spanish-language media such as Atlanta Latino and Mundo Hispanico in metro Atlanta since, reporting on criminal justice issues. Guevara’s reporting has won awards, including an Emmy. His reporting has uncovered corruption at the Honduran consulate in Georgia and documented the effect of immigration enforcement around Atlanta. > > He founded MGNews in June last year, focusing on immigration enforcement, and quickly built a sizable following. At the time of his arrest Saturday, Guevara was live-streaming on Facebook to more than 1 million viewers, outdrawing CNN and Fox News combined on a Saturday afternoon. [Here’s an interesting take on the Pretty Poor Parade.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-one-veterans-why-soldiers-204757466.html) (The \*\*bolding is mine.) > [@](#): > > This weekend, there was a [military parade](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-defends-high-cost-military-parade-peanuts-rcna204581) in DC to mark Flag Day and the 250th anniversary of the US Army — and definitely, totally not for President Donald Trump’s birthday. > > If you’ve seen any clips going viral from the event, you’ve likely noticed that many soldiers were marching out of sync with one another, or generally appeared to have pretty low energy, certainly not what one imagines when they conjure the image of a strongman military parade. It led to some speculating that the marching (or lack thereof) may have been a form of political protest. > > So, I spoke to Charlotte Clymer, an activist and DC-based writer, who covered the topic in her [Substack](https://charlotteclymer.substack.com/p/the-worst-military-parade-ive-ever) “Charlotte’s Web Thoughts.” She served in the US Army from 2005–2012, including three years in the 3rd US Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard). Of her time in the Old Guard, she said, “I probably did hundreds of parades and various ceremonies, to say nothing of all the funerals that we carried out in Arlington National Cemetery. Beyond the actual missions, we were doing training all the time. We’re talking 1000s of hours of drilling, marching, and various preparations for those ceremonies.”’ & > [@](#): > > Charlotte doesn’t buy that some of the soldiers simply were from units that weren’t used to marching. “Every soldier learns how to march during basic training, and it’s not hard. It’s remarkably easy,” she continued, noting that the soldiers will have had a dress rehearsal a few days prior. > > As for why we saw what we saw, she said, "I don’t think this was a protest against Trump, or anything adjacent to anti-fascism or concern with how the government is operating. I don’t think it had anything to do with that. **I think this is just because they were treated very poorly and they didn’t care. I think the soldiers who were misstepping during the parade — there were a lot of them — were just tired, annoyed, probably to some extent angry, and they just did not give enough of a shit to march to a high standard of excellence."** ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5895 "2025-06-17T06:50:52Z")
> [@](#): > > The NAACP announced Monday the group will not invite President Donald Trump to its national convention next month in Charlotte, North Carolina, the first time the prominent civil rights organization has opted to exclude a sitting president in its 116-year history. Trump: A big beautiful example of the real aunty WHITE racism in America, POWER full. NAACP: Orange isn’t a race. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5896 "2025-06-17T06:58:17Z")
Aunty? ---
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‘Speelcheck is WOKE!!!’ ~ DJT ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5898 "2025-06-17T07:04:29Z")
Thanks for that, @Monty , especially for the remarks from Charlotte Clymer. They are quite interesting and insightful, especially about the precision that the US Army can demonstrate when necessary, and the lackadaisical attitude displayed by the troops in Trump’s parade. Do we have any indication of how Trump feels about his parade’s poor attendance and imprecision in marching? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5899 "2025-06-17T07:32:53Z")
The soldiers marching in the Big Beautiful Perade brought tears to my eyes, I was laughing so hard. To any military persons reading this, I feel for you, and I hope you had plenty of beers afterwards to numb the stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5900 "2025-06-17T08:16:50Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Thanks for that, @Monty , especially for the remarks from Charlotte Clymer. They are quite interesting and insightful, especially about the precision that the US Army can demonstrate when necessary, and the lackadaisical attitude displayed by the troops in Trump’s parade. I was very surprised to see the caliber of marching. The majority of my time in service was Navy, but I did start out Army. As one would imagine, marching was a big thing and, yes, I lost count of the times I was basically “sleep marching” along with so many others. I could see route march if the unit is along a stretch of the parade route that’s not designated for the show, but in front of the reviewing stand? That’s a definite no-go. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5901 "2025-06-17T08:31:22Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Do we have any indication of how Trump feels about his parade’s poor attendance and imprecision in marching? Well, we can be sure that he doesn’t believe what his own lying eyes saw. Here’s a picture from the DOD that I’m sure he does believe. Yep. People watching the parade from all the way over by the Washington Monument. What a view they had! [![](https://i.imgur.com/KFuZ1MX.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/KFuZ1MX.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=291) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=293)